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unnamednewbie13
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Better than Blair Witch cam.

If that's your only complaint, I'd say Lord of the Rings still wins. The moving camera was done for mood.
Cybargs
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HaiBai wrote:

not sure if serious...
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This was my favorite book growing up, still one of my favorites to this day. Can't wait to see how this turns out.
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Dilbert_X
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I'm re-reading it just so I can say how disappointed I am about all the differences between the book and the film.
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unnamednewbie13
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If it's going to be a two parter, I'm fairly sure it'll be spot-on within reason.
RTHKI
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why would anyone skip the songs in lotr. its not like family guy where they are always shit (except the fcc)
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unnamednewbie13
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Part of the fun I had in reading the books was imagining what the tune would be behind some of those songs. It was a treat if they were fairly close to what was used on one of the movies once I got around to watching them.
AussieReaper
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RTHKI wrote:

why would anyone skip the songs in lotr. its not like family guy where they are always shit (except the fcc)
Chip the glasses and crack the plates!
Blunt the knives and bend the forks!

Didn't really add much to the story...
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"coz you a far cry from acclaim nigga ubisoft"
RTHKI
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just like your posts in dst dont add much to the discussion
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PrivateVendetta
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tbh i tend to skip most songs that are written out in books.
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Jay
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PrivateVendetta wrote:

tbh i tend to skip most songs that are written out in books.
I do too. Bad poetry is bad.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Spoiler alert: Bilbo dies.
Beorn kills Dumbledore.
Nori is Kesyer Soze.
AussieReaper
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Doctor Strangelove wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Spoiler alert: Bilbo dies.
Beorn kills Dumbledore.
Nori is Kesyer Soze.
Middle Earth was Earth all along!
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"coz you a far cry from acclaim nigga ubisoft"
DrunkFace
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AussieReaper wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:


Beorn kills Dumbledore.
Nori is Kesyer Soze.
Middle Earth was Earth all along!
But just the middle part?
Ty
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Two days before the premier, word is that An Unexpected Journey has just been completed. Wellington is going a bit crazy.  Like, ashamedly so. Apparently people working at the tourism information places have donned shire clothes and Hobbit feet. There's also a big event at Waitangi Park with tents and artisans and a bunch of hokum Middle Earthy schite. All in good fun I suppose but seriously, with all that's going on plus that Air New Zealand safety video that went viral a while back it's getting a bit over-saturated.

The Embassy Theatre is about 100m from my front door, I'll be sure to go down and have a look on Wednesday. They have it all made up pretty like they did for the premiers of the Rings movies.
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My favourite is still the massive Fell Best they had perched on top of the building for Return of the King.

PJ released what I'm guessing is his final video diary too.

[Blinking eyes thing]
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Jay
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Ilocano wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Sisco wrote:

So, a whole film about what I found a major annoyance in LOTR? Pass.
I'm assuming you never read the book...
Yeah, looks like not many people here have read the book.

Lack of action?  Hello?  One big ass near invulnerable dragon?  Armies of man, elf, dwarf, and orc clashing?  First half is slow and "character development", though.  Besides, for the most part, there is only one hobbit.  And Bilbo wasn't the emo that Frodo was.


Edit: Not orcs, but rather goblin/wargs.
And trolls!
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unnamednewbie13
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There is no way you'd think the Hobbit had no action in it if you read it. If anything, it was a smoother trip than the following three books. More action, less talk.

Also, as to orcs vs goblins:

"In J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy writings, Orcs or Orks are a race of creatures who are used as soldiers and henchmen by both the greater and lesser villains of The Silmarillion and The Lord of the Rings — Morgoth, Sauron and Saruman. The Orcs also work independently as the common antagonists in The Hobbit, though in that work they are more often called Goblins."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_(Middle-earth)

Same thing.
unnamednewbie13
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Here ya go, guys:

Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

There is no way you'd think the Hobbit had no action in it if you read it. If anything, it was a smoother trip than the following three books. More action, less talk.

Also, as to orcs vs goblins:

"In J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy writings, Orcs or Orks are a race of creatures who are used as soldiers and henchmen by both the greater and lesser villains of The Silmarillion and The Lord of the Rings — Morgoth, Sauron and Saruman. The Orcs also work independently as the common antagonists in The Hobbit, though in that work they are more often called Goblins."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_(Middle-earth)

Same thing.
I can't imagine why they split it in half though. The first half of the story is way less interesting and action packed than the second half. I suppose they'll leave off after Bilbo meets Gollum.
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-Frederick Bastiat
unnamednewbie13
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I don't really know where they're going to end part 1 and begin part 2, though. For all I know, part 1 could end at the eagles.
Spearhead
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Lincoln was better
unnamednewbie13
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Spearhead wrote:

Lincoln was better
Well guess what I'm going to wait to see on DVD rather than theaters? That's right, Lincoln.
Ilocano
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

There is no way you'd think the Hobbit had no action in it if you read it. If anything, it was a smoother trip than the following three books. More action, less talk.

Also, as to orcs vs goblins:

"In J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy writings, Orcs or Orks are a race of creatures who are used as soldiers and henchmen by both the greater and lesser villains of The Silmarillion and The Lord of the Rings — Morgoth, Sauron and Saruman. The Orcs also work independently as the common antagonists in The Hobbit, though in that work they are more often called Goblins."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_(Middle-earth)

Same thing.
That's the simplified explanation. 

I prefer this:
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Orcs
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Goblins

"Unlike most orc races, Goblins are capable of governing themselves as they are often lead by etheir a chieften or a king. The government is an absolute monarchy. The goblin king is often the supreme ruler of the entire goblin race, with the chieftens being below his power. Goblins can also be able to see in total darkness, enabling them to make their homes in deep underground tunnels. They can also crawl and climb with ease with the help of their segmented spiked armor, another vital skill for any creature dwelling in the cave networks. It also appears that goblins are very capable of rearing and training animals as beasts of war and burden."
unnamednewbie13
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Not really. There are two sides to the debate, and while "goblins = orcs" is the stronger position, the wikia you pointed to apparently favors the underdog.

A lot in it seems to be fan canon, with the it referencing things like LotR-related video games. As much as I like Battle for Middle Earth II, I'm not going to let it rule what I know of the book series. More of the misunderstanding comes from the differences between the Hobbit and the rest of the series. Tolkien used the two terms interchangeably, but the Hobbit could be misinterpreted by a reader who would decide that orcs are a goblin subrace, which would invalidate comments throughout the rest of his works. A good in-character explanation would be to embrace the different names from different cultures for the race. A good out-of-character explanation would be that Tolkien wanted to distance himself from traditional names for fantastical creatures where he reasonably could.


Also read the Silmarillion.
Jaekus
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I've been under a rock, is this about to start screening?

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