lol way too many examples in history to prove that statement wrong.tazz. wrote:
It wont die imo.
Facebook has one thing weighing heavily in its favor: inertia. It would take a lot to get people to move off of the network now that they've become used to it. Unless a person could convince all of their friends to pack up and move to another site with them, it's probably just not going to happen.
Could Facebook screw up? Absolutely. If they got greedy and went overboard with the ads they would surely drive people away. If they keep at their current level? I don't see them losing much market share.
Now, what will undoubtedly happen is Facebook will become associated with 'old people', and teenagers and college students will find 'the next big thing' to flock to instead of 'boring old facebook' and the cycle will begin anew.
Could Facebook screw up? Absolutely. If they got greedy and went overboard with the ads they would surely drive people away. If they keep at their current level? I don't see them losing much market share.
Now, what will undoubtedly happen is Facebook will become associated with 'old people', and teenagers and college students will find 'the next big thing' to flock to instead of 'boring old facebook' and the cycle will begin anew.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
JohnG@lt wrote:
what will undoubtedly happen is Facebook will become associated with 'old people', and teenagers and college students will find 'the next big thing' to flock to instead of 'boring old facebook' and the cycle will begin anew.
different uses and purposes... you can't use that as some argument for facebook's invalidation and deterioration. twitter is far more effective for spreading on-the-ground news and information... facebook is based around building a personal profile and having an online identity/message box.Dilbert_X wrote:
The last Iranian unrest was based around twitter more than facebook was it not?
facebook is pretty adaptable and i think it will stick around, for a while. it has more of a functional use and social value than transient and entirely superficial / self-absorbed services like myspace. linkedin is a good example of a site with a hard underlying 'function' and a reason for use (i.e. one other than vanity and casual socialising)- but in its scope and utility it is far more niche. professionals building work networks and career associations are an extremely small demographic slice of the social networking pie.
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this sort of approach is pretty dumb, in my opinion... same as saying "of course the bubble will burst". well how do you define a 'bubble'? isn't it something transient and temporary; a rise and fall in the blink of an eye? facebook has been around and has dominated social networking for years and it has no signs of losing steam or slowing growth. yeah, sure you can say in 15 years time "i told you so!" because facebook will be web2.0 history... but everything dies and falls out of use. would you say that compact CD's were a 'bubble' in the music industry, because they were made inferior by the mp3 and digital era? yeah, every technology has a lifespan... normally within the space of a few years, or maybe a decade. but that doesn't mean it was intrinsically 'doomed' or a 'fad' or a 'craze'. facebook clearly has more of a significance than that.11 Bravo wrote:
lol way too many examples in history to prove that statement wrong.tazz. wrote:
It wont die imo.
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im curious to see what will happen when my generation gets into their 30-40s. will we keep facebook or drop it? its seems like an ingrained part of our society, but i could also see people growing out of it. it does have use (picture sharing, keeping in touch, etc) later in life...
You get 'stuck'. I still use AIM because my friends list is still populated from 1995.Winston_Churchill wrote:
im curious to see what will happen when my generation gets into their 30-40s. will we keep facebook or drop it? its seems like an ingrained part of our society, but i could also see people growing out of it. it does have use (picture sharing, keeping in touch, etc) later in life...
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
At least then they have an account of how misguided they were as teensWinston_Churchill wrote:
im curious to see what will happen when my generation gets into their 30-40s. will we keep facebook or drop it? its seems like an ingrained part of our society, but i could also see people growing out of it. it does have use (picture sharing, keeping in touch, etc) later in life...
OP was referring to monetary value not intrinsic. The amount of money they hold due to stock sales remind me of when AOL had enough money to buy Time Warner and then started it's downward plunge. The circumstances were a bit different but the issue is still the same. I don't remember the dot com bubble but from what I have read on it, the companies back then and FB now have a lot in common.
But whatever.
But whatever.
