Pro piracy
That doesn't mean you don't have to pay for it. Heaven forbid you pay a band's distributors and promotion companies for distributing their music and promoting them!globefish23 wrote:
This is true.Jaekus wrote:
I admit I pirate music. Being a musician myself that's pretty hypocritical, and I'm aware of that. I like to think though the couple dollars the artist would see in royalties on an album sale is better spent on a ticket to their live gig, where they directly get 85-95% of the ticket price. I go to as many gigs as I can; I consider that money well spent.
Musicians make the gross of their income from touring and merchandise sales there, because that cuts out as many middlemen as possible.
(Even if they have their own record labels, they still have to pay distributors and promotion companies.)
90% of pirated material would never be otherwise bought. That really doesn't hurt the industries. It's the 10% of new/unreleased/upcoming media and material pirated that is kind of killing the old school distribution model.
A popular Danish band offered their new album as a free download you could pay for, if you wanted to...KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
That doesn't mean you don't have to pay for it. Heaven forbid you pay a band's distributors and promotion companies for distributing their music and promoting them!globefish23 wrote:
This is true.Jaekus wrote:
I admit I pirate music. Being a musician myself that's pretty hypocritical, and I'm aware of that. I like to think though the couple dollars the artist would see in royalties on an album sale is better spent on a ticket to their live gig, where they directly get 85-95% of the ticket price. I go to as many gigs as I can; I consider that money well spent.
Musicians make the gross of their income from touring and merchandise sales there, because that cuts out as many middlemen as possible.
(Even if they have their own record labels, they still have to pay distributors and promotion companies.)
90% of pirated material would never be otherwise bought. That really doesn't hurt the industries. It's the 10% of new/unreleased/upcoming media and material pirated that is kind of killing the old school distribution model.
They earned much more than they would have if a record company had taken it's cut...
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its for fags who dont have the sack to pay for their stuff
Fans can pay what they want / Bands earn more11 Bravo wrote:
its for fags who dont have the sack to pay for their stuff
Win/Win
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What happened to the 28 day release contracts?Kmar wrote:
I'd like to see Red Box go online. Don't get me wrong, I love Netflix.. they offer a hell of a lot more than Red Box, but Red Box gets new releases the day they come out. Merge the best of those two services together and you'll see great profit.JohnG@lt wrote:
This mostly. But with the advent of things like Pandora does it really matter if you pirate music anymore? Same goes for old movies.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't see a huge problem in using cracked software from 5 years ago which is no longer even supported, otherwise piracy is theft.
Nice try, RIAA.
I didn't say I don't buy music, just I'm admitting there's been times when I haven't.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
That doesn't mean you don't have to pay for it. Heaven forbid you pay a band's distributors and promotion companies for distributing their music and promoting them!globefish23 wrote:
This is true.Jaekus wrote:
I admit I pirate music. Being a musician myself that's pretty hypocritical, and I'm aware of that. I like to think though the couple dollars the artist would see in royalties on an album sale is better spent on a ticket to their live gig, where they directly get 85-95% of the ticket price. I go to as many gigs as I can; I consider that money well spent.
Musicians make the gross of their income from touring and merchandise sales there, because that cuts out as many middlemen as possible.
(Even if they have their own record labels, they still have to pay distributors and promotion companies.)
90% of pirated material would never be otherwise bought. That really doesn't hurt the industries. It's the 10% of new/unreleased/upcoming media and material pirated that is kind of killing the old school distribution model.
"Your own music" is your property as soon as it is recorded - intellectual copyright.Uzique wrote:
"your own music" would have to be signed to a label.
deerhunter's bradford cox had proceedings taken against him by Sony when he posted some demo-tapes and old cassettes to his blog...
he was infuriated - and rightly so.
What happens with many record contracts is the label owns the copyright and pays the artist a royalty, typically this is 12.5% of total revenue (not included is of course the publisher's cut, which is added to the price of the CD/mp3 you buy, this can change depending on the publisher and the format). Some artists negotiate certain things like artistic control in their contracts; this lowers the advance given to them by the record company but typically increases this royalty rate.
Depends on the contract you signed.Jaekus wrote:
"Your own music" is your property as soon as it is recorded - intellectual copyright.
