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2011-01-16 01:58:12
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

uhhhhhh sorry, it is a fact the left can not hold an audience because they can not form an argument that will hold water under scrutiny. There may be occasions where someone on the right throws insults, or racial quips, but it is not because they can not make an argument otherwise.
Maybe its that the left doesn't need to be told what to think, or that the right feels the need to broadcast a lot to spread the 'message' since they don't really have an argument.
I don't feel the need to be in an 'audience', 'lefties' tend to educate themselves, rather than sit in front of the TV and wait to be given their opinion.

This board is a pretty good example of that. MOST insults race accusations, name calling etc come from the left side of this forum, and it starts when your arguments break down.
If someone did a survey I bet it would be the other way around.
LMAO!!...yeah maybe thats it.  THe left thinks for themselves, I would rather the left DO for themselves



I wouldn't bet your life on that.
2011-01-16 01:59:35
lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

examples. when talking about taxes. the left can not successfully justify or argue taking money from those those it does not belong to, so you must say the rich are greedy or selfish. and try to demonize them.
Taking money from those those it does not belong to? That sentence doesn't even make sense.
yer right sorry. Meant to say taking money from those it belongs to, fuck it. how about taking someone else's money.

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2011-01-16 02:02:54
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

examples. when talking about taxes. the left can not successfully justify or argue taking money from those those it does not belong to, so you must say the rich are greedy or selfish. and try to demonize them.
Taking money from those those it does not belong to? That sentence doesn't even make sense.
yer right sorry. Meant to say taking money from those it belongs to, fuck it. how about taking someone else's money.
Yeah well, without taxes you can't have a government. There's always going to be a bunch of crybabies who don't like paying taxes. But the rich can afford it. It's not like you can tax the poor.
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2011-01-16 02:11:32
lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:


Taking money from those those it does not belong to? That sentence doesn't even make sense.
yer right sorry. Meant to say taking money from those it belongs to, fuck it. how about taking someone else's money.
Yeah well, without taxes you can't have a government. There's always going to be a bunch of crybabies who don't like paying taxes. But the rich can afford it. It's not like you can tax the poor.
Perfect example, no one has ever claimed they should not pay taxes, it is the over taxation that is objected to. and the taking from someone because well, they have it.
2011-01-16 02:21:12
AussieReaper
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I don't find paying taxes difficult. If I was earning more I doubt I'd find paying taxes any more difficult.

Do you have a problem with the rate you are currently taxed?
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2011-01-16 02:27:42
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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lowing wrote:

examples. when talking about taxes. the left can not successfully justify or argue taking money from those those it does not belong to, so you must say the rich are greedy or selfish. and try to demonize them.

when talking about inflated social services, the left can not successfully argue or justify paying for the people gouging these services, so you must victimize them and by blaming ANYONE and EVERYONE other than the person doing the gouging.

When talking about criminals, the left can not argue or justify light or easy prison treatment, so you must victimize the criminal instead of let him be treated as he is, a criminal.

When talking about gun control, the left can not argue or justify the banning of guns, so you must demonize gun owners as nut jobs hell bent on killing rampages.

When talking about social issues, you can not argue or justify the unacceptable behavior, so you simply turn it into a race issue and call anyone a racist that thinks certain behavior is unacceptable. Henry Lewis Gates, Rodney King, OJ etc...
If every one of your arguments is "you're wrong, therefore you're wrong" there isn't much to talk about.
Fuck Israel
2011-01-16 02:32:05
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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lowing wrote:

yer right sorry. Meant to say taking money from those it belongs to, fuck it. how about taking someone else's money.
You mean to pay for a huge standing army, pointless wars, defense contractors and bailouts for billionaires?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-01-16 02:35:35)

Fuck Israel
2011-01-16 02:36:30
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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lowing wrote:

If that were true, anywhere near the extent of that of the left, then conservative talk radio and commentary shows would be just as much a dismal failure as liberal talk radio and commentary shows are. As it is, they are not. The lefts message is simply not believable or sustainable. The only success the left have is in comedy. Fitting, to say the least.
Conservative talk shows are a success because of their entertainment value. A lot of truth to their messages are drowned out in the embittered and unnecessary verbal beatings a good many of them give their liberal callers. There are hosts who will let people finish without unreasonable interruption, and I appreciate it, but they are few and far between. Apparently a good chunk of their targeted demographic prefers arrogant buttheads providing one-sided arguments with the biggest blowhard coming out on top.