I think it isn't when or if it will die, but more of a how long will they be able to adapt and grow with technology.Uzique wrote:
this sort of approach is pretty dumb, in my opinion... same as saying "of course the bubble will burst". well how do you define a 'bubble'? isn't it something transient and temporary; a rise and fall in the blink of an eye? facebook has been around and has dominated social networking for years and it has no signs of losing steam or slowing growth. yeah, sure you can say in 15 years time "i told you so!" because facebook will be web2.0 history... but everything dies and falls out of use. would you say that compact CD's were a 'bubble' in the music industry, because they were made inferior by the mp3 and digital era? yeah, every technology has a lifespan... normally within the space of a few years, or maybe a decade. but that doesn't mean it was intrinsically 'doomed' or a 'fad' or a 'craze'. facebook clearly has more of a significance than that.11 Bravo wrote:
lol way too many examples in history to prove that statement wrong.tazz. wrote:
It wont die imo.
tbh facebook chat is so shitty, I've got a lot of my friends to migrate to skype, for file sharing and other stuff.Poseidon wrote:
I dunno. MySpace, from what I remember, never really came out with any revolutionary changes. Facebook? Well, IMO Facebook chat was the biggest thing ever for the site. Completely eliminated the use for AIM. Sure it's still kind of broken, but almost every single one of my friends communicates (electronically) through one of 3 ways: Texting, calling and Facebook chat. I know people keep thinking FB will go the way of MySpace, but I don't really see it when FB keeps adding new features and evolving. At least not for a good 15 years.Reciprocity wrote:
something "better" always comes along. in 10 years people will watch that facebook movie and be like, "wtf is facebook?"
Social media sites today are like what chat rooms were in the early to mid 1990's.
It's a bubble.
Big, shiny, impressive... but transient, and full of (essentially) nothing.
The signal-to-noise ratio is overwhelmingly in favor of noise.
Seems like those that have the least to say, are the ones that tend to be the most vocal on Facebook.
People are going to eventually wake up, ask "why the fuck was I spending 8 hours a day obsessively checking what my BFF from 5th grade had for lunch?!" (and other trivia of equal or lesser value), and move on to the Next Big Thing
Eventually, I would predict that connectivity appliances (iPad, iPhone, PC) will subsume the core functionality of social media sites, and discard the banal noise.
It's a bubble.
Big, shiny, impressive... but transient, and full of (essentially) nothing.
The signal-to-noise ratio is overwhelmingly in favor of noise.
Seems like those that have the least to say, are the ones that tend to be the most vocal on Facebook.
People are going to eventually wake up, ask "why the fuck was I spending 8 hours a day obsessively checking what my BFF from 5th grade had for lunch?!" (and other trivia of equal or lesser value), and move on to the Next Big Thing
Eventually, I would predict that connectivity appliances (iPad, iPhone, PC) will subsume the core functionality of social media sites, and discard the banal noise.
Probably, just referring to Kmar's post and making the point its not solely about Facebook.Uzique wrote:
different uses and purposes... you can't use that as some argument for facebook's invalidation and deterioration. twitter is far more effective for spreading on-the-ground news and information... facebook is based around building a personal profile and having an online identity/message box.Dilbert_X wrote:
The last Iranian unrest was based around twitter more than facebook was it not?
facebook is pretty adaptable and i think it will stick around, for a while. it has more of a functional use and social value than transient and entirely superficial / self-absorbed services like myspace. linkedin is a good example of a site with a hard underlying 'function' and a reason for use (i.e. one other than vanity and casual socialising)- but in its scope and utility it is far more niche. professionals building work networks and career associations are an extremely small demographic slice of the social networking pie.
Facebook have been very effective at holding their user-base, although their formatting changes are getting tiresome.
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their lack of changes would grow tiresome, too, tbh... as web-design standards, expectations and 'trends' progress.
really when they deal with such a huge userbase, they're damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don't when it comes to mass changes like that.
really when they deal with such a huge userbase, they're damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don't when it comes to mass changes like that.
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Where else are 40 year old women and 17 year old girls going to click EVERY SINGLE FUCKING OBVIOUS SPAM LINK EVER and fill up everything with everything-ville?
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
My dad uses facebook to annoy me since I rarely answer his calls. Daily spam on my wall.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I specifically stated that I was referring to the recent unrest in Egypt, which was largely organized on FB.Dilbert_X wrote:
Probably, just referring to Kmar's post and making the point its not solely about Facebook.Uzique wrote:
different uses and purposes... you can't use that as some argument for facebook's invalidation and deterioration. twitter is far more effective for spreading on-the-ground news and information... facebook is based around building a personal profile and having an online identity/message box.Dilbert_X wrote:
The last Iranian unrest was based around twitter more than facebook was it not?
facebook is pretty adaptable and i think it will stick around, for a while. it has more of a functional use and social value than transient and entirely superficial / self-absorbed services like myspace. linkedin is a good example of a site with a hard underlying 'function' and a reason for use (i.e. one other than vanity and casual socialising)- but in its scope and utility it is far more niche. professionals building work networks and career associations are an extremely small demographic slice of the social networking pie.
