Balance North Carolina Budget

2011-02-17 09:24:05

#1

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6842|Mountains of NC

Balance the budget of North Carolina

Its a fun little challenge

Start out with : Deficit: $2,400,000,000

mine was

Surplus : $1,343,500,000
Cuts : $1,443,500,000
New Money : $2,300,000,000

Education :
Increased Uni class size by 3 students
Flex Uni reduction of 10%
Eliminate all Ass. Principals in Elementry Schools

Social Services :
Eliminate Transplant services
Eliminate adult dental and dentures services

Public Safety :
Reduce court system budget by 10%

General Gov. :
Lay off 3% of state employees

Jobs NOW:
Eliminate funding for economic development non-profit organzations

Other :
Begin charging employees $20 monthly fee for health insurance
Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees
Reorganize goverment by consolidating agencies and programs, privatizing functions, and reducing layers of middle management
Flex reduction of 5% for all non education, human service and public safety agencies

Money :
Keep one cent sales tax
Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton
Regulate video lotto terminals

I cut 13,000 jobs .... But brought in 400,000 people to NC, put 25,000 new ppl through Uni., put 15,000 new ppl though community college, put 5,000 new ppl though school system

Last edited by SEREMAKER (2011-02-17 09:42:27)

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2011-02-17 09:40:53

#2

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6404|North Tonawanda, NY

My Proposal
Education

* Increase community college class size by three students
* Raise community college tuition by $10 per hour/$320 per year
* Raise university tuition by 10 per hour/$300 per year
* Increase university class size by three students

Social Services

* Eliminate adult dental and denture services

Public Safety

General Government

JobsNOW

* Eliminate funding for economic development non-profit organizations
* Attract new jobs by cutting the corporate income tax to make it lowest in the southeast

Other

* Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
* Begin charging active employees and retirees a $20 monthly fee for health insurance

Money

* Keep one cent sales tax
* Regulate video lottery terminals
* Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton

2011-02-17 09:46:47

#3

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6923

Education
Increase all K-12 classes by one student
Provide a 3 percent raise for teachers
Give students who meet certain academic requirements a $2,000 scholarship for college
Raise community college tuition by $10 per hour/$320 per year
Increase community college class size by one student
Raise university tuition by 10 per hour/$300 per year
Increase university class size by one student

Social Services
Increase grant funding for nonprofits that serve the poor and disabled
Realize savings from current initiatives to eliminate fraud, waste and abuse
Public Safety
Release 2,000 prisoners (5 percent of population)

General Government
Lay off three percent of state employees
Reduce state employee pay by 1 percent

JobsNOW
Attract new jobs by cutting the corporate income tax to make it lowest in the southeast
Increase funding for marketing NC products and businesses overseas
Increase the amount of economic incentives for companies that expand or relocate to NC

Other
Begin charging active employees and retirees a $20 monthly fee for health insurance
Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees

Money
Regulate video lottery terminals
Keep one cent sales tax
Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton
Sell ABC System to private vendors (one time revenue)

Boom, $606,100,000 surplus. 11,472 people lose their jobs, but fuck those guys.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2011-02-17 09:58:06)

2011-02-17 09:47:45

#4

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5860

Surplus: $382,500,000
Cuts: $2,082,500,000
New Money: $2,300,000,000
Education

* Increase university class size by three students
* Raise university tuition by 10 per hour/$300 per year
* Increase community college class size by three students
* Give students who meet certain academic requirements a $2,000 scholarship for college
* Eliminate all assistant principals in elementary schools
* Increase all K-12 classes by one student
* Reduce Low Wealth Funds for Poor Counties by 50 percent
* Raise community college tuition by $20 per hour/$640 per year

Social Services

* Eliminate adult dental and denture services
* Eliminate transplant services
* Reduce hospice services
* Realize savings from current initiatives to eliminate fraud, waste and abuse
* Reduce community mental health funds by 10 percent
* Reduce child care subsidies by 50 percent

Public Safety

* Release 4,000 prisoners (10 percent of population)
* Eliminate prisoner alcohol and substance abuse services
* Reduce court system budget (judges, clerks, prosecutors) by 10 percent
* Eliminate adult and juvenile crime prevention funds

General Government

* Reduce state employee pay by 1 percent
* Lay off three percent of state employees

JobsNOW

* Attract new jobs by eliminating the corporate income tax
* Attract new jobs by cutting the corporate income tax to make it lowest in the southeast
* Increase the amount of economic incentives for companies that expand or relocate to NC

