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Macbeth
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Err I don't mean it like that..

I'm just really annoyed by the constant playing of the victim card by someone who is in an excellent place for people he likes to identify with.
Wreckognize
Member
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Macbeth wrote:

Some of you mock this idea. You live in a bubble where anti-Semitism at the University doesn’t exist, and despite all evidence pointing toward the affirmative, you close your eyes and you shut your mouths. Calling for the destruction of a Jewish state in Israel is anti-Semitism. A University official calling a student a “Zionist pig” and then encouraging other students to post hateful messages about him in order to have their “voice” heard is anti-Semitism. A University official starting a petition to censor a columnist because of his support for Israel is anti-Semitism. Threatening to harm another student because of their support for Israel is anti-Semitism. The Medium stealing the identity of a Jewish student to write a pro-Hitler column that possessed zero comedic value with the sole purpose to spew hatred is anti-Semitism. In fact, The Medium supported this claim last week when their paper made a “serious” statement on the cover that “Virtually every article that appears … is designed to entertain.” Notice their usage of the word “virtually” — not every article but “virtually” all are intended to entertain. Clearly one of those exceptions was their anti-Semitic diatribe that praised Hitler.
How accurate are these allegations?
Macbeth
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The only one as far as I know is the one dealing with the medium. It's a joke paper. Since the author is known for doing only batshit israel/jewish articles they decided to run a fake editorial by him where he praises Hitler. As for the others I don't know. He has been writing for the paper for three years so any of those other things could have happened it that time span.
CameronPoe
Member
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The international community has found various ways to pressure/marginalise Iran, North Korea, Myanmar, Zimbabwe, etc., some methods effective, some not so much. Globally, few people disagree that the state of Israel don't exactly adhere to the straight and narrow of international law. How can the world effectively apply pressure on Israel (in the same manner as pressure is applied to similarly unruly members of the international community like Iran) to get them to stop eating away at Palestine? Time is running out for Palestine. If hawkish right-wingers continue to occupy the political foreground in Israel for much longer the consequences could be dire - hopeless situations produce extreme responses, rightly or wrongly. Why does Israel seem to be exempt from the standards that others are held to? If the answer is realpolitik then that is extremely depressing. It would be nice if we could return to morals and principles.
CameronPoe
Member
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This forum isn't as responsive as it once was...
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,003|4078|London, England
That's because the solution is simple. Make it a single country, Have the international community put pressure on Israel to give Palestinians equal rights like that which was done to end Apartheid, and whoever breeds more wins.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
Banned
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Because it is really that simple.
CameronPoe
Member
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Jay wrote:

That's because the solution is simple. Make it a single country, Have the international community put pressure on Israel to give Palestinians equal rights like that which was done to end Apartheid, and whoever breeds more wins.
I'm honestly beginning to come to that conclusion myself. That is an absolutely off-limits concept to the right wing of Israel however (and Hamas obviously).

Last edited by CameronPoe (2012-04-19 11:37:03)

Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,003|4078|London, England
Have Bono Perform at a few benefit concerts And this thing is in the bag
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|5275

Jay wrote:

Have Bono Perform at a few benefit concerts And this thing is in the bag
lol. We'll give him the Nobel prize for tosspottery after.
13urnzz
Banned
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CameronPoe wrote:

This forum isn't as responsive as it once was...
the uneven moderation, the eventual maturity and sobriety of some of the membership, and simply the age of this forum.

Cam, you only log in once every 3 months yourself, and most of the people that drove d&st not at all . . .
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|5220|so randum
sobriety ahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
13urnzz
Banned
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i said "some". i didn't include us . . .
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,702|4825|eXtreme to the maX

Jay wrote:

That's because the solution is simple. Make it a single country, Have the international community put pressure on Israel to give Palestinians equal rights like that which was done to end Apartheid, and whoever breeds more wins.
That would need to be done before giving the Israelis the rest of Palestine.

Palestinians now living on land consumed by Israel are already suffering death by a thousand cuts, marginalised at every level, having their properties taken from them by the Israeli state, unable to lead lives remotely approaching those of jewish citizens and so on.

To force the remaining Palestinians to be consumed by Israel would be bizarre, like suggesting the best thing for Russia would have been to have been absorbed by the Axis and hope they would be treated nice in the interests of peace
Epstein didn't kill himself
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,702|4825|eXtreme to the maX
A University official starting a petition to censor a columnist because of his support for Israel is anti-Semitism.
Nope
Threatening to harm another student because of their support for Israel is anti-Semitism.
Nope.

The anti-semiticism card is overplayed, give it a rest now.
Epstein didn't kill himself
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|4719|...

