well, lets not go too far..
but i just really like that part of the movie
but i just really like that part of the movie
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globefish23 wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/world/africa/31intel.html?_r=1&hp
/facepalmThe Central Intelligence Agency has inserted clandestine operatives into Libya to gather intelligence for military airstrikes and to contact and vet the beleaguered rebels battling Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s forces, according to American officials.
In addition, the American spies are meeting with rebels to try to fill in gaps in understanding who their leaders are and the allegiances of the groups opposed to Colonel Qaddafi, said United States government officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the classified nature of the activities.
A spokesman for Britain’s Ministry of Defense declined to comment, citing a policy not to discuss the operations of British Special Forces.
Do those "anonymous" officials understand what the terms "classified" and "clandestine" actually mean?
At least the Brits understand the meaning of the terms. Fucking numbnuts in Washington...
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Doesn't really matter, it gets atomised.11 Bravo wrote:
had them during the invasion but they were not allowed to use those rounds within a certain radius to towns or water...or something like that.
Fuck Israel
makes the reports look betterDilbert_X wrote:
Doesn't really matter, it gets atomised.11 Bravo wrote:
had them during the invasion but they were not allowed to use those rounds within a certain radius to towns or water...or something like that.
Well, some would say the American example is also a cultural issue.Uzique wrote:
that is a frighteningly and shockingly ahistorical analysis of south africa... jesus.
"it could simply be a matter of cultures that do not allow their people to evolve"
well holy fuck
no surprises that a country made of a european post-colonial ruling class has 'evolution' problems concerning the welfare of its formerly-subjugated citizens. fuck me. "it could be that american has a culture that does not allow its people to evolve"... how many years since the abolition of slavery and how many niggas still living in ghettos or ghost-towns across the land?
I did mention that Africa has been "repeatedly raped" by the West, and yeah, apartheid ended relatively recently.
Because of the timeline involved, it's actually easier to suggest that the problems in the black community here are currently more cultural than socioeconomic.
South Africa obviously has had less time to evolve since apartheid, so the problems can be more directly linked to what you mentioned.
Anyway, don't get your panties in a wad. You seem to do that a lot.
good points.Turquoise wrote:
Well, some would say the American example is also a cultural issue.Uzique wrote:
that is a frighteningly and shockingly ahistorical analysis of south africa... jesus.
"it could simply be a matter of cultures that do not allow their people to evolve"
well holy fuck
no surprises that a country made of a european post-colonial ruling class has 'evolution' problems concerning the welfare of its formerly-subjugated citizens. fuck me. "it could be that american has a culture that does not allow its people to evolve"... how many years since the abolition of slavery and how many niggas still living in ghettos or ghost-towns across the land?
I did mention that Africa has been "repeatedly raped" by the West, and yeah, apartheid ended relatively recently.
Because of the timeline involved, it's actually easier to suggest that the problems in the black community here are currently more cultural than socioeconomic.
South Africa obviously has had less time to evolve since apartheid, so the problems can be more directly linked to what you mentioned.
Anyway, don't get your panties in a wad. You seem to do that a lot.
being ruled by 12312315 brutal dictators in total across the continent doesn't help
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
well blaming europe and the US gets kind of old and is a stupid argument. i mean the US is a young country...can we still blame the brits for everything?Spark wrote:
being ruled by 12312315 brutal dictators in total across the continent doesn't help
That's so colonial...
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Most likely not.
Sounds like the collateral damage assessment was for the weapons employed and they didn't know that there was ammo in the convoy. Likely would've hit the vehicles in a different area, further away from structures if that were the case. ROE revisions will likely be forthcoming, regardless.article wrote:
Dr Refardi said he had spoken to the family of the girls who had been killed and "there was no anger" at the coalition forces.
"If these tanks had entered Ajdabiya it would have been a massacre," he said.
"They [the Libyan people] are expecting more than this, because they know the Gaddafi forces are using civilians as a shield."
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12981237
We don't want intervention lulz.The Libyan rebel commander, Gen Abdul Fattah Younis, has accused Nato of standing idly by while pro-Gaddafi forces kill people in Misrata.
fuck em. no fly zone is just that. deal with it.
this "rape" chick reminds me of "shoe" form wag the dog
It's all a conspiracy, man.
it is. you wanna know why i think we went to libya? so obama could say he helped stabilize the region and lower oil prices (campaign has just started, right?). which btw are very very high and people blamed bush left and right yet obama escapes any ripping from the media for it.Turquoise wrote:
It's all a conspiracy, man.
I agree, it has nothing to do with having a UN resolution.
no fly zone yes. helping the rebs advance no. getting rid of daffy no.Vilham wrote:
I agree, it has nothing to do with having a UN resolution.
Um, no. War has a habit of raising oil prices, not lowering them.11 Bravo wrote:
it is. you wanna know why i think we went to libya? so obama could say he helped stabilize the region and lower oil prices (campaign has just started, right?). which btw are very very high and people blamed bush left and right yet obama escapes any ripping from the media for it.Turquoise wrote:
It's all a conspiracy, man.
Theoretically, the aftermath of Libya could lead to lower oil prices, but that's certainly not a guarantee, and it's an awfully expensive way to attempt lowering oil prices.
I think it's probably because of the same reason we entered Iraq -- strategic interests. Some of that involves the interests of oil companies, but it's really just the same shit, different war.
And yes, the Democrats are being rather hypocritical by supporting what is essentially the same as Bush's doctrine.
However, the Republicans are being hypocritical by going against it.
It's really just a good demonstration of how stupid our political system is.
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I don't think our strategic interests were involved at all. Have to agree with Gates on this one.
Again, the only strategic play I can see here is a quid pro quo with our European allies...either payback for their past support or upfront money for future support from them. But I doubt this administration thinks that strategically, tbh.
Again, the only strategic play I can see here is a quid pro quo with our European allies...either payback for their past support or upfront money for future support from them. But I doubt this administration thinks that strategically, tbh.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12993962The US has rebuffed a personal appeal from Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi to US President Barack Obama, repeating that he must resign and go into exile.
"Mr Gaddafi knows what he must do," US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said, commenting on the three-page letter received by the president.
Hang on, I thought this was a simple no-fly zone.
Oh well.
Fuck Israel
campaign time........lets go to war
ugh since when are tanks able to shoot at planes? (stay out with your stupid video game commentary kthx)
They're low flying planes which cant' fly or attack other planes, except other tank planes.
Duh.
This is looking like another unwinnable quagmire, GG.
Duh.
This is looking like another unwinnable quagmire, GG.
Fuck Israel