Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6793|Long Island, New York

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Oh I am sure, it is never about money with professional athletes huh? Wow
Find me proof that it is. As an Islander fan and having been following an abysmal team for years, I didn't see Dan Hamhuis or Paul Martin (2 outstanding defenseman) coming to the team when they were offered more money than the Penguins did. But they knew they'd have a chance at a Stanley Cup with the Penguins, so they joined them.

You're wrong here lowing, don't even try.
well lets see, you gave 2 obscure players that no one has heard of, from a sport no one gives a fuck about.

I give you and entire baseball league and football league
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994–95_ … all_strike
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m … i_6710058/


I won't even ask that if money is not an issue for professional athletes.....Why the fuck do they need agents?

So for you to tell me that athletes don't chase big money is nothing short of naive.
Well, let's see. The biggest Free Agent in Baseball this offseason, Cliff Lee, signed with the Phillies instead of the Yankees for $50 million less. Ilya Kovalchuk turned down an incredible offer from the KHL to stay in the NHL for less money. LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh and everyone else who signed a new contract with the Heat this summer all signed for LESS money for a chance to play with each other and a better chance at winning.

You post a STRIKE to show that professional athletes chase money? I don't think I can even laugh at how pathetic that is. You really just don't know what you're talking about. A strike occurs for a variety of issues. The LEAST of which even has anything to do with what I posted, anyways.

lowing wrote:

I won't even ask that if money is not an issue for professional athletes.....Why the fuck do they need agents?
I dunno lowing, if you get sent to court and you're so sure you're innocent, why do you need a lawyer?

They are employees in a business. Of course they want to get paid. But there are so many other factors that contribute to a decision in choosing a new team, none of which I'd expect you to think about it, because as I'm sure people will agree with me, the only one naive is you in your little secluded mountainous home.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6907|USA

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


Find me proof that it is. As an Islander fan and having been following an abysmal team for years, I didn't see Dan Hamhuis or Paul Martin (2 outstanding defenseman) coming to the team when they were offered more money than the Penguins did. But they knew they'd have a chance at a Stanley Cup with the Penguins, so they joined them.

You're wrong here lowing, don't even try.
well lets see, you gave 2 obscure players that no one has heard of, from a sport no one gives a fuck about.

I give you and entire baseball league and football league
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994–95_ … all_strike
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m … i_6710058/


I won't even ask that if money is not an issue for professional athletes.....Why the fuck do they need agents?

So for you to tell me that athletes don't chase big money is nothing short of naive.
Well, let's see. The biggest Free Agent in Baseball this offseason, Cliff Lee, signed with the Phillies instead of the Yankees for $50 million less. Ilya Kovalchuk turned down an incredible offer from the KHL to stay in the NHL for less money. LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh and everyone else who signed a new contract with the Heat this summer all signed for LESS money for a chance to play with each other and a better chance at winning.

You post a STRIKE to show that professional athletes chase money? I don't think I can even laugh at how pathetic that is. You really just don't know what you're talking about. A strike occurs for a variety of issues. The LEAST of which even has anything to do with what I posted, anyways.

lowing wrote:

I won't even ask that if money is not an issue for professional athletes.....Why the fuck do they need agents?
I dunno lowing, if you get sent to court and you're so sure you're innocent, why do you need a lawyer?

They are employees in a business. Of course they want to get paid. But there are so many other factors that contribute to a decision in choosing a new team, none of which I'd expect you to think about it, because as I'm sure people will agree with me, the only one naive is you in your little secluded mountainous home.
look buddy, I said most players, you give me a handful.

These league with their multimillion dollar players struck for more money. So stop with the hero worship of these assholes please.
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6994|Toronto | Canada

remember when this thread was actually about a congresswoman getting shot in the head? yeah me neither
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6793|Long Island, New York
I gave you arguably 3 of the best players currently playing in their sports. Don't you think they, of all people, would be the ones who want money the most? But they're not. It is a misnomer and is only true for very selfish athletes, and believe it or not, they're not very prevalent. You don't see lower teams pulling in high end FA's (unless they've shown that they have massive potential) just because they throw the bank at them. It very, very rarely happens.