Other

* Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
* Begin charging active employees and retirees a $20 monthly fee for health insurance
* Flex reduction of 20 percent for all non education, human service and public safety agencies
* Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees

Money

* Regulate video lottery terminals
* Keep one cent sales tax
* Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton

* Our population has grown by 400,000 people
* Our community colleges have enrolled 52,000 new students
* Our university enrollment has grown by 12,000
* And our public schools educate 5,000 more children

Jobs Cut: 22,411

My initial proposal I could tinker with it but eh

Last edited by Macbeth (2011-02-17 09:48:13)

2011-02-17 09:57:02

#5

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6923

I would have released more prisoners, but I figure at least 5% has gotta be in there for stupid shit like smoking pot, but I wouldn't know about 10%. That said, with the highest incarceration rates in the world it's probably over 10%.

2011-02-17 09:57:15

#6

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5973

My Proposal
Education

* Increase all K-12 classes by two students
* Provide a 3 percent raise for teachers
* Give students who meet certain academic requirements a $2,000 scholarship for college
* Increase community college class size by three students
* Raise university tuition by 10 per hour/$300 per year
* Increase university class size by three students

Social Services

* Eliminate adult dental and denture services
* Increase grant funding for nonprofits that serve the poor and disabled

Public Safety

* Reduce court system budget (judges, clerks, prosecutors) by 10 percent
* Release 4,000 prisoners (10 percent of population)

General Government

* Reduce state employee pay by 1 percent

JobsNOW

* Attract new jobs by cutting the corporate income tax to make it lowest in the southeast
* Increase funding for marketing NC products and businesses overseas

Other

* Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees
* Begin charging active employees and retirees a $20 monthly fee for health insurance
* Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
* Flex reduction of 5 percent for all non education, human service and public safety agencies

Money

* Keep one cent sales tax
* Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton

# Deficit: $65,100,000 [?]
# Surplus: $0 [?]
# Cuts: $1,352,900,000 [?]
# New Money: $1,600,000,000

Sure we still have a $65+ million dolllar deficit but at least I'm going to be re-elected next term!

I would love to have something like this for New York.

2011-02-17 10:00:02

#7

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5860

13/f/taiwan wrote:
Sure we still have a $65+ million dolllar deficit but at least I'm going to be re-elected next term!

I would love to have something like this for New York.

States can't run deficits. Your state just defaulted \o/

2011-02-17 10:13:33

#8

13rin: Member; +977|6753

# Surplus: $152,400,000
# Cuts: $2,827,400,000
# New Money: $800,000,000

Education

* Flexible university reduction of 10 percent
* Increase university class size by three students
* Raise university tuition by 10 per hour/$300 per year
* Increase all K-12 classes by three students
* Eliminate all teacher assistants in grades K-3

Social Services

* Eliminate adult dental and denture services
* Reduce occupational, speech and audiologic services to most severe cases
* Reduce community mental health funds by 10 percent
* Reduce Smart Start services for children by 50 percent
* Reduce child care subsidies by 10 percent

Public Safety

* Release 4,000 prisoners (10 percent of population)
* Eliminate prisoner alcohol and substance abuse services
* Eliminate adult and juvenile crime prevention funds

General Government

* Lay off three percent of state employees
* Reduce state employee pay by 1 percent

JobsNOW

* Increase funding for tourism marketing
* Increase the amount of economic incentives for companies that expand or relocate to NC
* Attract new jobs by eliminating the corporate income tax

Other

* Begin charging active employees and retirees a $20 monthly fee for health insurance
* Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees
* Flex reduction of 20 percent for all non education, human service and public safety agencies
* Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management

Money

* Regulate video lottery terminals

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-02-17 10:18:06

#9

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5973

ghettoperson wrote:
I would have released more prisoners, but I figure at least 5% has gotta be in there for stupid shit like smoking pot, but I wouldn't know about 10%. That said, with the highest incarceration rates in the world it's probably over 10%.

nah, smoking pot gets you a a day or two in booking and the DA will either dismiss the charges or lower the charge to disorderly conduct($200 fee in NY). and if it's your first time they will give you two days of community service and tell you to stay out of trouble for 6 months.

but yeah, most people in prison are in for drug offenses. since the whole "war on drugs" jail/prison populations have skyrocketed in the past few decades. and guess what, north carolina has the 8th largest budget for corrections. i would legalize weed and put pressure on the courts to not sentence small time drug offenders to prison but charge them a small fine. get rid of determinate sentences so people are eligible for parole earlier. this should definitely help.

