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presidentsheep wrote:

Jay wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

Was a member for 2 years, don't agree with what they do anymore really. Assholes still send me letters though.

Meat is meat. Does it matter if I want to eat calves liver or calf brain or just a straight up veal chop? No. It all comes from the same place.

By the same token, does it matter if my beef is grass fed or raised in a pen on corn? No. That animal would not exist without the purpose of one day turning into a side of beef. It knows no other existance except the existance it lives. If it's born in a pen, raised in a pen, and dies in a slaughterhouse it doesn't dream of living in a field and lazing in the sun. It has no concept of a life like that. Same goes for caged vs uncaged chickens. Free range chickens are not necessarily happier than caged chickens. You can't project your own human emotions (in this instance, how you would feel if caged) onto animals. It doesn't work.

Could apply that same logic to torturing my pets or keeping slaves.

presidentsheep wrote:

Jay wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

Could apply that same logic to torturing my pets or keeping slaves.

Except a slave does have a concept of living free.

And I don't agree with torturing pets because you have a responsibility for their care. When you have a pet you've taken on the maternal or paternal role in its life.

In the same way it doesn't really matter how you die, it doesn't really matter how your food lived.

So you're telling me you would prefer to watch a family member die a painful drawn out death rather than pass away peacefully in their sleep??

Jay wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

Could apply that same logic to torturing my pets or keeping slaves.

Was just about to say that. The post is so laughably wrong it isn't even funny.

Yeah?

Caged chickens dream of running free? Prove it.

Corn fed penned cattle dream of eating grass and lazing in the sun? Prove it.

jord wrote:

Jay wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

I honestly don't think Diet has anything to do with it, I think it's so much more that Kids Just don't play outside anymore.

Yeah, this is pretty much it. When was the last time you saw a group of kids out in the street playing baseball or something? It just doesn't happen anymore. If kids do anything for social interaction it's going over each others houses and sitting on the couch or in front of the computer together. This is definitely one aspect of technological advancement that I think sucks.

There are kids outside my house playing curby and football all day and its fucking annoying. I'm tied between buying them a console or popping their ball. Fuckin noise.

Can't wait till all kids have consoles and stay indoors. Going to be sweet.

nukchebi0 wrote:

Jay wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

So you're telling me you would prefer to watch a family member die a painful drawn out death rather than pass away peacefully in their sleep??

I'm saying that it doesn't much matter to that family member how he goes. Once he's dead, he's dead, and how he got there is irrelevant. It's not like he's taking the pain with him when he goes. It would only have an impact on me if I had an emotional investment in him. I don't have an emotional investment in how my food lived.

Do you have an emotional investment in the suffering of people in Africa, either?

Jay wrote:

tuckergustav wrote:

OK folks...if you want to have a conversation about the emotional capabilities of animals vs. humans please take it to it's own thread.  Any further off topic posts will be deleted.

It really is an interesting topic...so I don't want to delete what is there so far...just discontinue it in this thread. Thanks

Why be a thread nazi? The OP was limited in scope. Ohnoes, government is controlling the diet of people in one school in Chicago. We're all gonna die! This topic is better/more interesting. Why try to keep a thread tied down to its OP? Stifles the natural progression of conversation and is boring as hell. Unless you want threads with four posts in them, let it go.

Jay wrote:

tuckergustav wrote:

OK folks...if you want to have a conversation about the emotional capabilities of animals vs. humans please take it to it's own thread.  Any further off topic posts will be deleted.

It really is an interesting topic...so I don't want to delete what is there so far...just discontinue it in this thread. Thanks

Why be a thread nazi? The OP was limited in scope. Ohnoes, government is controlling the diet of people in one school in Chicago. We're all gonna die! This topic is better/more interesting. Why try to keep a thread tied down to its OP? Stifles the natural progression of conversation and is boring as hell. Unless you want threads with four posts in them, let it go.

Last edited by Spark (2011-04-12 20:39:29)

Jay wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

Jay wrote:

I hate health food schmucks. Who the hell wants to eat grilled chicken and steamed asparagus every day? I'd rather knock the two years or so off my life that my diet costs me than dread meal time. What do I gain from those two extra years? Extra time in a diaper? No thanks. I'd rather enjoy life.

uhh, you realize healthy good tastes good too, right?

there's a tradeoff when you talk about eating.

you can eat something that tastes good and is healthy, or you can eat something that tastes great and isn't healthy.

is that sacrifice in health worth the taste?  not for me.  it's not like you have to eat disgusting stuff just to be healthy. 

sometimes it's a simple decision of wheat bread versus white bread.  sure, you can argue white bread tastes a little better.  but the health you gain from eating the wheat bread over the white bread makes the wheat bread worth it.

FYI, you're example is stupid.  eating badly isn't going to take off two years from the end of your life.  it'll take off two years from the current state of your life.  you're going to be sitting in that diaper just as long as the person who ate healthy their whole life; it's just that you'll be in your diaper sooner

I really don't care what you have to say on the topic. Come back and talk after you aren't stuck eating whatever your mom plops down on a plate for you.