Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5975|College Park, MD

Karbin wrote:

supposedly some cops prevented a democratic state senator from entering the building? yeah that looks real good, union folk.
Not quite.  Court order was served that the protesters could not spend the night in the building. The cops were stopping the senator from entering the building, thought he was a protester, slammed him to the ground and were cuffing him when he I.D.ed himself.
Real good union folk doing their job.
And yes he was allowed in to his office to get what he had gone there for and escorted out.
Ah, ok. I was under the impression that he'd had enough and wanted to enter the building so they could actually vote on it, and the cops stopped him from doing so.
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Karbin
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Karbin wrote:

supposedly some cops prevented a democratic state senator from entering the building? yeah that looks real good, union folk.
Not quite.  Court order was served that the protesters could not spend the night in the building. The cops were stopping the senator from entering the building, thought he was a protester, slammed him to the ground and were cuffing him when he I.D.ed himself.
Real good union folk doing their job.
And yes he was allowed in to his office to get what he had gone there for and escorted out.
Ah, ok. I was under the impression that he'd had enough and wanted to enter the building so they could actually vote on it, and the cops stopped him from doing so.
Returned after hours to retrieve some documents from his office..... then, probably, beat feet for the state line.

But you assumed that, the cops being in a union, prevented the senator from voting.
Instead, the cops were carrying out a court order and doing their job.
Could I suggest that you take the higher road first before jumping into the gutter?

Last edited by Karbin (2011-03-05 11:18:34)

Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5975|College Park, MD
I probably should, yes.
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11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio
hahahaha owned.  bill passed.  go back to work you stupid fucking teachers.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio
we need a raygun moment here.  fire them all.
Karbin
Member
+42|6568
Going to get interesting.... school board elections, county controllers... oh, ya.... and Judges (sits back with some popcorn)
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio
if they are not back to work tomorrow morning...fired.  period.
Karbin
Member
+42|6568

11 Bravo wrote:

we need a raygun moment here.  fire them all.
Fire the Governor..... big court challenge on the manner of passage. Rules say 24 hours notice for a vote on a changed bill, 2 hours notice given. Public hearings 10 min long, and not open to the public.
All the finance taken out of the bill and the only part voted on was the part on CBA's. Police and Fire not on the list of banned unions.
Hmmmmmmmm
Me smells more then bad cheese in Wisconsin.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio
fire the gov?  why?  dems ran away like cunts.
Karbin
Member
+42|6568

11 Bravo wrote:

fire the gov?  why?  dems ran away like cunts.
Read the whole post again.....gave it all there
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio

Karbin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

fire the gov?  why?  dems ran away like cunts.
Read the whole post again.....gave it all there
rules say dems dont run away like girls also.  fair play if you ask me.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6684|'Murka

Karbin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

we need a raygun moment here.  fire them all.
Fire the Governor..... big court challenge on the manner of passage. Rules say 24 hours notice for a vote on a changed bill, 2 hours notice given. Public hearings 10 min long, and not open to the public.
All the finance taken out of the bill and the only part voted on was the part on CBA's. Police and Fire not on the list of banned unions.
Hmmmmmmmm
Me smells more then bad cheese in Wisconsin.
Sounds like they need to fire the people who run the legislature, not the Governor. Separation of powers and all.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6987|Purplicious Wisconsin
I think everything is fine. Only people that should lose their jobs is the dems that ran away. This is only the beginning for Wisconsin, more good things are to come.

11 Bravo wrote:

if they are not back to work tomorrow morning...fired.  period.
Not fired, layed off. There is a difference. It is unfortunately hard to fire union workers in Wisconsin.

Last edited by War Man (2011-03-09 19:05:12)

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krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7053|Great Brown North

War Man wrote:

I think everything is fine. Only people that should lose their jobs is the dems that ran away. This is only the beginning for Wisconsin, more good things are to come.

