Godwins law.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
uhhhh only if it were the nazi's that were surrounded and poised for invasion....nice try Aussie but noAussieReaper wrote:
You know, Hitler had that exact same reasoning when he invaded Versailles.lowing wrote:
Yes because it is land acquired by the victors from the losers of a war started by the Arab and Islamic nations. That land represents territory used to launch constant attacks on Israel. If you are gunna start a war, might wanna make sure you can win it.AussieReaper wrote:
Seems to me that it's the Jewish settlements that are trying to destroy Palestine. Do you remember the recent war against Gaza?
Take a look at a map of the palestinian territory from 50 years ago to the present day.
Are you really going to argue that it's not the Palestinian country that is systematically being destroyed here?
You're argument is identical to that of the Nazi's.
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Maybe you should read up on it.lowing wrote:
The turmoil in Ireland was political and not done in the name of Christ or ChristianityDoctor Strangelove wrote:
The IRA frowns on lowing.lowing wrote:
WHen shit starts blowing up, in the name of another religion to the extent and extreme of Islam, I will.
All the stuff going on in the ME is more political than religious, except for Israel.
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Fuck Israel
Who's losing the land at the moment?
That should be an easy one for you to answer.
But you'll still say israel is the victim....
That should be an easy one for you to answer.
But you'll still say israel is the victim....
Its the Palestinians fault for fighting back, why can't you understand that?
Fuck Israel
maybe you should read up on it..ya see all of Islamic terrorists attacks are done in the name of Islam, the terrorists are claiming religious motives not the victims.Dilbert_X wrote:
Maybe you should read up on it.lowing wrote:
The turmoil in Ireland was political and not done in the name of Christ or ChristianityDoctor Strangelove wrote:
The IRA frowns on lowing.
All the stuff going on in the ME is more political than religious.
Now how many attacks in Ireland were done in the name of Christ or Christianity?
stop launching attacks on Israel then......It is well documented that everytime Israel offers an olive branch they get attacked.AussieReaper wrote:
Who's losing the land at the moment?
That should be an easy one for you to answer.
But you'll still say israel is the victim....
I mean it is war, are you really going to blame Israel for trying to win it?
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Except thats where you're wrong. Fox News lumps them all as 'islamic terrorists' whereas in fact that only represents a small fraction.
Invade an islamic country and surprisingly enough the people you're be fighting will be followers of islam.
The only real 'islamic terrorists' are AQ, and even then its not clear if they really are or have simply latched onto islamic extremism as a power base.
As for Ireland, it was protestants and catholics fighting each other - egged on by their churches - so no doubt all of it was done in the name of christ.
Invade an islamic country and surprisingly enough the people you're be fighting will be followers of islam.
The only real 'islamic terrorists' are AQ, and even then its not clear if they really are or have simply latched onto islamic extremism as a power base.
As for Ireland, it was protestants and catholics fighting each other - egged on by their churches - so no doubt all of it was done in the name of christ.
Only 'documented' by Israel really, any rational observer knows this isn't the case.It is well documented that everytime Israel offers an olive branch they get attacked.
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Fuck Israel
Sectarianism based upon Christianity....Dilbert_X wrote:
As for Ireland, it was protestants and catholics fighting each other - egged on by their churches - so no doubt all of it was done in the name of christ.
It was Israel that was surrounded remember?Dilbert_X wrote:
Except thats where you're wrong. Fox News lumps them all as 'islamic terrorists' whereas in fact that only represents a small fraction.
Invade an islamic country and surprisingly enough the people you're be fighting will be followers of islam.
The only real 'islamic terrorists' are AQ.
As for Ireland, it was protestants and catholics fighting each other - egged on by their churches - so no doubt all of it was done in the name of christ.Only 'documented' by Israel really.It is well documented that everytime Israel offers an olive branch they get attacked.
and bullshit, read up on it, the Ireland conflicts were not biblical
Yes the "troubles" in Ireland were/are based around the larger political problems, but to deny that religion (in this Catholicism v Protestantism) does not play a major role is a fallacy.lowing wrote:
It was Israel that was surrounded remember?Dilbert_X wrote:
Except thats where you're wrong. Fox News lumps them all as 'islamic terrorists' whereas in fact that only represents a small fraction.
Invade an islamic country and surprisingly enough the people you're be fighting will be followers of islam.
The only real 'islamic terrorists' are AQ.
As for Ireland, it was protestants and catholics fighting each other - egged on by their churches - so no doubt all of it was done in the name of christ.Only 'documented' by Israel really.It is well documented that everytime Israel offers an olive branch they get attacked.
and bullshit, read up on it, the Ireland conflicts were not biblical
So let's take the war on terrorism as an example and use the above. Terrorists destroy WTC.lowing wrote:
I mean it is war, are you really going to blame Israel for trying to win it?
I mean it is war, are you really going to blame extremists for trying to win it?
no it isn't...Just because a catholic and a Protestant gets into a fight does not mean they are fighting over religion.coke wrote:
Yes the "troubles" in Ireland were/are based around the larger political problems, but to deny that religion (in this Catholicism v Protestantism) does not play a major role is a fallacy.lowing wrote:
It was Israel that was surrounded remember?Dilbert_X wrote:
Except thats where you're wrong. Fox News lumps them all as 'islamic terrorists' whereas in fact that only represents a small fraction.
Invade an islamic country and surprisingly enough the people you're be fighting will be followers of islam.
The only real 'islamic terrorists' are AQ.
As for Ireland, it was protestants and catholics fighting each other - egged on by their churches - so no doubt all of it was done in the name of christ.
