13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6771

-Sh1fty- wrote:

If they can live off of the rent they're receiving, they don't need our tax dollars.
i've been paying taxes 29 years. and you?
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6404|North Tonawanda, NY

-Sh1fty- wrote:

If they can live off of the rent they're receiving, they don't need our tax dollars.
...They paid into a system with the express promise that they would collect benefits when they retired.  Do you also believe people shouldn't collect unemployment?
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6628
The Government handled this money so well, I'm glad they took my money. Lets give them a crack at something bigger. Personally I wished obama would have tried his hand straitening this one out before he tried to Nationalize Heath Care. It would have gave people confidence in him.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5976|College Park, MD
he didn't really nationalize healthcare though, sadly
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5632|London, England

-Sh1fty- wrote:

If they can live off of the rent they're receiving, they don't need our tax dollars.
Clearly you have zero clue how social security works. Everyone pays into it and thus everyone earns the right to collect it when they retire. One day, when you've actually gotten a job instead of jerking off five nights a week into your socks dreaming of your butt buddy Jesus you'll receive a Social Security earnings statement every few years that tells you just how much money you should expect back when you retire.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,742|7011|Cinncinatti
we need to collect money to send shifty to school
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Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6628

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

he didn't really nationalize healthcare though, sadly
I wished obama would have tried his hand straitening this one out before he > tried < to Nationalize Heath Care.
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6941

-Sh1fty- wrote:

I know old people in the US who are living off of their property (They bought homes and rented them out until paid for, then collect the money) but also get social security from the government.

I don't need to live in the United States, or have a very high education to know that's messed up.
Why is it messed up?  So, they invested their money on rental property, while still paying into Social Security from their usual job.  If they gambled and partied all their money away, not investing in property, they are then entitled to their Social Security benefits?
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5748|Ventura, California

burnzz wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

If they can live off of the rent they're receiving, they don't need our tax dollars.
i've been paying taxes 29 years. and you?
0

Try to make a point next time burnzz.

My views are just to cut taxes in general, I don't pay taxes yet and I'm not looking forward to.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6774|so randum

-Sh1fty- wrote:

burnzz wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

If they can live off of the rent they're receiving, they don't need our tax dollars.
i've been paying taxes 29 years. and you?
0

Try to make a point next time burnzz.

My views are just to cut taxes in general, I don't pay taxes yet and I'm not looking forward to.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

our tax dollars.

Last edited by FatherTed (2011-01-12 16:54:16)

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Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5748|Ventura, California

JohnG@lt wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

If they can live off of the rent they're receiving, they don't need our tax dollars.
Clearly you have zero clue how social security works. Everyone pays into it and thus everyone earns the right to collect it when they retire. One day, when you've actually gotten a job instead of jerking off five nights a week into your socks dreaming of your butt buddy Jesus you'll receive a Social Security earnings statement every few years that tells you just how much money you should expect back when you retire.
When the older people start largely outnumbering the younger people currently working (baby boom) things will get off balance.

I don't know much about social security, but every version of entitlement to me is bullshit, assuming SS is entitlement, but then again I have no fucking clue and should look it up before putting my nose in here
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5748|Ventura, California

FatherTed wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

burnzz wrote:


i've been paying taxes 29 years. and you?
0

Try to make a point next time burnzz.

My views are just to cut taxes in general, I don't pay taxes yet and I'm not looking forward to.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

our tax dollars.
lol I'm American and I live in the U.S.

"Our" represents this country.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6427|what

-Sh1fty- wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:


0

Try to make a point next time burnzz.

My views are just to cut taxes in general, I don't pay taxes yet and I'm not looking forward to.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

our tax dollars.
lol I'm American and I live in the U.S.

"Our" represents this country.
You're not American.
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-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6933|BC, Canada

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Whatever happened to saving up so when you're old you can retire and live off of the money you worked hard for?

Oh yeah the government lets you be lazy.
Lol shithead kid who has maybe worked for a couple years, oh wait, with that last post, zero years, calling people who have worked their whole lives lazy.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5748|Ventura, California

AussieReaper wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

0

Try to make a point next time burnzz.

