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12-Year-Old Genius Expands Einstein's Theory of Relativity, Thinks He Can Prove It Wrong

Could Einstein's Theory of Relativity be a few mathematical equations away from being disproved?  Jacob Barnett of Hamilton County, Ind., who is just weeks shy of his 13th birthday, thinks so. And, he's got the solutions to prove it....

Barnett's parents knew that there was something different with their son when he didn't speak until the age of two. He was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, a mild form of autism, so they thought he might have problems in school. Instead, they were astounded when he started solving 5,000 piece puzzles by the age of 3. The 12-year-old taught himself calculus, algebra and geometry in two weeks, and can solve up to 200 numbers of Pi. He left high school at the ripe old age of eight and has been attending college-level advanced astrophysics classes ever since.


Amazing stuff, really.  I wonder if we will eventually induce or create asperger-type cognitive disorders to create socially inept mathematical/scientific geniuses on our way to a better understanding of the universe and all it encompasses.
Mekstizzle
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Fucking Integration. When does he get to disproving Einstein?

Aha, here you go. Not that I understand most of this but:

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2011-03-28 14:02:09)

pirana6
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Hey I can do that math! Granted I'm a decade older than him...


Is this considered a type of savant? Or does one need to have full-on down syndrome for that to be true?

In all honesty he seems fairly normal for a 13 year old. My brother has been suspected of having Asperger's and he and this kid don't seem much a like at all.
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I feel like such a waste of cells when I see a 12 year old do something this intelligent and I struggle with basic trigonometry. I didn't understand anything he said.
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I hope he succeeds, would make things more confusing and interesting. Thought relativity didn't quite fit right in some areas, hence the need for a TOE?
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Mekstizzle wrote:

Fucking Integration. When does he get to disproving Einstein?

Aha, here you go. Not that I understand most of this but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNypTxvOxxQ
He says that because Light travels at a constant but moves from left to right it must be manipulated by an outside force that travels at a faster rate. He then states it would be ".9 times faster than light" which would actually make it slower than light. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant "1.9 times". 

He's good at math but I don't know if he's ready to challenge established theories like that. He'll be a great physicist but he's still just a kid and he's biting off a bit more than he can chew at this point.

Anyone remember that one genius who said he had a mathematical theorem to prove god? Still haven't seen his work.
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Asperger's....   

I have a friend with that.  He's a good guy, but he's annoying as hell sometimes.
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ghettoperson wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

I feel like such a waste of cells when I see a 12 year old do something this intelligent and I struggle with basic trigonometry. I didn't understand anything he said.
Your lack of ability to perform basic trig is only one of the many reasons as to why you're a waste of cells.
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I have often felt that Einstein's Theory is wrong. Instinctively. The math is way beyond me though.
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Blue Herring wrote:

He says that because Light travels at a constant but moves from left to right it must be manipulated by an outside force that travels at a faster rate. He then states it would be ".9 times faster than light" which would actually make it slower than light. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant "1.9 times". 

He's good at math but I don't know if he's ready to challenge established theories like that. He'll be a great physicist but he's still just a kid and he's biting off a bit more than he can chew at this point.

Anyone remember that one genius who said he had a mathematical theorem to prove god? Still haven't seen his work.
Pretty much, beyond that I tend to hear of child geniuses every once in a while but 10-20 years later they all seem to disappear from the radar. Granted, they'll usually end up being extroardinary scientists but not living up to what I would consider a true genius. Einstein was really one of a kind, I think he'd only be rivalled by someone like Archimedes.

Reminds me of that guy Chris Langan if anything;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan

Last edited by Shocking (2011-03-28 17:00:49)

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Blue Herring wrote:

Anyone remember that one genius who said he had a mathematical theorem to prove god? Still haven't seen his work.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=243919
Jay
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Macbeth wrote:

Blue Herring wrote:

Anyone remember that one genius who said he had a mathematical theorem to prove god? Still haven't seen his work.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=243919
That was the most retarded post I've witness on the interwebs. Thanks, I needed a laugh tonight


Edit - for those afraid of numbers, it was the mathematical equivalent to the always popular 'What does salt taste like?' question.

