Hunter/Jumper
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Despite the old saying, "Don't cry over spilled milk," the Environmental Protection Agency is doing just that.
We all understand why the Environmental Protection Agency was given the power to issue regulations to guard against oil spills, such as that of the Exxon Valdez in Alaska or the more recent BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. But not everyone understands that any power given to any bureaucracy for any purpose can be stretched far beyond that purpose.
In a classic example of this process, the EPA has decided that, since milk contains oil, it has the authority to force farmers to comply with new regulations to file "emergency management" plans to show how they will cope with spilled milk, how farmers will train "first responders" and build "containment facilities" if there is a flood of spilled milk.
Since there is no free lunch, all of this is going to cost the farmers both money and time that could be going into farming and is likely to end up costing consumers higher prices for farm products.
It is going to cost the taxpayers money as well, since the EPA is going to have to hire people to inspect farms, inspect farmers' reports and prosecute farmers who don't jump through all the right hoops in the right order. All of this will be "creating jobs," even if the tax money removed from the private sector correspondingly reduces the jobs that can be created there.
Does anyone seriously believe that any farmer is going to spill enough milk to compare with the Exxon Valdez oil spill or the BP oil spill?
Do you envision people fleeing their homes, as a flood of milk comes pouring down the mountainside, threatening to wipe out the village below?
It doesn't matter. Once the words are in the law, it makes no difference what the realities are. The bureaucracy has every incentive to stretch the meaning of those words, in order to expand its empire
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php … -seriously

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2011-02-02 20:44:20)

tuckergustav
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Do you have a link? Do they talk about the environmental implications of the spilled milk?  I am curious as to what harm it actually does.
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13rin
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They're getting neutered by the legislature this year.  Hahaha.  Bout' time.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
AussieReaper
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There are many who believe the EPA are responsible for the death of so many bee colonies in the US right now because they turned a blind eye to so much already.

But spilt milk? lol
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Hunter/Jumper
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I see " hundreds of cats released from the city pound ~ saving the Day ! "

Now we have to find just the right actors to play the animals voices in the Disney cartoon movie.  " MILKSPILL "
tuckergustav
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Well, I know that the regulations are upheld differently from state to state.  Some have more incentive to let things slide...seems as if the farm lobby wasn't that strong this time?

I think that part of what they are worried about is E. Coli getting into the water system.  That is a pretty legitimate concern,

The EPA isn't just there to deal with HUGE disasters.  It is there to ensure that our natural resources are not compromised...all of them.

I don't see that this is such a big deal...maybe let it ease into affect?  Big farms do cause a lot of damage to the environment around them as it is.  I think it is reasonable to ask that farmers have some response plan.  Not a big deal.
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unnamednewbie13
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I don't think the EPA cares about a toppled bucket. It's the giant vats they're probably aiming at, and if you can afford to build facilities to house those, you can afford proper cleanup prep. Now's probably not the time to be implementing such measures, considering the tight margin farms and businesses dealing with farms are running on.
Hunter/Jumper
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yep, Giant vats of milk, Plus loose cows running around spraying people with un-pasteurized milk.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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I think the bigger news is that milk has fucking oil in it.
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tuckergustav
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I don't think the EPA cares about a toppled bucket. It's the giant vats they're probably aiming at, and if you can afford to build facilities to house those, you can afford proper cleanup prep. Now's probably not the time to be implementing such measures, considering the tight margin farms and businesses dealing with farms are running on.
true...

I think the EPA stated that they would probably push back the date for this reason.
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SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6404|North Tonawanda, NY

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

I think the bigger news is that milk has fucking oil in it.
It's because it contains a certain amount of animal fat, which they consider to be a non-petroleum oil.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5976|College Park, MD

SenorToenails wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

I think the bigger news is that milk has fucking oil in it.
It's because it contains a certain amount of animal fat, which they consider to be a non-petroleum oil.
Oh. That's kinda silly. Guess if i spill a bottle of olive oil i better call the EPA.
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tuckergustav
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They aren't talking about a gallon of milk here...they are talking about about 25,000 gallon(or 100000 litres) silos.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Its lucky people like H/J have the EPA to look out for them.
Fuck Israel
Hunter/Jumper
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Its lucky people like H/J have the EPA to look out for them.
only a lib would tremble over a milk tank exploding.  they just have a berms around them incase they leak. done nbd. Farmers have been farming for quite some time without the EPA to save they day.

The topic ( and I am not surprised you missed it in your zeal to insult ) was that

any power given to any bureaucracy for any purpose can be stretched far beyond that purpose.

All of this is going to cost the farmers both money and time that could be going into farming and is likely to end up costing consumers higher prices for farm products. It is going to cost the taxpayers money as well, since the EPA is going to have to hire people to inspect farms, inspect farmers' reports and prosecute farmers who don't jump through all the right hoops in the right order.

