BF2S Forums Victim in Arizona Shooting threatens a Tea Party leader

Dilbert_X wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

But no actual death threats.

maybe...i dunno

she is a dope but i reckon someone said something bad

OTOH Palin made numerous threats and references to violence.

AussieReaper wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

list em

Assange is not a "journalist," any more than the "editor" of al Qaeda’s new English-language magazine Inspire is a "journalist." He is an anti-American operative with blood on his hands. His past posting of classified documents revealed the identity of more than 100 Afghan sources to the Taliban. Why was he not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders? - Sarah Palin



Anti-American operative, pursued like a terrorist?

Julian Paul Assange is an Australian journalist.

mr.hrundi wrote:

As someone from another country who's never been to the US and only knows the country from what other people say, here some thoughts:

There is violent rhetoric on every side of the political spectrum. In my opinion there are two reasons for that:
- someone needs to be loud and extreme to be heard in a country that produces masses and masses of opinions and news every single day. Low, reasonable voices won't be heard in a medial system that's based on profit.
- The second has to do with gun laws (I can already hear you sigh). When a community has access to guns all the time, it will get involved with them in their spare time (not necessarily bad, all I shot were air guns, but it was fun). From this, words like 'reload' and 'aim' will automatically be inserted in the vocabulary.

I do think that the daily use of these words will also influence someone's actions (especially people that have mental problems) and can, in my opinion, lead to the recent increase in random killings done by mentally unstable persons.

mr.hrundi wrote:

I wasn't primarily searching for a reason for the killings, but for a reason for the hostile rethoric. I was merely naming the rethoric as one possible influence for the killings.

Treatment for mentally ill people surely can prevent killings. The problem is that most of the culprits have never been suspicious before and are therefore not covered by psychological help.

I woudn't call the american health care system worse than others in this aspect. In Germany there are crimes by mentally ill people as well, yet most of them are rape of killing of children. This actually might have to do with the availability of guns. When guns are at hand, everybody can be the victim. If you only have a knife, the person will search for someone weaker.

mr.hrundi wrote:

I guess I don't need to tell you that I don't think that is a positive development. Both, random killings of many people and killing of weaker people are crimes and I'd rather see them not happening.

The thing is that I do not think that less availability of guns generally increase the crimes against children. There could well be an average in every country of that. Yet in societies, where guns are readily available, there are not only crimes against children, but also crimes against stronger or equally strong people, because it is more probable to be successful in commiting these.

Politically motivated culprits will only in the rarest cases kill a random child just because they can't get to the person they really want to harm. So no, describing them as a "more desirable target" is in my opinion not true.

Last edited by Turquoise (2011-01-18 12:40:26)

Dilbert_X wrote:

CC-Marley wrote:

Shut the hell up. He was a lefty, one of yous.

Says who?

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2011-01-19 14:27:53)