What are the differences? I mean really - apart from not having a nuclear-armed superpower backing them?Commie Killer wrote:
Did you honestly just compare the Israelis to the Nazis? Really? I mean really?Dilbert_X wrote:
We should have tried to see WW2 from the Nazis perspective too, they probably just wanted hugs.
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hard core zionism DID have some nazi influences. afaik israelites were the first to use "modern' terrorism techniques against the brits and the palestinians.Dilbert_X wrote:
What are the differences? I mean really - apart from not having a nuclear-armed superpower backing them?Commie Killer wrote:
Did you honestly just compare the Israelis to the Nazis? Really? I mean really?Dilbert_X wrote:
We should have tried to see WW2 from the Nazis perspective too, they probably just wanted hugs.
If you remember Zionism predates Nazism who copied who becomes more blurred and depends on which feature.
The world did nothing when Germany annexed Austria and Czechoslovakia. Simply put they were trying to appease Hitler and avoid another world war. Would that qualify as trying to see things from the German perspective? I don't know. However, comparing what is going on in Israel/Palestine with Hitlers policy of lebensraum is not apples to apples.Dilbert_X wrote:
No, you quoted a lot of spam, mostly quotes from Palestinians of 30+ years ago and some unrelated stuff from Iran.lowing wrote:
2. Already been over that '67 borders issue. I quoted a shit loaded of leaders that have clearly stated any negotiations would be a temp fix until the destruction of Israel can be achieved. '67 borders is not an option.We should have tried to see WW2 from the Nazis perspective too, they probably just wanted hugs.It isn't for us to decide if they are right or wrong. There are 2 sides to this story. Israel is not all wrong.
Not a direct comparison obviously but not much different.Kmar wrote:
The world did nothing when Germany annexed Austria and Czechoslovakia. Simply put they were trying to appease Hitler and avoid another world war. Would that qualify as trying to see things from the German perspective? I don't know. However, comparing what is going on in Israel/Palestine with Hitlers policy of lebensraum is not apples to apples.Dilbert_X wrote:
No, you quoted a lot of spam, mostly quotes from Palestinians of 30+ years ago and some unrelated stuff from Iran.lowing wrote:
2. Already been over that '67 borders issue. I quoted a shit loaded of leaders that have clearly stated any negotiations would be a temp fix until the destruction of Israel can be achieved. '67 borders is not an option.We should have tried to see WW2 from the Nazis perspective too, they probably just wanted hugs.It isn't for us to decide if they are right or wrong. There are 2 sides to this story. Israel is not all wrong.
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oh please. blocking action lol. if euro land or china wanted to invade israel they could. they dont give a fuck about the pals, dilbert. get that thru your head. hell even arabs dont care since they dont lift a finger. only nerds on forums cry about it.Dilbert_X wrote:
'The world' is currently doing nothing at all while Israel annexes Palestine - thanks to the USA blocking any action.
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Wrong on both counts.11 Bravo wrote:
they, like you, just hate jews.
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well duh ofc they doPug wrote:
really? so the arabs really like israel and everything they do is to mend the peace?
Uhhh check the dates on that "spam"... Not sure how quotes are spam but oh well. Oh wait, they go against what you say they think...never mind.Dilbert_X wrote:
No, you quoted a lot of spam, mostly quotes from Palestinians of 30+ years ago and some unrelated stuff from Iran.lowing wrote:
2. Already been over that '67 borders issue. I quoted a shit loaded of leaders that have clearly stated any negotiations would be a temp fix until the destruction of Israel can be achieved. '67 borders is not an option.We should have tried to see WW2 from the Nazis perspective too, they probably just wanted hugs.It isn't for us to decide if they are right or wrong. There are 2 sides to this story. Israel is not all wrong.
AP wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel said Sunday it has approved hundreds of settler homes after five members of an Israeli family — including three children — were knifed to death as they slept in a West Bank settlement over the weekend.