CameronPoe wrote:

The international community has found various ways to pressure/marginalise Iran, North Korea, Myanmar, Zimbabwe, etc., some methods effective, some not so much. Globally, few people disagree that the state of Israel don't exactly adhere to the straight and narrow of international law. How can the world effectively apply pressure on Israel (in the same manner as pressure is applied to similarly unruly members of the international community like Iran) to get them to stop eating away at Palestine? Time is running out for Palestine. If hawkish right-wingers continue to occupy the political foreground in Israel for much longer the consequences could be dire - hopeless situations produce extreme responses, rightly or wrongly. Why does Israel seem to be exempt from the standards that others are held to? If the answer is realpolitik then that is extremely depressing. It would be nice if we could return to morals and principles.
That's exactly what's going on.

Once the western nations cease being the dominant powers in the world Israel is fucked though. They've politically and now physically (wall) isolated themselves from all of their neighbours. Merging Israel and Palestine will accomplish nothing.

Last edited by Shocking (2012-04-20 03:48:18)

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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+288|5495|Moscow, Russia

CameronPoe wrote:

How can the world effectively apply pressure on Israel (in the same manner as pressure is applied to similarly unruly members of the international community like Iran) to get them to stop eating away at Palestine?
taking out hamas would be the obvious first step. actually, it's waaaay overdue. the fact that nothing's done about those dickheads for so long, while saddam, taliban, mubarak and the likes are fucked up speaks volumes, imo - those in this world who could actually solve israel/palestine problem are not interested in doing so.

Last edited by Shahter (2012-04-20 05:52:57)

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,702|4825|eXtreme to the maX
To achieve peace the Israeli equivalent of Hamas - the settler movement and the people who back them - would have to be eliminated too.
Epstein didn't kill himself
Cheeky_Ninja06
Member
+52|5452|Cambridge, England
Mmm because kill the chief bad guys has worked so well in the past.

Nobody wants to get involved in Palestine because the Palestinians know all of the PR tricks for fighting in built up areas. Theyve been doing it against the Israelis for ever and whatever international force went in would be shafted. Likewise nobody is going to invade Israel because they have also been fighting forever and would have a massive home advantage, let alone nukes (possibly).

Last edited by Cheeky_Ninja06 (2012-04-20 14:31:33)

AussieReaper
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+5,760|4872|what

Palestinians know all the pr tricks? And how is that working for them?
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png

"coz you a far cry from acclaim nigga ubisoft"
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,822|5491|USA

It's unfair to Israel that victims get good PR.

Not to say that innocent Israelis, etc. haven't been killed by Palestinian attacks.
Cheeky_Ninja06
Member
+52|5452|Cambridge, England
Using ambulances as ammo dumps, massively photoshopped "destruction" images, videos of palestinians in a gun fight (with nobody else), Mock funerals, making a fuss over dead children to walk past the camera, then throwing the body on the floor.

Loads of things that would look really bad for an international invader / peace keeper / whatever.

Judging by this thread it is working pretty well..

Last edited by Cheeky_Ninja06 (2012-04-21 04:53:26)

Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,702|4825|eXtreme to the maX

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

Using ambulances as ammo dumps, massively photoshopped "destruction" images, videos of palestinians in a gun fight (with nobody else), Mock funerals, making a fuss over dead children to walk past the camera, then throwing the body on the floor.

Loads of things that would look really bad for an international invader / peace keeper / whatever.

Judging by this thread it is working pretty well..
So you're saying its all made up, Israel doesn't exist and they aren't ever expanding their settlements?
Epstein didn't kill himself
Cheeky_Ninja06
Member
+52|5452|Cambridge, England

Dilbert_X wrote:

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

Using ambulances as ammo dumps, massively photoshopped "destruction" images, videos of palestinians in a gun fight (with nobody else), Mock funerals, making a fuss over dead children to walk past the camera, then throwing the body on the floor.

Loads of things that would look really bad for an international invader / peace keeper / whatever.

Judging by this thread it is working pretty well..
So you're saying its all made up, Israel doesn't exist and they aren't ever expanding their settlements?
No. Im saying they are using events to their maximum pr advantage. Not that the events are not happening. Can find you a bucket load of evidence if you need. This is exactly the attitude that would destroy a western invasion / occupation.
AussieReaper
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+5,760|4872|what

Making a fuss over dead children then while the camera isn't looking throwing the body on the floor?

As if. You're downplaying the children and overplaying the relatives emotional distress. As if those children didn't have families and relatives who would mourn them.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png

"coz you a far cry from acclaim nigga ubisoft"

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