My views are just to cut taxes in general, I don't pay taxes yet and I'm not looking forward to.
lol I'm American and I live in the U.S.

"Our" represents this country.
You're not American.
I beg to differ.

I know I'm the wrong person to debate in this thread, I'll shut up, stop posting in this thread and try to learn a thing or two. Just don't be assholes, oh wait...
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6933|BC, Canada

-Sh1fty- wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:


lol I'm American and I live in the U.S.

"Our" represents this country.
You're not American.
I beg to differ.

I know I'm the wrong person to debate in this thread, I'll shut up, stop posting in this thread and try to learn a thing or two. Just don't be assholes, oh wait...
Didn't you just shit on people who have been working their whole lives and paying into a benefit, for collecting that benefit? Seems you made the asshole comments. I'd expect to get something I paid for, wouldn't you?
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6990
do it asian style, people live with their parents FOR LIFE.
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-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6933|BC, Canada

Cybargs wrote:

do it asian style, people live with their parents FOR LIFE.
Can I!? Can I?!!
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5748|Ventura, California

Nic wrote:

Didn't you just shit on people who have been working their whole lives and paying into a benefit, for collecting that benefit? Seems you made the asshole comments. I'd expect to get something I paid for, wouldn't you?
Apparently I can't be left alone after trying to leave

Anyway, unless we're talking about SS from a company you've worked with, which I'm assuming we're not. I'm talking about being paid by the government after you reach xx age.

So, why should you pay the government to save up money for you when you need it then just save it yourself?
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7046|PNW

Meanwhile, in the OP:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Just wait until people can no longer afford a PS3 or X-BOX, you think the ghetto is bad now just wait till these babysitters are taken away.  What do you think 19 year old freddy will do with his free time when he get off work from burger king and doesn't have his PS3?  Oh shit, freddy read the news and he is pissed spending his time ranting over the fry machine at work about the monetary system and how people need to sleep, freddy needs to sleep.......
0.o
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6990

Nic wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

do it asian style, people live with their parents FOR LIFE.
Can I!? Can I?!!
saves rent costs and the house is always clean.

there are no pensions in taiwan unless you work for the gov, so most people live with their parents to take care of them lel. its not unexpected to have a 30 year old with a wife/husband and still lives with their parents.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,816|6380|eXtreme to the maX

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Whatever happened to saving up so when you're old you can retire and live off of the money you worked hard for?
Social security is simply a compulsory scheme requiring people to put some of their hard-earned money into savings run by the govt.
Are you saying that since you don't want to pay tax these people shouldn't get their money back?

(I know, I should just lol and keep scrolling.....)
Fuck Israel
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5748|Ventura, California

Dilbert_X wrote:

Are you saying that since you don't want to pay tax these people shouldn't get their money back?
Well, the OP said the baby boomers are going to start draining the cash.

Does something need to be done?
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5632|London, England

-Sh1fty- wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

If they can live off of the rent they're receiving, they don't need our tax dollars.
Clearly you have zero clue how social security works. Everyone pays into it and thus everyone earns the right to collect it when they retire. One day, when you've actually gotten a job instead of jerking off five nights a week into your socks dreaming of your butt buddy Jesus you'll receive a Social Security earnings statement every few years that tells you just how much money you should expect back when you retire.
When the older people start largely outnumbering the younger people currently working (baby boom) things will get off balance.

I don't know much about social security, but every version of entitlement to me is bullshit, assuming SS is entitlement, but then again I have no fucking clue and should look it up before putting my nose in here
It's not a fucking entitlement you moron. People pay in money during their working years, they get money back when they retire. It's forced retirement savings. This wouldn't be an issue but for two things: 1) the government has repeatedly stolen from the social security fund over the decades in order to spend more and 2) people live a lot longer now than when it was designed causing more strain on the system. People retiring wouldn't even be a problem if the thieves in Congress hadn't drained it in an attempt to kill it.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5748|Ventura, California
So if Congress stops draining the cash the system will work fine?
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

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