Only 'documented' by Israel really.
and bullshit, read up on it, the Ireland conflicts were not biblical
nope, I don't blame them, but their motives are religious, by their own admission.AussieReaper wrote:
So let's take the war on terrorism as an example and use the above. Terrorists destroy WTC.lowing wrote:
I mean it is war, are you really going to blame Israel for trying to win it?
I mean it is war, are you really going to blame extremists for trying to win it?
If you choose to invade a country which is surrounded then yes, you'll be surrounded.lowing wrote:
It was Israel that was surrounded remember?
And if Sunnis and Shia fight each other do you suppose it has nothing to do with religion?it isn't...Just because a catholic and a Protestant gets into a fight does not mean they are fighting over religion.
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Fuck Israel
But when which man fights which other man is firmly based upon which branch of the Christian Church they follow, it clearly is...lowing wrote:
no it isn't...Just because a catholic and a Protestant gets into a fight does not mean they are fighting over religion.coke wrote:
Yes the "troubles" in Ireland were/are based around the larger political problems, but to deny that religion (in this Catholicism v Protestantism) does not play a major role is a fallacy.lowing wrote:
It was Israel that was surrounded remember?
and bullshit, read up on it, the Ireland conflicts were not biblical
Seriously you don't know what your on about.
uhhh you might wanna read up on that war as well. Arab and Islamic armies massed around Israel poised to invade it.Dilbert_X wrote:
If you choose to invade a country which is surrounded then yes, you'll be surrounded.lowing wrote:
It was Israel that was surrounded remember?
Well now if they'd stayed in Russia and Germany they wouldn't have had that problem, instead they chose to invade a country surrounded by muslim nations, and somehow its the muslims fault?lowing wrote:
uhhh you might wanna read up on that war as well. Arab and Islamic armies massed around Israel poised to invade it.Dilbert_X wrote:
If you choose to invade a country which is surrounded then yes, you'll be surrounded.lowing wrote:
It was Israel that was surrounded remember?
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Fuck Israel
They fought over representation. The Protestants were afraid of Catholic dominance in Ireland politics.. IE it was political NOT biblical. It was not over religious beliefs or to convert one to the other.coke wrote:
But when which man fights which other man is firmly based upon which branch of the Christian Church they follow, it clearly is...lowing wrote:
no it isn't...Just because a catholic and a Protestant gets into a fight does not mean they are fighting over religion.coke wrote:
Yes the "troubles" in Ireland were/are based around the larger political problems, but to deny that religion (in this Catholicism v Protestantism) does not play a major role is a fallacy.
Seriously you don't know what your on about.
WHat country did they invade?Dilbert_X wrote:
Well now if they'd stayed in Russia and Germany they wouldn't have had that problem, instead they chose to invade a country surrounded by muslim nations, and somehow its the muslims fault?lowing wrote:
uhhh you might wanna read up on that war as well. Arab and Islamic armies massed around Israel poised to invade it.Dilbert_X wrote:
If you choose to invade a country which is surrounded then yes, you'll be surrounded.
Same with Zionism.lowing wrote:
nope, I don't blame them, but their motives are religious, by their own admission.AussieReaper wrote:
So let's take the war on terrorism as an example and use the above. Terrorists destroy WTC.lowing wrote:
I mean it is war, are you really going to blame Israel for trying to win it?
I mean it is war, are you really going to blame extremists for trying to win it?
Yet you are never critical of what is happening in Palestine.
Islamaphobes often only see the bad in Islam and never the bad in any other religion. Did you know?
Sure as long as they don't invoke their religion as their motiveDilbert_X wrote:
If you choose to invade a country which is surrounded then yes, you'll be surrounded.lowing wrote:
It was Israel that was surrounded remember?And if Sunnis and Shia fight each other do you suppose it has nothing to do with religion?it isn't...Just because a catholic and a Protestant gets into a fight does not mean they are fighting over religion.
lowing wrote:
They fought over representation. The Protestants were afraid of Catholic dominance in Ireland politics.. IE it was political NOT biblical. It was not over religious beliefs or to convert one to the other.coke wrote:
But when which man fights which other man is firmly based upon which branch of the Christian Church they follow, it clearly is...lowing wrote:
no it isn't...Just because a catholic and a Protestant gets into a fight does not mean they are fighting over religion.
Seriously you don't know what your on about.
Lines drawn over slightly differing religious beliefs...
The Palestinians fear Israeli dominance over them, yes the differences may be more stark and the situation more severe but at the end of the day it's all political, religion just gives a focal point in both instances.
I am convinced Israel would live in peace if left the fuck alone. I have no such warm fuzzies with its surrounding neighbors. I am convince Israel wants peace, I am quite sure the Islamic nations only want peace when the world is IslamAussieReaper wrote:
Same with Zionism.lowing wrote:
nope, I don't blame them, but their motives are religious, by their own admission.AussieReaper wrote:
So let's take the war on terrorism as an example and use the above. Terrorists destroy WTC.
I mean it is war, are you really going to blame extremists for trying to win it?
Yet you are never critical of what is happening in Palestine.
Islamaphobes often only see the bad in Islam and never the bad in any other religion. Did you know?
Staying in either wasn't really an option at the time. And they didn't invade anywhere, they were "placed there".Dilbert_X wrote:
Well now if they'd stayed in Russia and Germany they wouldn't have had that problem, instead they chose to invade a country surrounded by muslim nations, and somehow its the muslims fault?lowing wrote:
uhhh you might wanna read up on that war as well. Arab and Islamic armies massed around Israel poised to invade it.Dilbert_X wrote:
If you choose to invade a country which is surrounded then yes, you'll be surrounded.