Fuck Israel
I've already addressed this.
It is still your music, until you record it to become a commercially available product, depending on the clauses in the contract.
It is still your music, until you record it to become a commercially available product, depending on the clauses in the contract.
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Encore!Jaekus wrote:
I've already addressed this.
it depends a lot on tricky publishing deals, too... recording contracts aren't all... publishing is the other half.Jaekus wrote:
I've already addressed this.
It is still your music, until you record it to become a commercially available product, depending on the clauses in the contract.
as i said some high-profile artists have already got in trouble for releasing stuff that is technically, by legal clauses, the interest/property of a label.
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
Yeah, if there is an exclusivity clause or clauses that binds an artist into producing x amount of albums for their record company then they're kinda stuck. That can include not releasing singles for compilations, an example would be a song for a movie soundtrack.
But I guess my point is that you do own your own music at the point it is created, which needs to be proved by physical evidence, whether it be an audio recording or a written score or even a film of a live performance. From where it goes from there is of course dependant upon the situation your music is currently in (ie. contract/s).
But I guess my point is that you do own your own music at the point it is created, which needs to be proved by physical evidence, whether it be an audio recording or a written score or even a film of a live performance. From where it goes from there is of course dependant upon the situation your music is currently in (ie. contract/s).
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Nice try, RIAA.
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i pirate a lot of stuff, but that's mainly because not much is available/accessible for me where i live. i never pirated a game that's been up on steam, gog.com or other such service. the more stuff is there - the less i'll pirate. money i have, time to go around searching i don't.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
It doesn't really take balls of steal to purchase something...11 Bravo wrote:
its for fags who dont have the sack to pay for their stuff
hehe. nice pun.jord wrote:
It doesn't really take balls of steal to purchase something...11 Bravo wrote:
its for fags who dont have the sack to pay for their stuff
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Unless you've got some social phobias and it takes a lot of nerve to walk into a games/music/DVD shop.jord wrote:
It doesn't really take balls of steal to purchase something...11 Bravo wrote:
its for fags who dont have the sack to pay for their stuff
It was intentional...Shahter wrote:
hehe. nice pun.jord wrote:
It doesn't really take balls of steal to purchase something...11 Bravo wrote:
its for fags who dont have the sack to pay for their stuff
I swear
who said it did? i said balls.jord wrote:
It doesn't really take balls of steal to purchase something...11 Bravo wrote:
its for fags who dont have the sack to pay for their stuff
you dont have time to order off the internet? BS. the time it takes you to steal you can actually buy stuff ffs.Shahter wrote:
i pirate a lot of stuff, but that's mainly because not much is available/accessible for me where i live. i never pirated a game that's been up on steam, gog.com or other such service. the more stuff is there - the less i'll pirate. money i have, time to go around searching i don't.
try reading the post you reply to next time - it usually lets you post a meaningfull response.11 Bravo wrote:
you dont have time to order off the internet? BS. the time it takes you to steal you can actually buy stuff ffs.Shahter wrote:
i pirate a lot of stuff, but that's mainly because not much is available/accessible for me where i live. i never pirated a game that's been up on steam, gog.com or other such service. the more stuff is there - the less i'll pirate. money i have, time to go around searching i don't.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
you dont get mail? shipments?Shahter wrote:
try reading the post you reply to next time - it usually lets you post a meaningfull response.11 Bravo wrote:
you dont have time to order off the internet? BS. the time it takes you to steal you can actually buy stuff ffs.Shahter wrote:
i pirate a lot of stuff, but that's mainly because not much is available/accessible for me where i live. i never pirated a game that's been up on steam, gog.com or other such service. the more stuff is there - the less i'll pirate. money i have, time to go around searching i don't.
try being more clear you fucking twat
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He said he doesn't have time to search retailers...11 Bravo wrote:
you dont have time to order off the internet? BS. the time it takes you to steal you can actually buy stuff ffs.Shahter wrote:
i pirate a lot of stuff, but that's mainly because not much is available/accessible for me where i live. i never pirated a game that's been up on steam, gog.com or other such service. the more stuff is there - the less i'll pirate. money i have, time to go around searching i don't.
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me