2011-02-17 10:26:27

#10

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6774|so randum

might be wrong, but doesnt the 'three strikes' thingy mean that literally some people are in serving 10+ years for smoking pot?

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2011-02-17 10:30:54

#11

13rin: Member; +977|6753

FatherTed wrote:
might be wrong, but doesnt the 'three strikes' thingy mean that literally some people are in serving 10+ years for smoking pot?

yea..

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-02-17 10:34:23

#12

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6774|so randum

well thats a bit silly

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2011-02-17 10:36:16

#13

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6895|London, England

I wouldn't be able to make an informed decision about the budget until I knew all the details.

Like who's funding me for my next election campaign and how does this affect them, how will my core voters react etc.... don't bring logic and sensibility into my politics. This is democracy god damnit.

2011-02-17 10:40:10

#14

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6955|Disaster Free Zone

Education

Social Services

Public Safety

General Government

JobsNOW

Other

* Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
* Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees

Money

* Regulate video lottery terminals
* Keep one cent sales tax
* Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton

How your proposed budget impacts North Carolina
Other

# Surplus: $48,000,000
# Cuts: $248,000,000
# New Money: $2,200,000,000
* Jobs Cut:894

2011-02-17 10:50:18

#15

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5973

FatherTed wrote:
might be wrong, but doesnt the 'three strikes' thingy mean that literally some people are in serving 10+ years for smoking pot?

no. the gov't wont waste resources putting someone in prison for 10+ years because they smoked pot. that's ludicrous. "three strikes" only applies to felonies. for the most part, pot is decriminalized in the united states. usually the most it can get you is up to 1 year in jail(misdemeanor). even then we're not really throwing hundreds of people in jail/prison because they smoked a little pot or were carrying a dime bag.

2011-02-17 10:50:35

#16

13rin: Member; +977|6753

FatherTed wrote:
well thats a bit silly

It's a fucking travesty of justice.

On education, class size doesn't matter. Florida is finding that out now.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-02-17 10:51:09

#17

13rin: Member; +977|6753

13/f/taiwan wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
might be wrong, but doesnt the 'three strikes' thingy mean that literally some people are in serving 10+ years for smoking pot?
no. the gov't wont waste resources putting someone in prison for 10+ years because they smoked pot. that's ludicrous. "three strikes" only applies to felonies. for the most part, pot is decriminalized in the united states. usually the most it can get you is up to 1 year in jail(misdemeanor). even then we're not really throwing hundreds of people in jail/prison because they smoked a little pot or were carrying a dime bag.

Depends on where you live.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-02-17 10:54:19

#18

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5973

i'll agree that there is something seriously wrong when states(e.g. california) pays more for prisons than education.

@db, i'm talking about recreational use. not selling/buying in large quantities.

Last edited by 13/f/taiwan (2011-02-17 10:58:33)

2011-02-17 10:56:18

#19

mikkel: Member; +383|6875

That's about as reasonable as I can make it, but the ramifications are still a bit unpleasant. Left a $40 million buffer to cover, at least in part, the inevitable overestimation of savings and underestimation of costs. I'd like to see more options for reductions in the prison system. Absurdly long prison sentences cost a whole lot of money to enforce, and don't really do much to deter crime.

Surplus: $38,300,000
Cuts: $1,423,300,000
New Money: $1,100,000,000

Education - Budget Cuts: $651,300,000 / Jobs Cut: 9,953
Social Services - Budget Cuts: $179,000,000 / Jobs Cut: 0
General Government - Budget Cuts: $345,000,000 / Jobs Cut: 4,500
Other - Budget Cuts: $248,000,000 / Jobs Cut: 894

Education
- Eliminate all assistant principals in elementary schools
- Increase community college class size by two students
- Increase university class size by two students
- Provide a 3 percent raise for teachers
- Increase all K-12 classes by two students
- Give students who meet certain academic requirements a $2,000 scholarship for college

Social Services
- Realize savings from current initiatives to eliminate fraud, waste and abuse
- Eliminate adult dental and denture services
- Reduce Smart Start services for children by 50 percent

Public Safety

General Government
- Lay off three percent of state employees
- Reduce state employee pay by 1 percent

JobsNOW

Other
- Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
- Begin charging active employees and retirees a $20 monthly fee for health insurance
- Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees

Money
- Keep one cent sales tax

Last edited by mikkel (2011-02-17 11:00:29)