The attack and the government's response threatened to drive Israeli-Palestinian peacemaking even further out of reach. Israel, which blames the attack on Palestinian militants, is liable to set aside an emerging peace initiative it had planned to propose, while the planned construction of new settler homes only deepened Palestinian mistrust of Israel.
The settlement construction, approved Saturday night by the Cabinet's ministerial team on settlements, would take place in major West Bank settlement blocs that Israel expects to hold on to in any final peace deal, the prime minister's office said in a text message to reporters. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is under domestic pressure to respond harshly to the killings, is a member of that team.
A government official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release this information to the media, said between 300 and 500 apartments and homes were approved for construction.
Yer right, the Islamic and Arab world are very good at that.Dilbert_X wrote:
They provoke, they wail about the response to the provocation and then provoke some more.
You really should try a history book sometime.lowing wrote:
Yer right, the Islamic and Arab world are very good at that.Dilbert_X wrote:
They provoke, they wail about the response to the provocation and then provoke some more.
"stabbing children to death is ok"Dilbert_X wrote:
They provoke, they wail about the response to the provocation and then provoke some more.
Sorry, you think massing against Israeli borders with tanks and armies, and cutting off water ways and declaring you are going to attack at dawn, is not a provocation. I forgot.Dilbert_X wrote:
You really should try a history book sometime.lowing wrote:
Yer right, the Islamic and Arab world are very good at that.Dilbert_X wrote:
They provoke, they wail about the response to the provocation and then provoke some more.
History doesn't begin with 9/11.
You need to look at the history before that to have an understanding.lowing wrote:
Sorry, you think massing against Israeli borders with tanks and armies, and cutting off water ways and declaring you are going to attack at dawn, is not a provocation. I forgot.Dilbert_X wrote:
You really should try a history book sometime.lowing wrote:
Yer right, the Islamic and Arab world are very good at that.
History doesn't begin with 9/11.
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Ohh I thought I was just supposed to look back before 9/11.Dilbert_X wrote:
You need to look at the history before that to have an understanding.lowing wrote:
Sorry, you think massing against Israeli borders with tanks and armies, and cutting off water ways and declaring you are going to attack at dawn, is not a provocation. I forgot.Dilbert_X wrote:
You really should try a history book sometime.
History doesn't begin with 9/11.
Israeli history doesn't begin with Israel being attacked 'for no reason by teh evul moosulums'.
No, I'd go back to pre-1900 when the Zionists formed their plan to invade Palestine and expel the Palestinians at gun-point.lowing wrote:
Ohh I thought I was just supposed to look back before 9/11.Dilbert_X wrote:
You need to look at the history before that to have an understanding.lowing wrote:
Sorry, you think massing against Israeli borders with tanks and armies, and cutting off water ways and declaring you are going to attack at dawn, is not a provocation. I forgot.
Israeli history doesn't begin with Israel being attacked 'for no reason by teh evul moosulums'.
So when do you wanna go back to? When Israel became a sovereign nation, recognized by the world then declared war on the very next day by "teh evul moosulums'"?
time to put this bullshit to rest Dilbert, we can go back to the beginning of time and still not determine who has claim to what land. Fact is Israel is a sliver of land compared to the entire ME. and still it is too much for the Arab and Islamic states to let them live in. Compromise and land partitions have been drawn up only to be rejected by the Arabs and Islamic nations, instead choosing to drive Israel into the sea, unsuccessfully.Dilbert_X wrote:
No, I'd go back to pre-1900 when the Zionists formed their plan to invade Palestine and expel the Palestinians at gun-point.lowing wrote:
Ohh I thought I was just supposed to look back before 9/11.Dilbert_X wrote:
You need to look at the history before that to have an understanding.
Israeli history doesn't begin with Israel being attacked 'for no reason by teh evul moosulums'.
So when do you wanna go back to? When Israel became a sovereign nation, recognized by the world then declared war on the very next day by "teh evul moosulums'"?