Hero worship? You're the one saying professional athletes are supposed to be "roll" (lol) models, not me bub. The only "hero" I have in sports is Tony Siragusa for being able to play and not have a quadruple bypass. The rest of them, including my favorite athletes, are simply entertainers. I don't make them up to be anything more than that. You, ironically, do.
13rin
Member
+977|6735

JohnG@lt wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:


Sigh... How is that racist lest the defense be all white?  The media desirous comment?  Please -the media eats up "first black/woman/gay/lation to" ...
That and the fact that McNabb is an average QB at best no matter what color he is ... just ask the Redskins.
He's below average now. The comment was made when McNabb was in his prime.
Obama forgave strom thurmond and that fucker was a klansman.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
13rin
Member
+977|6735

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

I don't understand the hatred the left has for Palin tbh.
I don't understand the blind hatred she and a lot of the right have for the centre-left.

Liberals = Stalin !!!

Michael Moore must die !!

Al Gore is Satan incarnate !!

I don't get it.
It isn't blind hatred. We hate specific principals.

Liberals = Pussies not centre left.
Michael Moore = Activist Liberal with a camera
Al Gore = Activist Liberal on the other end of the camera lying outta his ass to line his pockets.

We know you don't get it.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6907|USA

Poseidon wrote:

I gave you arguably 3 of the best players currently playing in their sports. Don't you think they, of all people, would be the ones who want money the most? But they're not. It is a misnomer and is only true for very selfish athletes, and believe it or not, they're not very prevalent. You don't see lower teams pulling in high end FA's (unless they've shown that they have massive potential) just because they throw the bank at them. It very, very rarely happens.

Hero worship? You're the one saying professional athletes are supposed to be "roll" (lol) models, not me bub. The only "hero" I have in sports is Tony Siragusa for being able to play and not have a quadruple bypass. The rest of them, including my favorite athletes, are simply entertainers. I don't make them up to be anything more than that. You, ironically, do.
I say again, 2 entire leagues of professional athletes most if not all mulit-millionaires, went on strike for more money. DO not tell me money is not a motivating factor in their lives. You asked for proof I gave you 2 examples that included entire leagues. They fucked over their fans for money. Come to grips with it.

They are held as roll models, DON'T ASK ME WHY. I did not put them in that position, people like you who seem to follow their every move has. So do not get pissed at me for simply observing it.
13urnzz
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how the fuck did we get so off topic? 'it's what we do'.

i think the fact that a sitting congresswoman got shot will be a tempest in a teapot because
a) she's a woman
b)she's from Arizona, and
c) PEOPLE CAN"T GIVE A FLYING FUCK THAT A SITTING LAWMAKER WAS ASSAULTED IF THEIR FLAVOR OF POLITICS DON"T GET NO RUN FROM IT

fuck all y'all, you*ve missed the point that our very governing body was attacked with a firearm.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5957|College Park, MD
i just smelled my own fart
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5957|College Park, MD
i agree with ya burnzz, but this website is utter shit for any real discussion because we can all just hide behind our personas
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13urnzz
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thanks, hurri, but i cry real tears for the America that could have been - the right, and the left, have left a big crack in the middle for the assholes to take over. partisan fucktards. my bad, i meant "assholes" . . .
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6793|Long Island, New York

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I gave you arguably 3 of the best players currently playing in their sports. Don't you think they, of all people, would be the ones who want money the most? But they're not. It is a misnomer and is only true for very selfish athletes, and believe it or not, they're not very prevalent. You don't see lower teams pulling in high end FA's (unless they've shown that they have massive potential) just because they throw the bank at them. It very, very rarely happens.

Hero worship? You're the one saying professional athletes are supposed to be "roll" (lol) models, not me bub. The only "hero" I have in sports is Tony Siragusa for being able to play and not have a quadruple bypass. The rest of them, including my favorite athletes, are simply entertainers. I don't make them up to be anything more than that. You, ironically, do.
I say again, 2 entire leagues of professional athletes most if not all mulit-millionaires, went on strike for more money. DO not tell me money is not a motivating factor in their lives. You asked for proof I gave you 2 examples that included entire leagues. They fucked over their fans for money. Come to grips with it.

