Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6458|Ireland
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/01/ … test=faces

Ford's new Focus compact car isn't even on sale yet, but the automaker has revealed plans to add an electric version by the end of 2011. The Focus Electric is a pure, zero-emissions battery-powered car similar in concept to the recently launched Nissan Leaf.

Unlike the uniquely designed Leaf, the Focus Electric is nearly identical to the conventional version of the car, save for a slightly different front fascia and a charging input located behind the driver's side front fender, along with the requisite "Electric" logos. Five passengers will fit in an interior that is also largely unchanged, although part of the battery system encroaches on cargo space in the form of a large box behind the seats measuring about one foot high by one foot deep.

Ford says that the 23 kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery pack developed with LG Chem can be fully charged in just 3-4 hours using a 240-volt outlet, about half of the time that it takes to fill up the one in a Leaf. The main difference between the two is that the Nissan pack is air-cooled while the Focus has a more complex, liquid cooled and heated system that facilitates the use of a higher wattage on board charging system, 6.6 kW vs 3.3 kW, without causing damage to the battery.

At the unveiling of the Focus Electric in New York, the car's chief engineer, Eric Kehun, said that Ford hasn't determined the range of the car yet, but that it will be better than the Chevrolet Volt's and competitive with the Leaf's, which puts it in a ballpark between 50 and 100 miles. Kehun added that prospective customers are prepared for the fact that they can't go as far as a gasoline-fueled car between fill-ups and are willing to adjust their driving style accordingly.

A navigation system with electric vehicle specific functions that coach owners to maximize their efficiency will be available with the car, as will a smartphone application that can control certain functions remotely. One lets you turn the climate control system on while the car is still plugged in, allowing you to begin your trip with a warm or cold car and a full battery.

The Focus Electric is Ford's first production passenger car and joins the Ford Transit Connect Electric cargo van in the company's growing electrified lineup. From 1998 until 2002 Ford offered a limited number of battery-powered Ranger pickup trucks mainly through leases, but recalled most of them after the program ended in 2004. Only a handful remain on the road.

Pricing for the Focus Electric hasn't been set, but Ford says that it will be competitive with similar vehicles on the market. The Nissan Leaf currently retails for $32,780. Both cars are eligible for a $7,500 federal tax credit and various state incentives.

Ford has teamed up with electronics retailer Best Buy to offer a Ford-branded 240-volt home charging station for $1,499, which includes the cost of Geek Squad installation. The price is about 30 percent less than current offerings from other automakers.

The Focus Electric will be built in Wayne, Michigan at the same factory set to build the Focus. The car will be available in 19 cities across the country by the end of 2011, and will continue to roll out nationwide throughout 2012.
I would buy one if they could get the price more resonable ($15k ish).  Ford has been making Chevy look like shit for quite awhile now, it will be interesting how this stacks up against the Volt that Chevy has been bragging about for years now.

This car would have to make it 65 miles on a charge for me to use it to commute, but my work does have a couple charging stations if needed. I could just never justify spending $32k on a car that is only good for commuting.  I could buy a real nice used car for $10k and that $22k could buy a lot of gas.  Why can't the government give a real $14k tax rebate for a car like this, hell they gave the banks billions for ruining the economy. Obama and the congress is filled with Dolts.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5976|College Park, MD
I like how you have to buy the god damn charging station for these cars.
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5633|London, England
Electric cars still only work for people in the suburbs with a garage. That kills a good chunk of their market (especially since it would be urban people buying into a product like this).
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FloppY_
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+1,010|6561|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

JohnG@lt wrote:

Electric cars still only work for people in the suburbs with a garage. That kills a good chunk of their market (especially since it would be urban people buying into a product like this).
Yeah Electric cars require a garage and people who can live with electric cars rarely have one...

Kind of an Oxymoron, I guess they would make good share-cars if they can bring the charging time down...

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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6896|London, England
50 and 100 miles, is that it? I thought the Leaf/Volt had much better range than that. That's the kind of range hybrid cars have in electric mode isn't it
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6274|The Mitten

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

I like how you have to buy the god damn charging station for these cars.
no it's just because america uses a 120v system, and they designed the speed chargers for 240v... looks like all you really need is an outlet wired for 240v.
EE (hats
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

Mekstizzle wrote:

50 and 100 miles, is that it? I thought the Leaf/Volt had much better range than that. That's the kind of range hybrid cars have in electric mode isn't it
why in gods name would you need more miles than that?
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6840|Area 51
Ugh electric cars. Cut the crap already and invest more in hydrogen powered cars.
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6274|The Mitten

FloppY_ wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Electric cars still only work for people in the suburbs with a garage. That kills a good chunk of their market (especially since it would be urban people buying into a product like this).
Yeah Electric cars require a garage and people who can live with electric cars rarely have one...
Ehh... not really. You could wire up a freestanding electric post...
EE (hats
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5633|London, England

Morpheus wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Electric cars still only work for people in the suburbs with a garage. That kills a good chunk of their market (especially since it would be urban people buying into a product like this).
Yeah Electric cars require a garage and people who can live with electric cars rarely have one...
Ehh... not really. You could wire up a freestanding electric post...
On the sidewalk?
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5633|London, England

11 Bravo wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

50 and 100 miles, is that it? I thought the Leaf/Volt had much better range than that. That's the kind of range hybrid cars have in electric mode isn't it
why in gods name would you need more miles than that?
I commute well over 50 miles a day.
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Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6274|The Mitten

JohnG@lt wrote:

Morpheus wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Yeah Electric cars require a garage and people who can live with electric cars rarely have one...
Ehh... not really. You could wire up a freestanding electric post...
On the sidewalk?
oh, right, parking on the street.
herp derp.