11 Bravo wrote:

if they are not back to work tomorrow morning...fired.  period.
Not fired, layed off. There is a difference. It is unfortunately hard to fire union workers in Wisconsin.
Stubbee
Religions Hate Facts, Questions and Doubts
+223|7016|Reality

11 Bravo wrote:

fucking unions.  bunch of crybabies.  fucking hate them.  always have.  this whole thing has made me loose what little respect i had for teachers to begin with.  now when i vote locally, it will be no for anything the teachers want. gg
I red this an had a reel gud laff at you're expence. oh the iron knee!
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio

Stubbee wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

fucking unions.  bunch of crybabies.  fucking hate them.  always have.  this whole thing has made me loose what little respect i had for teachers to begin with.  now when i vote locally, it will be no for anything the teachers want. gg
I red this an had a reel gud laff at you're expence. oh the iron knee!
and i got told to add more to a 5 yr old thread and this is tolerated?
Stubbee
Religions Hate Facts, Questions and Doubts
+223|7016|Reality

11 Bravo wrote:

Stubbee wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

fucking unions.  bunch of crybabies.  fucking hate them.  always have.  this whole thing has made me loose what little respect i had for teachers to begin with.  now when i vote locally, it will be no for anything the teachers want. gg
I red this an had a reel gud laff at you're expence. oh the iron knee!
and i got told to add more to a 5 yr old thread and this is tolerated?
goes to credibility of the poster.
poster fucking rants on teachers and yet can't even spell or write properly. I, in extreme sarcasm, made fun of you to prove a point. Most people here, especially the mods, 'got' it. You, a confirmed serial necro-poster with troll-like tendencies have yet again solidified public opinion regarding your edumacation and overall character with your 'wah wah wah he made fun of me' post.

unions have their place as a check against unscrupulous owners/managers
but like everything in life there will be people who try twist/use/control things for their benefit.
catering to lowest common denominator is stupid. I guess the union leaders need some more edumacation too. They need to understand that such inefficiencies cause their companies to suffer thus placing all the jobs they are supposedly protecting in jeopardy.
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio
i said loose instead of lose and that gives you the right to be a douche?  oh sorry grammar nazi.  you are so cool.  how about you fuck off.

troll?  i gave my opinion of the matter.  what did you do?  troll.  yet you call someone else a troll.  fucking hell.  go die please.

and unions are a bunch of cunts.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5975|College Park, MD
i still haven't seen a super solid argument for unions. my dad isn't in a union and he doesn't get treated poorly by his employer, the hours can be hell but he certainly gets well compensated for it.
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11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

i still haven't seen a super solid argument for unions. my dad isn't in a union and he doesn't get treated poorly by his employer, the hours can be hell but he certainly gets well compensated for it.
been union once and have never noticied any diff.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5631|London, England

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

i still haven't seen a super solid argument for unions. my dad isn't in a union and he doesn't get treated poorly by his employer, the hours can be hell but he certainly gets well compensated for it.
I had an American history professor in college once that stated and I quote "Before unions there was only rich people and poor people. The middle class did not exist before unions."

I had the most glorious laughing/coughing fit ever that day.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6988|US
Well, in public sector unions, the "evil boss" would be the taxpayers and their elected representatives...gee, don't we just hate ourselves!?

I'm laughing a bit.  I don't have a dog in this fight, but the popcorn value is pretty high.  The Dems don't get enough seats to outvote the Repubs, so they do the immature "Screw you guys, I'm going to IL!"  The Repubs return the metaphorical "Bird" and pass legislation anyway.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio
the dems are the ones who look downright stupid here.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5510|Cleveland, Ohio
funny if this was the tea party this thread would be 50 pages by now.

and bf2s aint one sided lol.
Karbin
Member
+42|6568

11 Bravo wrote:

funny if this was the tea party this thread would be 50 pages by now.

and bf2s aint one sided lol.
Naaa... just the political lines and players here are well known.
You know.... Dems are lazy bums... Repubs are hard working and over taxed.... take rights from this group....do not touch rights for that group.
Unions are evil.... unions are the down fall of the west.
Unions are good and helped build the middle class.

You know how it go's.

But on a personal note, I do find it ........ strange.... that anyone here would think it a GOOD idea to strip rights from any group based on their profession or group affiliation.

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