Facebook have been very effective at holding their user-base, although their formatting changes are getting tiresome.
Facebook makes it really easy to organize events. In fact it might be the best thing it has going for it. That and it's been the internets largest photo sharing site for some time now.
Zeek is right about twitter as well. Since day once I've used it primarily for getting news. Most of the people I follow are in the science and tech industries.
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i closed my facebook/tumblr/twitter accounts today, anyway.
i'm not sure if business-wise they're a bubble... but i think i'm done with them
i'm not sure if business-wise they're a bubble... but i think i'm done with them
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
lol... it's my last 2 months of undergraduate study and i really can't afford to spend 2-3 hours a day shooting the shit with people i don't care about, or scrawling endlessly through needsfeed information of their inane little lives. it's an anti-procrastination act... not some ego ragequit. silly galt.
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You'll be back.
of course.
but i'm not sure it would hurt to learn how to network and socialise the old-fashioned way, either. i just feel like the 'teenage' period of using social-networking is at an end for me personally - it will only have a detrimental effect on my life(style) if i'm still using facebook like an extra-limb for socialising and networking, post-graduation. it needs to take a backseat, basically. i think university students, as a demographic, are so instrinsically tied to their facebook account and all of the site's utilities... that's all fine and well when you're in the university 'bubble', but the way i see it the use of facebook needs to be curbed majorly after that. what better time to start then before my finalist essays and dissertation hand-in?
oh and twitter is a useful tool for micro-tasks... tumblr is nothing more really than faux-artistic self-indulgence. it's fun to look at cool images and trawl through tonnes of self-obsessed shite every once in a while... but that is a 'network' i definitely think i can do without.
but i'm not sure it would hurt to learn how to network and socialise the old-fashioned way, either. i just feel like the 'teenage' period of using social-networking is at an end for me personally - it will only have a detrimental effect on my life(style) if i'm still using facebook like an extra-limb for socialising and networking, post-graduation. it needs to take a backseat, basically. i think university students, as a demographic, are so instrinsically tied to their facebook account and all of the site's utilities... that's all fine and well when you're in the university 'bubble', but the way i see it the use of facebook needs to be curbed majorly after that. what better time to start then before my finalist essays and dissertation hand-in?
oh and twitter is a useful tool for micro-tasks... tumblr is nothing more really than faux-artistic self-indulgence. it's fun to look at cool images and trawl through tonnes of self-obsessed shite every once in a while... but that is a 'network' i definitely think i can do without.
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Deleted all of mine and regretted it fairly soon after, felt pretty out of the loop when everyone else is still organising every little detail of their lives on there. Decided to go back on and just purged my "friends" list of a couple of hundred names. Now have about 80 people who I either talk to regularly or feel I might need to contact one day in the future.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
i had to delete a facebook account last week my friend set up for me as a joke. I had to explain to him that potential employers, family, old friends may in fact look for me on there. They probably wouldn't take to kindly to seeing me drunk on the floor, and old family that I haven't been in contact with might have raised a few eyebrows where under interests or whatever, he put "men and women". Funny, but not really given the potential consequences.
I think many more are moving into Facebook than growing out of it. Even people who otherwise have no business on the internet use it to find old friends.ghettoperson wrote:
Linkedin is a completely different tool. It's for getting your CV out there, and networking. Linkedin is for your professional life, Facebook is for your personal life.Dilbert_X wrote:
Many people are steadily growing out of Facebook and moving into professional networks like linkedin.
That will leave facebook for kids, and kids are fickle.
Obviously you hate Facebook, so you're probably not going to see that.
Yeah, doing that's pretty uncalled for.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
i had to delete a facebook account last week my friend set up for me as a joke. I had to explain to him that potential employers, family, old friends may in fact look for me on there. They probably wouldn't take to kindly to seeing me drunk on the floor, and old family that I haven't been in contact with might have raised a few eyebrows where under interests or whatever, he put "men and women". Funny, but not really given the potential consequences.