Ok, so if you have no driveway, then don;t get one. But even if you have a driveway, you could wire up a post.
Also, it would be incredibly easy, especially in the US where it would take a 'custom' receptacle, to hook up a disconnect (like inside the house) that cuts the power, so no one steals your precious electricity...

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EE (hats
FloppY_
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+1,010|6561|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

11 Bravo wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

50 and 100 miles, is that it? I thought the Leaf/Volt had much better range than that. That's the kind of range hybrid cars have in electric mode isn't it
why in gods name would you need more miles than that?
Last time I went to school I had 100km
You can't count on the range when you exit cities, you would burn electricity much faster at 80-90 km/h, and as I live in a remote area, the nearest major city is 100 away...
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5976|College Park, MD
Well in DC they have like two charging stations on the street. Kinda cool I guess, except they're just two stations.

We also have a hydrogen fueling station but for some reason it's in the hood @_@

@Floppy these cars are marketed toward people who have short commutes.

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FloppY_
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+1,010|6561|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Morpheus wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Morpheus wrote:


Ehh... not really. You could wire up a freestanding electric post...
On the sidewalk?
oh, right, parking on the street.
herp derp.
Enjoy walking out to your unplugged/burned down/non-charged car in the morning then...

fifth gear clearly showed the cons of having a wire going to the street, and the fact that some douches will find it funny to unplug it at night... not to mention rain is bad for electricity in general
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Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6274|The Mitten

FloppY_ wrote:

Morpheus wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


On the sidewalk?
oh, right, parking on the street.
herp derp.
Enjoy walking out to your unplugged/burned down/non-charged car in the morning then...

fifth gear clearly showed the cons of having a wire going to the street, and the fact that some douches will find it funny to unplug it at night... not to mention rain is bad for electricity in general
see my edit.
Also, for the proper cable, rain don't mean shit.
EE (hats
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5976|College Park, MD
this car would be perfect for me were it not for the price. My dad's building has a garage I could charge it in, there aren't any hooligans in my mom's neighborhood who would unplug a car, and it's only about 16 miles of driving each day.

But of course it costs about as much as a 328i.
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FloppY_
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+1,010|6561|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Well in DC they have like two charging stations on the street. Kinda cool I guess, except they're just two stations.

We also have a hydrogen fueling station but for some reason it's in the hood @_@

@Floppy these cars are marketed toward people who have short commutes.
I know they are, but even a supposedly "densely populated" country like Denmark, it's just not viable with a range that short...
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5633|London, England
The only way electric vehicles will ever be viable is if they make the batteries quick release and quick change so you can replace them at a gas station.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6561|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Morpheus wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Morpheus wrote:


oh, right, parking on the street.
herp derp.
Enjoy walking out to your unplugged/burned down/non-charged car in the morning then...

fifth gear clearly showed the cons of having a wire going to the street, and the fact that some douches will find it funny to unplug it at night... not to mention rain is bad for electricity in general
see my edit.
Also, for the proper cable, rain don't mean shit.
It has nothing to do with the cable, if rain or moisture gets into the plug itself, your car can burn to the ground...
Electric cars are VERY rare here in Denmark, even though they are excluded by tax, and the only thing I have seen of them on television, is burning from charging outside....
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Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6274|The Mitten

JohnG@lt wrote:

The only way electric vehicles will ever be viable is if they make the batteries quick release and quick change so you can replace them at a gas station.
or figured out hydrogen technology
EE (hats
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6561|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

JohnG@lt wrote:

The only way electric vehicles will ever be viable is if they make the batteries quick release and quick change so you can replace them at a gas station.
Fuck batteries tbh, the Hydrogen Fuel Cell is the future as things look now.. Batteries are too heavy, charge too slow and last too short...
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11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

JohnG@lt wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

50 and 100 miles, is that it? I thought the Leaf/Volt had much better range than that. That's the kind of range hybrid cars have in electric mode isn't it
why in gods name would you need more miles than that?
I commute well over 50 miles a day.
sux to be you
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5633|London, England

11 Bravo wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

why in gods name would you need more miles than that?
I commute well over 50 miles a day.
sux to be you
You know, I think I figured you out. You're what happens when you take an empty uneducated head and fill it with Michael Moore movies, Fast Food Nation and Planet Green channel. You're like this strange caricature of hipsterdom but without the ability to articulate or make it look cool. You're a weird dude.

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Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5976|College Park, MD
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