"Thank you for letting me on your show so you can voice your opinion."
2011-01-16 04:52:46
Hunter/Jumper
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I am looking for Rush, Haninty, Lavin[sp] counter parts from the Left to listen to. Any suggestions would be apreciated.
The left has very few 'counterparts' to offer over the radio. Go watch some Colbert. Dave Ross on Kiro FM out of Seattle is fairly liberal, but not far-left.

lowing wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Left talk is boring. It just is.
It is boring because it is an argument that can not hold up to scrutiny. That is a fact. The left can not argue on merit of their argument, so it must resort to name calling, racist accusations, and insults in an effort to discredit their opposition.........A lot like some members of this forum.
Something right-wing media does constantly.
Not true ! another case of 1st hand experience trumping google search

I have been listening for about a month and the only real screaming and insults come from Randi Rhodes ( but it sounds so slutty in that gravel voice ! )

Rush Limbaugh mostly listens to The left, then pours through video and audio archives and finds tape of them contradicting themselves or evidence and past examples to prove them wrong. Then he plays it. Thats all. It might envoke some laughter.

He lets them hang themselves, like clinton pretending to cry when he sees cameras on him or falling a sleep at memorial services. Or all the Democrates Railing about Saddam having Weapons of Mass Destruction ~ He shows Video of Leading democrates Succsessfully blocking G.W. Bush's attempts at auditing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and then Crowing about it.

( I wonder what would have happened if they had not interferred ? obviously it did need attention but Fannie and Freddie were their babies and we all paid the price for democrats party loyalty. Thats one bullet they dodged ~ we didn't )

Limbaugh and Beck are about 50% comedy though Beck is tiresome and rarely makes me laugh.


The Embittered rhetoric you speak of is not there.

You may need to listen for yourself, I guarantee it would greatly change your perception and challenge views that are constantly espoused on the subject.

After hearing years of " Mean spirited ~ Bitter ~ Ignorant ~ Haters ~ Racist ~ Robots ~ uneducated ~ Millionaires ~ Rednecks etc."

  Aren't you becoming the least bit suspicious ? just a little ?

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2011-01-16 05:12:13
Hunter/Jumper
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CC-Marley wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Left talk is boring. It just is.
This.

The lefties here on the lower cape do a public acess show on tv. I should do a mystery sciece theatre show..maybe no.
I have the Box sets ! and I tuaght " T.V.s Frank's " Sister to ride. she had 0 natural talent but was one tuff lady and became one of my most respected students.

You do I MSFT2010 + and you got my money dude !

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2011-01-16 05:18:28
Hunter/Jumper
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AussieReaper wrote:

I don't find paying taxes difficult. If I was earning more I doubt I'd find paying taxes any more difficult.

Do you have a problem with the rate you are currently taxed?
niether did I untill I got a family and more properties, When you own income property they think your the Golden Goose. They Doubled the Tax on a brownstone I own. What was I gonna do ? They just shafted me. Now I have to plan for Four futures and the spare cash is not so abundent.

I used to be like " . . shit. . .  it's 400 Bucks "

now Im like " SH*T !  IT's 400 Bucks ! "
2011-01-16 05:24:42
Hunter/Jumper
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XxxxxxXxxxx wrote:

lowing wrote:

examples. when talking about taxes. the left can not successfully justify or argue taking money from those those it does not belong to, so you must say the rich are greedy or selfish. and try to demonize them.
Taking money from those those it does not belong to? That sentence doesn't even make sense.
please try and be productive and realistic in rebuttals. I don't think anyone didn't clearly get the his gist of his comment. Lets keep this moving before XXXX X@XXX shows up cursing at everyone. Besides after a Saturday Night I cut everyone a bit more slack.
2011-01-16 05:37:38
JahManRed
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George Galloway. He is on BBC Radio 4, Old shows are in the IPlayer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hZAKsQbhLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAm7rfHKSyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
2011-01-16 05:37:39
Hunter/Jumper
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

yer right sorry. Meant to say taking money from those it belongs to, fuck it. how about taking someone else's money.
You mean to pay for a huge standing army,
Kept the peace pretty much since 1945 ! Beat down communisim too. We all like that don't we ?

Dilbert_X wrote:

pointless wars,
0pinion

Dilbert_X wrote:

defense contractors
At least this money gets back into the economy with people who work for a living.