Last edited by Jay (2011-03-28 17:22:16)

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Macbeth wrote:

Blue Herring wrote:

Anyone remember that one genius who said he had a mathematical theorem to prove god? Still haven't seen his work.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=243919
what the fuck did I just read?

it doesn't make the least bit of sense, it's like he copy pasted a couple limiting functions formulas from a 1st year college math book and did everything WRONG - didn't even get infinity right.

some people just shouldnt bother with math, jezus
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The kid is horribly wrong, but you know what? Good on him for thinking about it. This is how you learn.

PS. Teaching yourself calculus is not that unusual.

Last edited by Spark (2011-03-28 18:06:21)

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Blue Herring wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Fucking Integration. When does he get to disproving Einstein?

Aha, here you go. Not that I understand most of this but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNypTxvOxxQ
He says that because Light travels at a constant but moves from left to right it must be manipulated by an outside force that travels at a faster rate. He then states it would be ".9 times faster than light" which would actually make it slower than light. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant "1.9 times". 

He's good at math but I don't know if he's ready to challenge established theories like that. He'll be a great physicist but he's still just a kid and he's biting off a bit more than he can chew at this point.

Anyone remember that one genius who said he had a mathematical theorem to prove god? Still haven't seen his work.
most kids that smart burn out. i remember reading a story about some 13 year old in MIT.
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Blue Herring wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Fucking Integration. When does he get to disproving Einstein?

Aha, here you go. Not that I understand most of this but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNypTxvOxxQ
He says that because Light travels at a constant but moves from left to right it must be manipulated by an outside force that travels at a faster rate. He then states it would be ".9 times faster than light" which would actually make it slower than light. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant "1.9 times". 

He's good at math but I don't know if he's ready to challenge established theories like that. He'll be a great physicist but he's still just a kid and he's biting off a bit more than he can chew at this point.

Anyone remember that one genius who said he had a mathematical theorem to prove god? Still haven't seen his work.
I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Let him try; even if he doesn't disprove it, he may discover something else heretofore unknown.

Cybargs wrote:

most kids that smart burn out. i remember reading a story about some 13 year old in MIT.
"Real Genius"
Spark
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At a minimum if he pursues it he'll learn a lot of very interesting and very conceptually challenging mathematics and that'll help him to no end.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

most kids that smart burn out. i remember reading a story about some 13 year old in MIT.
Or they turn gay

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I bet I could kick his ass
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He seems like a pretty cool, down to earth kid tbh.
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Being right all the time is easy.  Being wrong takes maturity.

I think handling being wrong is where a lot of the child geniuses burn out.

And 170 IQ probably isn't accurate for him.  That's just where the limit of the usual tests are.
Beyond that, you need different testing methods.
Jay
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rdx-fx wrote:

Being right all the time is easy.  Being wrong takes maturity.

I think handling being wrong is where a lot of the child geniuses burn out.

And 170 IQ probably isn't accurate for him.  That's just where the limit of the usual tests are.
Beyond that, you need different testing methods.
It's probably more of a boredom thing. People like this kind of get pigeonholed and it becomes some huge letdown when they 'fail to fulfill their potential'. Whatever, who wants to do the same shit for their entire life? Newton invented calculus, gave us pre-modern physics and then fucked off for the rest of his life arguing theology. It's what he wanted to do.
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Spark
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Newton invented calculus, gave us pre-modern physics and then fucked off for the rest of his life arguing theology
You make it sound as if he wasn't doing it beforehand anyway

Anyway good on him, hope he's not held back by whatever/whoever.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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-Sh1fty-
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rdx-fx wrote:

Being right all the time is easy.  Being wrong takes maturity.
Do you mean the way a person handles being wrong shows their maturity?
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