BF2S Forums another democrat hates paying taxes, but loves you paying them

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

I am pretty sure I made it clear it was about the hypocrisy of a tax to death liberal trying to get away from paying their own taxes.

Tax to death - what is the real difference between Republicans and Democrats, 1-2% on income tax?

Are those Republican tax cuts still delivering an increase in tax revenue since unemployment jumped from 5-10%?
Since the housing market collapsed?

Tax cuts = more borrowing = you pay more in the long run and you destabilise the economy.

actually tax cuts means= tax relief for companies who then have incentive to bring business back home, which increases revenues which creates more jobs, which creates more paychecks which creates more taxes.

I guess you can not wrap your head around the idea that regardless if you force people to cover taxes not paid by the unemployed and worthless, all you are doing is driving business away, creating MORE unemployed and worthless. Then  I suppose your solution is to tax even more to cover those losses as well?

Economic is driven by the private sector, by business, not by govt., the govt. has got to let go and let the private sector restart the engine to get the money flowing again.

There are countless examples of the govt. trying to drive up revenue through increased taxation and all they have done is drive away the money so they get nothing.


"you can not tax your way into prosperity"

Last edited by DrunkFace (2011-03-24 08:04:18)

DrunkFace wrote:

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Tax to death - what is the real difference between Republicans and Democrats, 1-2% on income tax?

Are those Republican tax cuts still delivering an increase in tax revenue since unemployment jumped from 5-10%?
Since the housing market collapsed?

Tax cuts = more borrowing = you pay more in the long run and you destabilise the economy.

actually tax cuts means= tax relief for companies who then have incentive to bring business back home, which increases revenues which creates more jobs, which creates more paychecks which creates more taxes.

I guess you can not wrap your head around the idea that regardless if you force people to cover taxes not paid by the unemployed and worthless, all you are doing is driving business away, creating MORE unemployed and worthless. Then  I suppose your solution is to tax even more to cover those losses as well?

Economic is driven by the private sector, by business, not by govt., the govt. has got to let go and let the private sector restart the engine to get the money flowing again.

There are countless examples of the govt. trying to drive up revenue through increased taxation and all they have done is drive away the money so they get nothing.


"you can not tax your way into prosperity"

Sorry, but Highlighted part is false. Sales create jobs, revenue creates SFA except unwarranted upper management bonuses. Which basically makes the rest of your post mute.

lowing wrote:

I am pretty sure I made it clear it was about the hypocrisy of a tax to death liberal trying to get away from paying their own taxes.

lowing wrote:

Ty wrote:

This isn't even a question of Democrats and Republicans, to be perfectly honest from where I sit they're essentially the same anyway. It's a question of class, namely that among a large number of those in the upper class, (which in this case I'm referring to those well off enough to afford their own private plane,) they feel that they're removed from the system, almost to the extent of holding an ideology of libertarianism. This is due to the fact that anything one of these super-rich people want or need they can get without concern. They have no use for public services and feel that they shouldn't have to pay for them - if not out loud than certainly in their actions. Tax cheats among the rich are pretty common. Less so among the middle and lower classes with most tax evasion cases in those socio-economic groups coming from an inability to pay not an unwillingness.

It's not even a matter of beliving that taxes are too high or too low and though in this case there is certainly a massive aspect of hypocrisy I don't think it make it any worse than some wealty toss-pot thinking he's being taxed too much while working out legal and political loopholes to avoid paying his fair share to the country that has allowed him to gain/have such wealth.

Democrat or Republican they're all selfish greedy pricks who don't deserve the opportunities they've been given. You may want to focus on the Democrat angle Lowing but meh, they're all the same in my book.

I agree with you 100%, you are just forgetting to add that the rich that vote to increase taxes and then scoot out of paying is the hypocrisy that I refer. I do not see how you would not consider them a worse. It MAY BE bad enough that the rich don't pay "their fair share", but how can it NOT BE worse when those same rich vote that everyone else pays more?

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

lowing wrote:

What hypocrisy, what does some republican cheating on his wife with some guy in a bathroom stall have to do with my post?

Simply by naming the thread what you did and the content of the OP, Democrat/liberals are singled out without an honest 'on the other hand' disclaimer. Using hypocrisy to accuse a group of people (by extension of the use of 'another') of hypocrisy is hypocritical.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

How is it you miss the hypocrisy of taking advantage of it in a political attack that your side's also guilty of? Republicans also vote to raise taxes. I'm not going to argue the point anymore. This is a brick wall.

Last edited by lowing (2011-03-24 23:05:02)

Varegg wrote:

He didn't make this thread lowing, you did!

He didn't accuse a political side of anything for the actions of one man, you did!

That's the hypocrisy he is talking about, deflecting that with a very week counter attack doesn't make it less hypocritical ...

lowing wrote:

There is no hypocrisy, if you find me one, post it, and I will add him to the list of people that suck.

Varegg wrote:

Do they have to be under review for it to count lowing? .. or is it enough that they just cheat on their taxes and have been condemned for bribery etc etc?

How about republican pedophiles, republican rapists, republican child molesters etc etc ??

I'm pretty sure they did it because of their political views ...

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Oops ...

January 16, 2008

Former Republican congressman from Michigan, Mark Deli Siljander, was charged with money laundering, conspiracy and obstructing justice as
part of a terrorist fundraising ring that allegedly sent more than $130,000 to an Al Qaida and Taliban supporter.

Kinda makes tax evasion a kindergarten crime in comparrison ...

did he vote to raise our taxes then not pay his own?

If you want to start a thread about all the bad all the people do in the world fine, I will post in it.

This one however is for elected officials that vote to raise taxes then squirm out of paying them. If you have a republican that fits the bill list him. If not, what is all the uproar?