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Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
You're right, I do assume it is fictional. Maybe the Gospel should be taken more seriously? The Bible is a collection of stories written years after the event, is my point.-Sh1fty- wrote:
You don't know if it's fictional or not. You assume it is fictional.AussieReaper wrote:
Source your material are we will debate better.
Please note "The Bible" is not a source. Fictional materials may not be used as evidence.
Well here's the thing guys, tonight I have Bible study so you can expect a veryyyyyy long reply to dayarath's TL:DR text (No, I did read it).
So get some popcorn.
As for dayarath text... Print it, give it your to your teachers, ask for opinion. Post results.
I like how you're so openmided though.
fuck me it's like jamdude all over again
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
maybe you guys should stop acting like cunts?
You guys keep trying to figure out who the heck I am. I've mentioned bits and parts around EE and D&ST but nobody puts 2+2 together. When I'm on break between L4D2, CiV, BF-H, etc. (the two minutes between maps, turns, etc.) I like to come in here during that boring time and fk around. Other times I post intelligent things when I'm actually visiting BF2s instead of "Stopping by." Getting reactions from you guys is as funny as lying to kids and seeing them take it all seriously.AussieReaper wrote:
I like how you're so openmided though.
Anyway, I'll have a TL;DR by 9PM Pacific Time to debate with Dayarath.
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Oh I forgot to mention, I will try to make a link between the scriptures in the KJV Bible and some of my facts. Those of you who are too stubborn to stop and think for a second will dismiss it as stupidity but those of you with a brain should be able to notice it's pretty mind blowing that these thousands of year old texts could have information that relates to science nowadays they couldn't have possibly guessed back in the day.
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And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
i can twist words and phrases any way i like, it doesn't make the earth 4000 years old
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
People think Earth started around 2000BC? I was unaware of this.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
the bible if taken literally predicts that the earth was created c. 4000BC. 6000 years, same order of magnitude. the point remains.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Young Earth Creationists believe it to be between 6000 and 10000 years old.-Sh1fty- wrote:
People think Earth started around 2000BC? I was unaware of this.
So 8000BC is when Earth started according to them. 60'000 years is a big difference Spark.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
65 million years ago there were Dinosaurs.
Even bigger difference.
Even bigger difference.
No it's not at all.-Sh1fty- wrote:
So 8000BC is when Earth started according to them. 60'000 years is a big difference Spark.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
because 8000 - 2000 = 60000-Sh1fty- wrote:
So 8000BC is when Earth started according to them. 60'000 years is a big difference Spark.
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Regardless of the basic maths fail, 60 000 in geological terms is an eyeblink. Try 20, 50, 100, 500 million years.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
this is so fucking stupid. a good thread ruined by you cunts. what a shock.
nuke bf2s
nuke bf2s
So where do you stand?11 Bravo wrote:
this is so fucking stupid. a good thread ruined by you cunts. what a shock.
nuke bf2s
God vs Darwin
Why do you care about the content of threads if all you do is post meme pictures and one line comments?11 Bravo wrote:
this is so fucking stupid. a good thread ruined by you cunts. what a shock.
nuke bf2s
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Fixed for realistic values.Spark wrote:
because 8000 - 2000 = 60000-Sh1fty- wrote:
So 8000BC is when Earth started according to them. 60'000 years is a big difference Spark.
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Regardless of the basic maths fail, 60 000 in geological terms is an eyeblink. Try 20, 50, 100, 500 million 4 or 5 Billion years.
ya thats all i do. post 2 pics and thats all i do. fuck off you idiot.JohnG@lt wrote:
Why do you care about the content of threads if all you do is post meme pictures and one line comments?11 Bravo wrote:
this is so fucking stupid. a good thread ruined by you cunts. what a shock.
nuke bf2s
god isnt real so darwin i guessAussieReaper wrote:
So where do you stand?11 Bravo wrote:
this is so fucking stupid. a good thread ruined by you cunts. what a shock.
nuke bf2s
God vs Darwin
I have yet to see any scientific proof this Darwin fellow existed.
This is true for the age of the Earth. I think Spark meant to give time values that are significant on a geologic scale, and there you're talking 107 years minimum.DrunkFace wrote:
Fixed for realistic values.Spark wrote:
because 8000 - 2000 = 60000-Sh1fty- wrote:
So 8000BC is when Earth started according to them. 60'000 years is a big difference Spark.
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Regardless of the basic maths fail, 60 000 in geological terms is an eyeblink. Try 20, 50, 100, 500 million 4 or 5 Billion years.
All we have are second hand accounts of what he did, and a book that he supposedly authored centuries ago. But I never saw or met the guy. What evidence is there he is real? Besides, what he wrote of then would hardly apply to todays world anyway.Macbeth wrote:
I have yet to see any scientific proof this Darwin fellow existed.
Well, I saw him on a piece of toast!AussieReaper wrote:
All we have are second hand accounts of what he did, and a book that he supposedly authored centuries ago. But I never saw or met the guy. What evidence is there he is real? Besides, what he wrote of then would hardly apply to todays world anyway.Macbeth wrote:
I have yet to see any scientific proof this Darwin fellow existed.
SenorToenails wrote:
Well, I saw him on a piece of toast!AussieReaper wrote:
All we have are second hand accounts of what he did, and a book that he supposedly authored centuries ago. But I never saw or met the guy. What evidence is there he is real? Besides, what he wrote of then would hardly apply to todays world anyway.Macbeth wrote:
I have yet to see any scientific proof this Darwin fellow existed.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Well, the existence of pangaea is scientifically argumented through the movement of tectonic plates. The same stuff that causes the existance of mountains and earthquakes and even volcanoes. This map details the current perceived major tectonic plates;-Sh1fty- wrote:
If you would study the book of Genesis you might figure that out. Man fked that up, not God. If you'll look into it you'll also find out why man could live so long, why there's several continents instead of a Pangaea, and just generally why Earth is the way it is.AussieReaper wrote:
If God created the world for humans, why is it that of all the water on Earth, 70% is salt water?-Sh1fty- wrote:
I still haven't seen anything in the Bible, other than the concept of God, "Proven" false. Everything just connects! There are so many explanations for the reason the Earth is the way it is now in the Bible.
Let's zoom in on India
As you can see in both maps, the chinese tibetan region is a different tectonic plate than in the indian region, because these two collided tens if not hundreds of millions of years ago, this continental collision allowed for the existance of the himalaya.
And as you can see in the first map, you notice that Japan is right on top of colliding tectonic plates. The result of this; a landscape which has mountains and valleys literally everywhere and earthquakes occuring with abnormal frequency and intensity.
Lastly, let's throw in a map detailing tectonic plates and the location of various volcanoes;
Looks like there's a pattern isn't there?
The occurence of earthquakes and the existance of volcanoes and mountains are pretty much completely dependant on movement of tectonic plates. If they did not move, these would not exist or happen. And considering they move constantly plus the planet being billions of years old, pangaea suddenly seems alot more likely.
The more you know..
The rest of the post is fine and dandy but falls short on the last paragraph of my argument on page 7;
I can go into detail on the universe being completely self sufficient and life occuring without the need of a 'divine touch', there are so many examples and arguments to support these claims that I could fill at least 20 pages quite easily.You see, the universe is one big self-sufficient, evolving, recycling system. It is not dependant on outside interference and as such, even if there was a god who created the big bang, it makes no sense for god to interfere with this creation. It would be illogical for god to create a planet or life, because the system can already make these things by itself. If he would have planned to create life and a planet in the first place and thus interfere with his own creation, why would he have made a self sufficient system to begin with?
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