A nice calm assessment of the situation..
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clicky for great understanding
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Seriously man?
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I think it's been 'shopped.
On a serious note...I see these pics, and once I get past the utter despair, I think "How are they going to clean all of that up? How will they ever get back to normal there?" It seems an impossible task, but you know it will happen one day and that somehow shines some hope on the situation.
On a serious note...I see these pics, and once I get past the utter despair, I think "How are they going to clean all of that up? How will they ever get back to normal there?" It seems an impossible task, but you know it will happen one day and that somehow shines some hope on the situation.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
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― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
How would you like to be an insurance company? Game over.
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Robots - http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/03/14/jap … ue-effort/
China - http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/03/15/chi … nuke-plant
Irrelevant, but I hate it when articles aren't directly dated (yes, I see it in the URL).
China - http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/03/15/chi … nuke-plant
Irrelevant, but I hate it when articles aren't directly dated (yes, I see it in the URL).
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/0 … p;iref=BN1
they are saying radiation levels have dropped to levels "not harmful to human health". Is this something we are to believe, or is it panic control measures?
they are saying radiation levels have dropped to levels "not harmful to human health". Is this something we are to believe, or is it panic control measures?
I don't think the Japanese, at risk of an extreme generalisation, are especially given to bouts of wild panic.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
This can't be good. Japanese nuclear safety official says reactor inside stricken plant may be boiling. Via AP
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Unless it's in a Godzilla film.Spark wrote:
I don't think the Japanese, at risk of an extreme generalisation, are especially given to bouts of wild panic.
Yeah OK that isn't great. Could see some blown valves in the near future.Kmar wrote:
This can't be good. Japanese nuclear safety official says reactor inside stricken plant may be boiling. Via AP
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Worst drop in the Nikkei since 1987
Stock futures drop as Japan crisis widens
And the bow wave is heading our way...TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's Nikkei share average plunged 10.6 percent on Tuesday, posting the worst two-day rout since 1987, as hedge funds bailed out after reports of rising radiation near Tokyo. Many mutual funds were left on the sidelines, leaving them poised to dump shares into any rebound.
The yen tripped on talk of intervention by authorities trying to contain the economic impact from last week's devastating earthquake and tsunami, but then recovered. Government bond yields rose as investors sold debt to offset stock market losses.
The scale and speed of the equity selloff forced domestic fund managers to sit on the sidelines as market volumes surged to a record for a second day running.
Stock futures drop as Japan crisis widens
PARIS (Reuters) - Stock index futures dropped sharply on Tuesday, with futures for the S&P 500 down 2.8 percent, Dow Jones futures down 2.5 percent and Nasdaq 100 futures down 2.6 percent at 0935 GMT (5:35 a.m. ET), on mounting fears over Japan's nuclear crisis.
A Japanese nuclear power plant sent low levels of radiation floating toward Tokyo, prompting people to flee the capital and others to stock up on essential supplies.
Japanese stocks plunged 10.6 percent, posting the worst two-day losing streak since 1987 on reports of rising radiation near Tokyo, suggesting any deterioration at a quake-hit nuclear plant could trigger more panic selling led by hedge funds.
European stocks dropped 3.4 percent in morning trade, led by shares of nuclear-related utilities, luxury groups and assurance companies, while mining shares dropped along with metal prices.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
I wonder if we will see a rebound after the drop. Part of the housing boom was generated because of the Katrina rebuilding effort. They were building so fast that supplies of drywall were completely depleted. .. and that's why we had to import crap drywall from china .
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They just had another quake off of honshu.. 6.0. They pretty much expected more over the days following the big one.
