Turquoise
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Wiki wrote:

Britain regarded the war as a slideshow
You have to admit that it does make for a really neat Powerpoint presentation.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

No.

How is a pilot more vulnerable to a SAM than an infantryman is to a tank round?

If you're deploying ground troops to protect civilians wouldn't it make sense to vapourise every enemy tank, in their base, deployed or whatever?
infantry could maintain a defilade position
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nukchebi0
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Dilbert_X wrote:

No.

How is a pilot more vulnerable to a SAM than an infantryman is to a tank round?

If you're deploying ground troops to protect civilians wouldn't it make sense to vapourise every enemy tank, in their base, deployed or whatever?
Dormant and ostensibly unused tanks don't pose an immediate and unavoidable threat if activated, unlike an air defense system.
Uzique
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"ostensibly unused"

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nukchebi0
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Uzique wrote:

"ostensibly unused"

w t f
lol i love how anytime i post here i cant count on you to play language nazi.

anyways dilbert says that you dont conclude military hardware is active until its shooting at you already hence "ostensibly unused" makes perfect sense in the sentence. 'dormant' describes the proximate state, 'ostensibly unused' describes the perceived reason for this state, namely reluctant or cautious assumption that it is not intended to be utilized for any military action.

honestly i don't see how it is in anyway confusing and complicated.
Uzique
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just stop typing.

or take a writing class.
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Mekstizzle
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11 Bravo wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

was like never seen before?

ok now you need to show me some proof.  have had about enough of this crap being tossed around with no solid proof.
wake up mekstizzle
It was all over the news, and not just western news. It's not my fault that you'll dismiss it all as pro-Obama propaganda either. If you couldn't be bothered to follow this before it became a fucking warzone that isn't my fault.

Shit, read the wiki on it if you must. I'm sure the article has plenty of citations/links about it all. Like I said, you're just going to dismiss everything as propaganda anyway, so why ask?
11 Bravo
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was like never seen before?

no sorry mek.  never heard that.  please explain.  im sure most people on this board might not agree with your statement.
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Uzique wrote:

just stop typing.

or take a writing class.
k dawg u gonna have 2 explain dat cuz i never learn nothin like it dawg
FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

No.

How is a pilot more vulnerable to a SAM than an infantryman is to a tank round?
How many more times/ways does it need to be explained? Tank rounds don't maneuver or have guidance systems; tank rounds generally aren't cued by C2 centers...the list goes on and on. And has been provided. Repeatedly. And yet you persist as if it hasn't. Like English is a second or third language for you or something. It's getting ludicrous.

Dilbert_X wrote:

If you're deploying ground troops to protect civilians wouldn't it make sense to vapourise every enemy tank, in their base, deployed or whatever?
No, unless they move to within a certain distance of your position (usually referred to as a "red line").
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The speech Obama gave tonight sounded a lot like the one Bush gave 8 years ago...

The primary difference was in tone. Obama sounded defensive. Bush sounded like he was a cowboy.
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I want a picture of Bush in a cowboy outfit on a horse with an M16 slung behind his back and an american flag in one hand as he charges Baghdad.
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Shahter
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how does a clown become president on the usa?
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
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FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

No.

How is a pilot more vulnerable to a SAM than an infantryman is to a tank round?
Tank rounds don't maneuver or have guidance systems; tank rounds generally aren't cued by C2 centers...the list goes on and on.
So what? None if this is relevant.

Anti-personnel rounds don't have guidance systems or C2 centres, they're pretty effective though, and can be fired from 'ostensibly dormant' tanks pretty quickly.
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Shahter wrote:

how does a clown become president on the usa?
Its a two party system, they take turns.
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Kmar
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I think George H. W. Bush was the last president to serve one term. Who was preceded by a republican.. no they don't take turns.
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Kmar
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Turkey blocks no fly zone. France wants a non-nato body to lead operations. Quagmire
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11 Bravo
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11 Bravo wrote:

was like never seen before?

no sorry mek.  never heard that.  please explain.  im sure most people on this board might not agree with your statement.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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We're not at war. We're just meeting with rebel leaders, building ties with the opposition, and bombing targets at their request. http://twitter.com/AP/status/52657692845670400
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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

No.

How is a pilot more vulnerable to a SAM than an infantryman is to a tank round?
Tank rounds don't maneuver or have guidance systems; tank rounds generally aren't cued by C2 centers...the list goes on and on.
So what? None if this is relevant.

Anti-personnel rounds don't have guidance systems or C2 centres, they're pretty effective though, and can be fired from 'ostensibly dormant' tanks pretty quickly.
JHTDC. It's absolutely relevant. It's the very nature of the threat. If something is non-maneuverable or less maneuverable than its target, it's easier to defeat, the opposite situation makes it less so. The chance for survival of infantry vs tank is much higher than plane vs IADS.

Seriously. You know not of what you speak. Just stop.

Last edited by FEOS (2011-03-29 03:19:12)

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Kmar wrote:

We're not at war. We're just meeting with rebel leaders, building ties with the opposition, and bombing targets at their request. http://twitter.com/AP/status/52657692845670400
gay
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Careless
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11 Bravo
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ok that word works also

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