this is exactly all i have said throughout this thread. then little shitstains like miggle that think they're 'smart' insist on digging back to 3 year old posts as if they're making a 'point' or contradicting anything i've said. no. you just haven't been reading, in all of your smug, smartarse, 'hurf durf im a pirate and im making a justifiable point!' swaggering. you're dumb fucks. admit that you not paying for something is legally and morally reprehensible. i don't care if you can't afford it, or if you're lazy, or if you don't deem certain artforms 'worthy' of payment. that's your problem and your culpability. don't make some bolshy criticism or throw some lame accusation at the artist/industry, as if it's soooo flawed.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I don't even really take issue with the act of pirating so much as the people who try to make excuses like "the artist doesn't get enough of the money from record sales". Just admit -
you're lazy
cheap
the media is too hard to find in traditional ways
or a combination of the above
You can take them for a perfectly legal test drive, though.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't think much of Fords.
Does this mean I can steal them out of the showroom to drive around for a bit to see if I'm wrong?
yeah, loaning a car for a 30 minute drive (covered by deposits and insurance in case you don't maintain your part of that business arrangement) is exactly the same as copying a file to your hard-drive and keeping it there, forever.liquidat0r wrote:
You can take them for a perfectly legal test drive, though.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't think much of Fords.
Does this mean I can steal them out of the showroom to drive around for a bit to see if I'm wrong?
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and you can listen to virtually any record on amazon, youtube, etc. before you buy the album.liquidat0r wrote:
You can take them for a perfectly legal test drive, though.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't think much of Fords.
Does this mean I can steal them out of the showroom to drive around for a bit to see if I'm wrong?
And the difference between downloading and bookmarking a song on youtube is... what exactly? In either case I can listen to it whenever I want without paying a cent.Uzique wrote:
yeah, loaning a car for a 30 hour drive is exactly the same as copying a file to your hard-drive and keeping it there, forever.liquidat0r wrote:
You can take them for a perfectly legal test drive, though.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't think much of Fords.
Does this mean I can steal them out of the showroom to drive around for a bit to see if I'm wrong?
You can listen to most tracks on youtube, I want't that car in my driveway for a year.liquidat0r wrote:
You can take them for a perfectly legal test drive, though.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't think much of Fords.
Does this mean I can steal them out of the showroom to drive around for a bit to see if I'm wrong?
Well, it was Dilbert, and he mentioned an American company... so I'm sure it was a comment on "lolololololololol American cars are shit". I'm sure it's there somewhereliquidat0r wrote:
I wasn't drawing any comparisons. I was just pointing out that you can in fact to what Dilbert said. Legally.
Because I didn't really get his point.
you know that youtube has a business model that gives cash to the record labels on license, right?JohnG@lt wrote:
And the difference between downloading and bookmarking a song on youtube is... what exactly? In either case I can listen to it whenever I want without paying a cent.Uzique wrote:
yeah, loaning a car for a 30 hour drive is exactly the same as copying a file to your hard-drive and keeping it there, forever.liquidat0r wrote:
You can take them for a perfectly legal test drive, though.
What's the difference between me bookmarking the youtube video or me having a copy stashed on my hard drive?Dilbert_X wrote:
You can listen to most tracks on youtube, I want't that car in my driveway for a year.liquidat0r wrote:
You can take them for a perfectly legal test drive, though.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't think much of Fords.
Does this mean I can steal them out of the showroom to drive around for a bit to see if I'm wrong?
on the likes of last.fm, amazon and itunes, yesliquidat0r wrote:
Do artists get royalties from people "test driving" albums on web stores?
he was countering the ludicrous "if it isn't to my taste, it doesn't deserve my money, anyway".liquidat0r wrote:
I wasn't drawing any comparisons. I was just pointing out that you can in fact to what Dilbert said. Legally.
Because I didn't really get his point.
Good for them. They've managed to squeeze more out of Youtube than they've ever gotten out of the radio industry. I'm still not paying either way.Uzique wrote:
you know that youtube has a business model that gives cash to the record labels on license, right?JohnG@lt wrote:
And the difference between downloading and bookmarking a song on youtube is... what exactly? In either case I can listen to it whenever I want without paying a cent.Uzique wrote:
yeah, loaning a car for a 30 hour drive is exactly the same as copying a file to your hard-drive and keeping it there, forever.
honestly you're not even making this argument difficult for me anymore
No, that wasn't my argument at all. Your argument was that all artists deserve to get paid and mentioned some bullshit about paying session musicians and a 750k bill like its my problem.Uzique wrote:
he was countering the ludicrous "if it isn't to my taste, it doesn't deserve my money, anyway".liquidat0r wrote:
I wasn't drawing any comparisons. I was just pointing out that you can in fact to what Dilbert said. Legally.
Because I didn't really get his point.
you can't rent a ferrari for a week and then keep it on the grounds that you think the handling is a little too snarky
You still haven't made an argument for me to refute. All you've said 'moral argument' 'burn in hell' 'starving artists' 'pay the man'.Uzique wrote:
great counter-argument, just as i expected
honestly why even bother when your argument is typical fucking hot air... this is all pirates ever come up with... vain and contrived excuses that soon fall flat under any real inspection.
Go sit in the parking lotDilbert_X wrote:
The argument doesn't amount to any more than "I don't want to pay so I'm not going to".
I'd like to go to a concert for free. Does it cost them any more if I go but don't pay? No.
Zero.Jaekus wrote:
Wait, your radio stations don't pay royalties???
pretty sure that every radio station needs some sort of broadcast license at the very least... and pays licensing/royalties to labelJohnG@lt wrote:
Zero.Jaekus wrote:
Wait, your radio stations don't pay royalties???