They are held as roll models, DON'T ASK ME WHY. I did not put them in that position, people like you who seem to follow their every move has. So do not get pissed at me for simply observing it.
You know lowing, I don't go into topics I don't know much about. Worldwide economy and globalization? Can't say I know much about either, certainly not enough to hold my own in a debate. Maybe you should start doing the same, because you obviously have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, how the players associations work with the league or why strikes even occur. You just think it's "oh, they want more money". I believe someone once said here that you view things in black and white only. I see why now.

And for fucks sake, you are a grown man and you consistently spell "role model" incorrectly. It's not even like it's a difficult word.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6701|The Land of Scott Walker

Poseidon wrote:

And nobody cares about NASCAR (as evidenced by you being the only one who consistently posts in the NASCAR thread) except stupid rednecks, so what's your point?
There's far more money in football, basketball, baseball, or NASCAR for that matter.  Given that fact, there it's far more likely that someone wanting more money would go to another team.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6793|Long Island, New York

burnzz wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

And nobody cares about NASCAR (as evidenced by you being the only one who consistently posts in the NASCAR thread) except stupid rednecks, so what's your point?
There's far more money in football, basketball, baseball, or NASCAR for that matter.  Given that fact, there it's far more likely that someone wanting more money would go to another team.
except republicans, amirite? they don't ask or tell about 'the other team'. they dehumanize anything that doesn't serve the top 2% of money earners in America, right?
Stop it, you won't get a suckup karma from Stingray.
Macbeth
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You know flaming people and making little 'high five' comments to each other doesn't make you guys look smart or anything. It makes you look like tools.
13urnzz
Banned
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Poseidon wrote:

burnzz wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:


There's far more money in football, basketball, baseball, or NASCAR for that matter.  Given that fact, there it's far more likely that someone wanting more money would go to another team.
except republicans, amirite? they don't ask or tell about 'the other team'. they dehumanize anything that doesn't serve the top 2% of money earners in America, right?
Stop it, you won't get a suckup karma from Stingray.
i could give a flying fuck about Stingray's karma, this topic has made me hate both Democrats and Republicans in equal measure.

i hate the partisanship this country has displayed like nothing i've hated before.

i just hope to live long enough to see

that America have a civil discourse again . . .
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6701|The Land of Scott Walker

burnzz wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

And nobody cares about NASCAR (as evidenced by you being the only one who consistently posts in the NASCAR thread) except stupid rednecks, so what's your point?
There's far more money in football, basketball, baseball, or NASCAR for that matter.  Given that fact, there it's far more likely that someone wanting more money would go to another team.
except republicans, amirite? they don't ask or tell about 'the other team'. they dehumanize anything that doesn't serve the top 2% of money earners in America, right?
We were discussing whether or not free agents go to other teams because of money.  So how you've brought Reps and Dems into this I'm not sure.  There's no money to be made in politics compared to sports.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6793|Long Island, New York

burnzz wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

burnzz wrote:

except republicans, amirite? they don't ask or tell about 'the other team'. they dehumanize anything that doesn't serve the top 2% of money earners in America, right?
Stop it, you won't get a suckup karma from Stingray.
i could give a flying fuck about Stingray's karma, this topic has made me hate both Democrats and Republicans in equal measure.

i hate the partisanship this country has displayed like nothing i've hated before.

i just hope to live long enough to see

that America have a civil discourse again . . .
I'm with you, dude. Believe me. Normally I'd not have engaged lowing in a discussion that's so off topic, but this thread is a lost cause. Mostly due to him. So I figured - fuck it. At least I'll get to expose him for the---wait, as if most people here don't already know exactly how lowing debates.

P.S., go back to the very first reply to the OP. Look who's the first one to play political victim. Surprised?