Dilbert_X wrote:

and bailouts for billionaires?
That sucks and now most of them work for obozo to boot !
2011-01-16 06:08:47
Monkey Spanker
Show it to the nice monkey.
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JahManRed wrote:

George Galloway. He is on BBC Radio 4, Old shows are in the IPlayer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hZAKsQbhLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAm7rfHKSyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
He also does a Sat night show on talk sport as well. The guy is a nutter though.
here is his website with link to radio show. Btw for those that don't know him he is from Scotland, was a Labour MP, now I believe he is an independent  MP for somewhere in north London.
http://www.georgegalloway.com/page.php? … sport.html
Oh did I mention he is a NUTTER.
Quote of the year so far "Fifa 11 on the other hand... shiny things for mongos "-mtb0minime
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2011-01-16 07:01:10
Lotta_Drool
Spit
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I like listening to Randi Rhodes to get my Leftist nutter information.  The liberal propaganda is very transparent compared to the rights.  I have heard much more and worse hate speech from the left.
2011-01-16 12:12:11
Stingray24
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

yer right sorry. Meant to say taking money from those it belongs to, fuck it. how about taking someone else's money.
You mean to pay for a huge standing army, pointless wars, defense contractors and bailouts for billionaires?
Social Security plus Medicare and Medicaid combine for double what is spent on the military.  Perhaps we should shut off the provisions we send in aid to nations around the world.  The bailouts were stupid, I'll give you that.  If a company is failing, they should be allowed to do so, not rewarded with taxpayer funds.  Neither side of the aisle can seem to figure that one out.
2011-01-16 12:26:36
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
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Most people listen to right/left talk radio and TV shows to hear their opinions regurgitated so they can feel better about themselves.
2011-01-16 12:32:08
presidentsheep
Back to the Fuhrer
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Monkey Spanker wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

George Galloway. He is on BBC Radio 4, Old shows are in the IPlayer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hZAKsQbhLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAm7rfHKSyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
He also does a Sat night show on talk sport as well. The guy is a nutter though.
here is his website with link to radio show. Btw for those that don't know him he is from Scotland, was a Labour MP, now I believe he is an independent  MP for somewhere in north London.
http://www.georgegalloway.com/page.php? … sport.html
Oh did I mention he is a NUTTER.
Guy's more than a nutter... Anyone remember him pretending to be a cat?
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
2011-01-16 13:14:19
Hunter/Jumper
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

I like listening to Randi Rhodes to get my Leftist nutter information.  The liberal propaganda is very transparent compared to the rights.  I have heard much more and worse hate speech from the left.
I'd like to See Randi and Ann wrestle in Wesson oil.
2011-01-16 13:55:19
lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

I don't find paying taxes difficult. If I was earning more I doubt I'd find paying taxes any more difficult.

Do you have a problem with the rate you are currently taxed?
yes i do.. I pay on what I earn, what I spend, what I save, where I live, what I drive, the fuckin trailer I use to haul shit, what I invest what I inherit what I win, what I buy and what I sell... the producing class pays too much taxes.

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2011-01-16 14:00:33
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

examples. when talking about taxes. the left can not successfully justify or argue taking money from those those it does not belong to, so you must say the rich are greedy or selfish. and try to demonize them.

when talking about inflated social services, the left can not successfully argue or justify paying for the people gouging these services, so you must victimize them and by blaming ANYONE and EVERYONE other than the person doing the gouging.

When talking about criminals, the left can not argue or justify light or easy prison treatment, so you must victimize the criminal instead of let him be treated as he is, a criminal.

When talking about gun control, the left can not argue or justify the banning of guns, so you must demonize gun owners as nut jobs hell bent on killing rampages.

When talking about social issues, you can not argue or justify the unacceptable behavior, so you simply turn it into a race issue and call anyone a racist that thinks certain behavior is unacceptable. Henry Lewis Gates, Rodney King, OJ etc...
If every one of your arguments is "you're wrong, therefore you're wrong" there isn't much to talk about.
I have never said you are wrong because you are wrong, and you know it.  I give arguments for my POV. If I actually did what you claimed then you and the others wouldn't be bitching about 64 page threads would you?

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2011-01-16 14:02:55
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

yer right sorry. Meant to say taking money from those it belongs to, fuck it. how about taking someone else's money.
You mean to pay for a huge standing army, pointless wars, defense contractors and bailouts for billionaires?
Love having a superior national defense, pointless wars are your opinion, someone has to build the defense systems, would rather bailout those that put me to work than those that don't, if of course I have to bail out anyone. Would rather keep my money.
2011-01-16 14:20:04
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

defense contractors
At least this money gets back into the economy with people who work for a living.
Then all taxes are fine, since the money gets recycled into the economy.
Fuck Israel
2011-01-16 14:33:05
Hunter/Jumper
Member
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

defense contractors
At least this money gets back into the economy with people who work for a living.
Then all taxes are fine, since the money gets recycled into the economy.
not all of it. N.Y.C. Housing projects is like burning it, so is Welfare and the National Endowment for the Arts. The list is endless, like an open pipe.

 

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