2011-02-17 14:26:27

#20

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5632|London, England

Education

* Increase all K-12 classes by three students
* Give students who meet certain academic requirements a $2,000 scholarship for college
* Raise community college tuition by $10 per hour/$320 per year
* Increase community college class size by three students
* Raise university tuition by 30 per hour/$900 per year
* Flexible university reduction of 5 percent
* Flexible reduction of 5 percent

Social Services

* Realize savings from current initiatives to eliminate fraud, waste and abuse
* Reduce community mental health funds by 10 percent

Public Safety

* Eliminate prisoner alcohol and substance abuse services

General Government

* Lay off three percent of state employees

JobsNOW

* Eliminate funding for economic development non-profit organizations
* Attract new jobs by cutting the corporate income tax to make it lowest in the southeast
* Increase funding for marketing NC products and businesses overseas

Other

* Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
* Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees
* Begin charging active employees and retirees a $20 monthly fee for health insurance

Money

* Keep one cent sales tax
* Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton
* Sell ABC System to private vendors (one time revenue)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-02-17 14:35:35

#21

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6742

Education

* Increase university class size by three students

Social Services

* Increase grant funding for nonprofits that serve the poor and disabled

Public Safety

* Release 4,000 prisoners (10 percent of population)

General Government

* Reduce state employee pay by 1 percent

JobsNOW

Other

* Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
* Flex reduction of 5 percent for all non education, human service and public safety agencies

Money

* Regulate video lottery terminals
* Keep one cent sales tax
* Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton

You Balanced the Budget
Jobs Cut: 6,185

Fuck smokers.

2011-02-17 14:40:55

#22

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6923

JohnG@lt wrote:
Education

* Increase all K-12 classes by three students
* Give students who meet certain academic requirements a $2,000 scholarship for college
* Raise community college tuition by $10 per hour/$320 per year
* Increase community college class size by three students
* Raise university tuition by 30 per hour/$900 per year
* Flexible university reduction of 5 percent
* Flexible reduction of 5 percent

Social Services

* Realize savings from current initiatives to eliminate fraud, waste and abuse
* Reduce community mental health funds by 10 percent

Public Safety

* Eliminate prisoner alcohol and substance abuse services

General Government

* Lay off three percent of state employees

JobsNOW

* Eliminate funding for economic development non-profit organizations
* Attract new jobs by cutting the corporate income tax to make it lowest in the southeast
* Increase funding for marketing NC products and businesses overseas

Other

* Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
* Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees
* Begin charging active employees and retirees a $20 monthly fee for health insurance

Money

* Keep one cent sales tax
* Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton
* Sell ABC System to private vendors (one time revenue)

Woah, the guy who does nothing but bitch about tobacco tax and peoples freedom to kill themselves wants to increase the tax on tobacco?

2011-02-17 14:46:27

#23

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5632|London, England

ghettoperson wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Education

* Increase all K-12 classes by three students
* Give students who meet certain academic requirements a $2,000 scholarship for college
* Raise community college tuition by $10 per hour/$320 per year
* Increase community college class size by three students
* Raise university tuition by 30 per hour/$900 per year
* Flexible university reduction of 5 percent
* Flexible reduction of 5 percent

Social Services

* Realize savings from current initiatives to eliminate fraud, waste and abuse
* Reduce community mental health funds by 10 percent

Public Safety

* Eliminate prisoner alcohol and substance abuse services

General Government

* Lay off three percent of state employees

JobsNOW

* Eliminate funding for economic development non-profit organizations
* Attract new jobs by cutting the corporate income tax to make it lowest in the southeast
* Increase funding for marketing NC products and businesses overseas

Other

* Reorganize government by consolidating agencies and programs; privatizing functions; and reducing layers of middle management
* Implement early retirement incentive program for teachers and state employees
* Begin charging active employees and retirees a $20 monthly fee for health insurance

Money

* Keep one cent sales tax
* Increase the tobacco tax to $1 per carton
* Sell ABC System to private vendors (one time revenue)
Woah, the guy who does nothing but bitch about tobacco tax and peoples freedom to kill themselves wants to increase the tax on tobacco?

$1 a carton. $0.10 a pack. Cigarettes in North Carolina cost about $3.50 per pack. Cigarettes in New York cost $12.50 per pack. A $0.10 tax is reasonable. $9.00 is not.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-02-17 14:46:40

#24

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5453|Sydney

* Reduce community mental health funds by 10 percent

Mental health is typically one of the most under funded sectors, and they want to cut it? Imbeciles.

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2011-02-17 14:46:56

#25

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6380|eXtreme to the maX

Eliminate all Ass.

I see the flaw in your plan right here.

Fuck Israel

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