Last edited by Poseidon (2011-01-14 19:39:25)

13rin
Member
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Y'all are doing the exact thing Obama is telling you not to... . heh heh.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5841

Poseidon wrote:

burnzz wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Stop it, you won't get a suckup karma from Stingray.
i could give a flying fuck about Stingray's karma, this topic has made me hate both Democrats and Republicans in equal measure.

i hate the partisanship this country has displayed like nothing i've hated before.

i just hope to live long enough to see

that America have a civil discourse again . . .
I'm with you, dude. Believe me. Normally I'd not have engaged lowing in a discussion that's so off topic, but this thread is a lost cause. Mostly due to him. So I figured - fuck it. At least I'll get to expose him for the---wait, as if most people here don't already know exactly how lowing debates.
lol is this a joke? Really?

"Expose him" Seriously dude?

Dude it's an internet forum. If lowing pisses you off that much then you're taking this way too seriously and need to reevaluate your life a bit. Probably stop posting for awhile.

It may surprise some people on this forum but people will have different opinions than you in life. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that, they're entitled to have their opinions. It's a sign of maturity to respect other people's opinions and how other people feel.

Aside from that- if you want someone to see things your way or do something they are original against you don't convince them by yelling at them or by name calling. You'll be surprised how effective just not being a dick to someone can be.
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6753

i'm sorry, DB, i really am. this topic, about 'Congresswoman Shot', the physical attack on our national legislature and these fuckwits debating who knows what, scare the hell out of me - in my life only George Wallace was shot in office, and peoples are trying to gain from it.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6793|Long Island, New York

Macbeth wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

burnzz wrote:


i could give a flying fuck about Stingray's karma, this topic has made me hate both Democrats and Republicans in equal measure.

i hate the partisanship this country has displayed like nothing i've hated before.

i just hope to live long enough to see

that America have a civil discourse again . . .
I'm with you, dude. Believe me. Normally I'd not have engaged lowing in a discussion that's so off topic, but this thread is a lost cause. Mostly due to him. So I figured - fuck it. At least I'll get to expose him for the---wait, as if most people here don't already know exactly how lowing debates.
lol is this a joke? Really?

"Expose him" Seriously dude?

Dude it's an internet forum. If lowing pisses you off that much then you're taking this way too seriously and need to reevaluate your life a bit. Probably stop posting for awhile.

It may surprise some people on this forum but people will have different opinions than you in life. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that, they're entitled to have their opinions. It's a sign of maturity to respect other people's opinions and how other people feel.

Aside from that- if you want someone to see things your way or do something they are original against you don't convince them by yelling at them or by name calling. You'll be surprised how effective just not being a dick to someone can be.
Hahaha. Oh Macbeth. You really are the last one to be talking.
Macbeth
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Poseidon wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I'm with you, dude. Believe me. Normally I'd not have engaged lowing in a discussion that's so off topic, but this thread is a lost cause. Mostly due to him. So I figured - fuck it. At least I'll get to expose him for the---wait, as if most people here don't already know exactly how lowing debates.
lol is this a joke? Really?

"Expose him" Seriously dude?

Dude it's an internet forum. If lowing pisses you off that much then you're taking this way too seriously and need to reevaluate your life a bit. Probably stop posting for awhile.

It may surprise some people on this forum but people will have different opinions than you in life. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that, they're entitled to have their opinions. It's a sign of maturity to respect other people's opinions and how other people feel.

Aside from that- if you want someone to see things your way or do something they are original against you don't convince them by yelling at them or by name calling. You'll be surprised how effective just not being a dick to someone can be.
Hahaha. Oh Macbeth. You really are the last one to be talking.
How so? I don't flame people who disagree with me. I don't agree with lowing, DB, or Stingray on a lot of things. I think they'll all have trouble remembering times I flamed any of them.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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ooooooooooooooo

k.

Now, where was this topic?
13urnzz
Banned
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

ooooooooooooooo

k.

Now, where was this topic?
a Congresswoman got shot.

i will cease and desist, i thought it a national tragedy.

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