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Word is that there is a significant chance of a very nasty aftershock (7+) in the coming days
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
BBC environment guy has done a fairly informative article on what's happening, isn't full of the "zomfg we're going to die" stuff like some other stuff i've read.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12745186
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12745186
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Important to note is that radiation isn't a static term (although the media likes to throw it all on a big pile), different radioactive isotopes have different decay rates (measured in the time it takes for them to halve in radioactivity) and also produce different amounts and kinds of radiation. People who had physics in highschool probably remember, that there are some isotopes with decay rates of a couple seconds, even a fraction of a second and there are some that decay in 10.000+ years, which ofcourse pose a very large threat to human life (say, Uranium isotopes).lowing wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/15/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
they are saying radiation levels have dropped to levels "not harmful to human health". Is this something we are to believe, or is it panic control measures?
The most dangerous isotopes are contained within the reactor containment vessels, what goes to the outside world comes from the hydrogen fueled explosions and other explosions we've seen so far, togheter with pressure releases - these all carry radioactive isotopes with them, though, nowhere near as dangerous what's inside the core.
What's going to seriously affect health is being exposed to enormous amounts of (dangerous)radiation in a short amount of time, and being exposed to pretty large amounts of radiation over a long period of time, I don't think either will happen at Fukushima, the isotopes generally, while pretty radioactive have short decay rates and don't produce large amounts of dangerous radiation - most won't reach very far. What's left at large distances is really harmless because a few radioactive isotopes don't produce enough radiation for it to be detrimental to your health. Most radiation that does get out is going to be stopped by staying inside and wearing clothes.
If someone does get radiation poisoning though (you'll only get this at this moment if you stand close to the fukushima reactors), the potential dangers can be largely undone by swallowing pottasium iodide pills, washing yourself with soap helps as well.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162- … 03543.html again, not good.
I've also seen reports that radiation increases have been detected up to 800km away in Russia. Granted it was a low amount detected and deemed not harmful, but that seems pretty far away for a supposed small release.
I've also seen reports that radiation increases have been detected up to 800km away in Russia. Granted it was a low amount detected and deemed not harmful, but that seems pretty far away for a supposed small release.
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70% chance till the 16th 50% chance from 16-19th.Spark wrote:
Word is that there is a significant chance of a very nasty aftershock (7+) in the coming days
More than 400 aftershocks so far I believe, a couple dozen over 6.0.Kmar wrote:
They just had another quake off of honshu.. 6.0. They pretty much expected more over the days following the big one.
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yeah that's what I read. Not fun. Hopefully won't cause too much damage - probably not quite big enough to cause a major tsunami (unless there's some undersea cliff/wall that's been already destabilized and is on the verge of collapse, which would be rather bad as that would create a fairly localized but fairly tall tsunami), and probably not big enough (assuming it happens out to see) to register the VII's and IX's on the Mercalli that it takes to seriously start damaging Japanese buildings.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
IAEA: Radioactivity levels decreasing at Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant http://bit.ly/gjiy4S
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About time. Was wondering what the hell was taking so long... the shorter-lived decay products should be gone by now.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Well it's got everyone worried because it might tip the scales on the nuclear reactor issue.Spark wrote:
yeah that's what I read. Not fun. Hopefully won't cause too much damage - probably not quite big enough to cause a major tsunami (unless there's some undersea cliff/wall that's been already destabilized and is on the verge of collapse, which would be rather bad as that would create a fairly localized but fairly tall tsunami), and probably not big enough (assuming it happens out to see) to register the VII's and IX's on the Mercalli that it takes to seriously start damaging Japanese buildings.
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"Michio Kaku says we're nearing "point of no return." time for "Chernobyl option" - sandbagging reactors in japan."
This I don't get. Dr. Kaku has always seemed pretty level headed to me.
This I don't get. Dr. Kaku has always seemed pretty level headed to me.
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TBF the first containment vessel breaking on the reactor is really not very good news at all, and probably sent a few alarm bells ringing through a lot of people's heads.
A long way to go before we get to Chernobyl-like disasters yet though. Long, long, long way.
A long way to go before we get to Chernobyl-like disasters yet though. Long, long, long way.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman