BF2S Forums Man beheads wife because she wanted a divorce.

oh come on :p

JohnG@lt wrote:

Does it really matter how she died? If the article had said "man shoots wife because she wanted a divorce" would you have given it a second glance?

Probably not. Beheading has a particular flavor, though.

Shit, this case has been all over the news for a LONG time in WNY.  Hassan is nuts...he killed his wife, tried to claim a battered spouse defence, and pulled all sorts of shenanigans in court (he fired I think 4 lawyers and eventually represented himself).  He deserves every second he gets behind bars.

Last edited by SenorToenails (2011-03-09 09:23:10)

HOLY SHIT!!!!

A dude killed his wife, that like, never happens!!

He did claim he was waterboarded while in the county holding center...lol  He then asked the judge to fire the sherrif.  hahahahaha

One hell of a pre-nup, I'm guessing.

Poseidon wrote:

So if a Christian murders his wife, it's because he's crazy or a bad person. If a Muslim murders his wife, it's because of his religion.

Right on.

When honor killings is part of your culture, yup it is because of your religion and culture.

UnkleRukus wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

So if a Christian murders his wife, it's because he's crazy or a bad person. If a Muslim murders his wife, it's because of his religion.

Right on.

When honor killings is part of your culture, yup it is because of your religion and culture.

Where does it state in Islamic culture that "honor killings" are allowed?

In the part where lowing is looking for an excuse to hate Islam.

UnkleRukus wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

So if a Christian murders his wife, it's because he's crazy or a bad person. If a Muslim murders his wife, it's because of his religion.

Right on.

When honor killings is part of your culture, yup it is because of your religion and culture.

Where does it state in Islamic culture that "honor killings" are allowed?

Dictums of Quran and Hadiths which may dictate/incite honor killing:

Quran- 4:15 “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four (reliable) witness from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them. Or God ordain for them some (other) way.”

Quran-24:2 “The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication—flog each of them with hundred stripes: Let no compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the last day.”

Quran-17:32 “ Nor come nigh to adultery: for it is a shameful (deed) and an evil, opening the road (to other evils).

Quran-33:33 “stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display.”

Now some sahih hadiths:

Bukhari: Volume 7, Book 63, Number 196:
Narrated Abu Huraira: A man from Bani Aslam came to Allah's Apostle while he was in the mosque and called (the Prophet ) saying, "O Allah's Apostle! I have committed illegal sexual intercourse." On that the Prophet turned his face from him to the other side, whereupon the man moved to the side towards which the Prophet had turned his face, and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I have committed illegal sexual intercourse." The Prophet turned his face (from him) to the other side whereupon the man moved to the side towards which the Prophet had turned his face, and repeated his statement. The Prophet turned his face (from him) to the other side again. The man moved again (and repeated his statement) for the fourth time. So when the man had given witness four times against himself, the Prophet called him and said, "Are you insane?" He replied, "No." The Prophet then said (to his companions), "Go and stone him to death." The man was a married one. Jabir bin 'Abdullah Al-Ansari said: I was one of those who stoned him. We stoned him at the Musalla ('Id praying place) in Medina. When the stones hit him with their sharp edges, he fled, but we caught him at Al-Harra and stoned him till he died.
(See also Bukhari: Volume 7, Book 63, Number 195.)


Sahi Bukhari: 8:6814:
Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah al-Ansari: “A man from the tribe of Bani Aslam came to Allah’s Messenger [Muhammad] and informed him that he had committed illegal sexual intercourse; and he bore witness four times against himself. Allah’s Messenger ordered him to be stoned to death as he was a married person.”

Sahi Muslim No. 4206:
“A woman came to the prophet and asked for purification by seeking punishment. He told her to go away and seek God’s forgiveness. She persisted four times and admitted she was pregnant. He told her to wait until she had given birth. Then he said that the Muslim community should wait until she had weaned her child. When the day arrived for the child to take solid food, Muhammad handed the child over to the community. And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al-Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on her face he cursed her.”

Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol 2. pg 1009; and Sahih Muslim Vol 2. pg 65:
Hadhrat Abdullah ibne Abbaas (Radiallahu Anhu) narrates the lecture that Hadhrat Umar (Radiallaahu Anhu) delivered whilst sitting on the pulpit of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam). Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu) said, "Verily, Allah sent Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) with the truth, and revealed the Quran upon him. The verse regarding the stoning of the adulterer/ess was from amongst the verse revealed (in the Quraan). We read it, secured it and understood it. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) stoned and we stoned after him. I fear that with the passage of time a person might say, ‘We do not find mention of stoning in the Book of Allah and thereby go astray by leaving out an obligation revealed by Allah. Verily, the stoning of a adulterer/ress is found in the Quraan and is the truth, if the witnesses are met or there is a pregnancy or confession."

Al-Bukhari:
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Whoever guarantees me that he will guard his chastity, I will guarantee him Paradise”.

Al-Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, An-Nisa’i and others:
Abu Hurayrah reports that the Messenger of Allah said, “No one commits adultery while still remaining a believer, for faith is more precious unto Allah than such an evil act!” In another version, it is stated, “When a person commits adultery he casts away from his neck the bond that ties him to Islam; if, however, he repents, Allah will accept his repentance”.

Al-Bayhaqi:
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “O mankind! Beware of fornication/adultery for it entails six dire consequences: three of them relating to this world and three to the next world. As for the three that are related to this world, they are the following: it removes the glow of one’s face, brings poverty, and reduces the life-span. As for its dire consequences in the next world they are: it brings down the wrath of Allah upon the person, subjects him to terrible reckoning, and finally casts him in hell-fire.”

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is that enough or can you type in honor killing and see how much Islam shit comes up for yourself?

lowing wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Where does it state in Islamic culture that "honor killings" are allowed?

In the part where lowing is looking for an excuse to hate Islam.

don't have to look very hard. Reasons for hating Islam is pretty much in your face.

Because of one beheading in the US? lolololololoololololol

Did you know it's considered a crime of passion to shoot your wife if you find her in bed with another man in Texas? Wouldn't you consider that an honor killing?

lowing wrote:

don't have to look very hard. Reasons for hating religion are pretty much in your face.

FTFY

lowing wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

lowing wrote:

don't have to look very hard. Reasons for hating Islam is pretty much in your face.

Because of one beheading in the US? lolololololoololololol

Did you know it's considered a crime of passion to shoot your wife if you find her in bed with another man in Texas? Wouldn't you consider that an honor killing?

1 beheading huh?

nope that is a crime of passion and has dick to do with accepted behavior in our society.

Crime of Passion is the same damn thing as an honor killing. They're both based on emotion (embarrassment leading to anger).

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2011-03-09 10:20:57)