All of this will be reported as "creating jobs," even if the tax money removed from the private sector correspondingly reduces the jobs that can be created there. "

It is also money wasted. IE Yes I want a heated Garage, The cost doesn't merit its usefulness. You get it I am sure.

Now call me a knee jerk reactionary marching in lock step listening to and parroting  etc. .   .     .

Oh wait that is Joe J@RK's tag line.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2011-02-04 07:04:42)

Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5632|London, England

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Its lucky people like H/J have the EPA to look out for them.
only a lib would tremble over a milk tank exploding.  they just have a berms around them incase they leak. done nbd. Farmers have been farming for quite some time without the epa to save they day. the topic ( and I am not suprised you missed it in your zeal to insult ) was that any power given to any bureaucracy for any purpose can be stretched far beyond that purpose.

All of this is going to cost the farmers both money and time that could be going into farming and is likely to end up costing consumers higher prices for farm products.
It is going to cost the taxpayers money as well, since the EPA is going to have to hire people to inspect farms, inspect farmers' reports and prosecute farmers who don't jump through all the right hoops in the right order. All of this will be "creating jobs," even if the tax money removed from the private sector correspondingly reduces the jobs that can be created there. "

Now call me a knee jerk reactionary marching in lock step etc. .   .     .
How about I call you a moron? I've tried very hard to skip over your posts because the stupidity is astounding. I've had enough. Stop posting. You're dropping the collective IQ of this section by at least ten points single handedly.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5310|Massachusetts, USA
His posts are comparable to Shifty's posts in terms of hilarity.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5632|London, England

UnkleRukus wrote:

His posts are comparable to Shifty's posts in terms of hilarity.
When lowing bitches about the younger generations being retarded, he should be pointing the finger at retarded people that reproduce. Any kid HJ has is absolutely fucked in life.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Hunter/Jumper
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shouldn't you clowns be sniffling over the italics ?

how are the "hidden weapons" you carry working out for you rukus lol

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2011-02-04 07:12:53)

UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5310|Massachusetts, USA

JohnG@lt wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

His posts are comparable to Shifty's posts in terms of hilarity.
When lowing bitches about the younger generations being retarded, he should be pointing the finger at retarded people that reproduce. Any kid HJ has is absolutely fucked in life.
What would we do in life if we didn't have people to laugh at though?
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Hunter/Jumper
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Its lucky people like H/J have the EPA to look out for them.
only a lib would tremble over a milk tank exploding.  they just have a berms around them incase they leak. done nbd. Farmers have been farming for quite some time without the epa to save they day. the topic ( and I am not surprised you missed it in your zeal to insult ) was that any power given to any bureaucracy for any purpose can be stretched far beyond that purpose.

All of this is going to cost the farmers both money and time that could be going into farming and is likely to end up costing consumers higher prices for farm products.
It is going to cost the taxpayers money as well, since the EPA is going to have to hire people to inspect farms, inspect farmers' reports and prosecute farmers who don't jump through all the right hoops in the right order. All of this will be "creating jobs," even if the tax money removed from the private sector correspondingly reduces the jobs that can be created there. "

Now call me a knee jerk reactionary marching in lock step etc. .   .     .
How about I call you a moron? I've tried very hard to skip over your posts because the stupidity is astounding. I've had enough. Stop posting. You're dropping the collective IQ of this section by at least ten points single handedly.
boy right on time as if on Que..

Attack the messenger not the message. As usual you don't have a useful observation and didn't point out any new perspective or add anything of value. Thats Joe J@RK for you. Now you said you were going to The university of Chicago ? will your affiliation with that institution involve a leaf blower or line trimmer ?
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5632|London, England

UnkleRukus wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

His posts are comparable to Shifty's posts in terms of hilarity.
When lowing bitches about the younger generations being retarded, he should be pointing the finger at retarded people that reproduce. Any kid HJ has is absolutely fucked in life.
What would we do in life if we didn't have people to laugh at though?
It's not something I really get off on.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Hunter/Jumper
Member
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UnkleRukus wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

His posts are comparable to Shifty's posts in terms of hilarity.
When lowing bitches about the younger generations being retarded, he should be pointing the finger at retarded people that reproduce. Any kid HJ has is absolutely fucked in life.
What would we do in life if we didn't have people to laugh at though?
in your case, just keep mopping up.
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5310|Massachusetts, USA

JohnG@lt wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


When lowing bitches about the younger generations being retarded, he should be pointing the finger at retarded people that reproduce. Any kid HJ has is absolutely fucked in life.
What would we do in life if we didn't have people to laugh at though?
It's not something I really get off on.
Everyone finds humor in someone elses humiliation, in one way or another.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Hunter/Jumper
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JohnG@lt wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


When lowing bitches about the younger generations being retarded, he should be pointing the finger at retarded people that reproduce. Any kid HJ has is absolutely fucked in life.
What would we do in life if we didn't have people to laugh at though?
It's not something I really get off on.
No  not really  J@RK

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