Who is FT?DBBrinson1 wrote:
Which is why I love the Constitution. Rights baby! So FT, how many guns do you have?
why not get both?
Because with a gun it doesn't matter if you're a 90 lb woman or a 300 lb roided out male.presidentsheep wrote:
Why are guns so inextricably linked to self defence for you guys?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I was trying to be courteous. First of all, originally, I wasn't even talking to you. I was adding information regarding the law with regards to what Teds said earlier. The truth matters, despite your personal agenda and interpretation of it. The word lowing didn't even enter my mind when replying to him. However, you're so confrontational, and perhaps attention starved, that you take every word on this forum as a direct insult to your opinion.lowing wrote:
can you do more than tell me I am wrong? Because I can not find anywhere where self defense is a "good reason" for gun ownership in EnglandKmar wrote:
You are wrong, simply accept it and move on.lowing wrote:
what is the difference? self defense is not reason enough to ALLOW you to own a firearm in England, so stop with the semantics about it regarding the context of this discussion..
http://www.jpands.org/hacienda/article15.html
"British women (like men) have no such right to self-defense and are barred from having handguns for self-protection in the home (i.e., when attacked, they are suppose to flee and leave their homes to their assailants hoping they can escape), not to mention the ability to carry concealed guns for self-defense when accosted in the streets."
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I am sorry, what did I miss? YOu told me I was wrong and to accept it.. I merely asked to be shown how I was wrong, then I linked to where I showed where I got my information.Kmar wrote:
I was trying to be courteous. First of all, originally, I wasn't even talking to you. I was adding information regarding the law with regards to what Teds said earlier. The truth matters, despite your personal agenda and interpretation of it. The word lowing didn't even enter my mind when replying to him. However, you're so confrontational, and perhaps attention starved, that you take every word on this forum as a direct insult to your opinion.lowing wrote:
can you do more than tell me I am wrong? Because I can not find anywhere where self defense is a "good reason" for gun ownership in EnglandKmar wrote:
You are wrong, simply accept it and move on.
http://www.jpands.org/hacienda/article15.html
"British women (like men) have no such right to self-defense and are barred from having handguns for self-protection in the home (i.e., when attacked, they are suppose to flee and leave their homes to their assailants hoping they can escape), not to mention the ability to carry concealed guns for self-defense when accosted in the streets."
I didn't say that training would be long and drawn out. It's just a matter of instruction.JohnG@lt wrote:
You keep harping on training. What training? It takes less than a day to become proficient with a firearm. Learn how to load, learn how to use the safety, learn not to point at anything you don't intend to shoot, learn to squeeze the trigger instead of pulling and learn how to properly store it. There's really nothing to it. Accuracy only comes with practice.Turquoise wrote:
I think he's suggesting that the training that many gun owners lack is part of the problem of allowing the public to have guns without some sort of training requirement involved.SenorToenails wrote:
No, but conversely you can't just walk into a shop and buy the proficiency to use a firearm, now can you?
I could teach you all you need to know about the proper use of a firearm inside of an hour.
We require driving tests for a driver's license, so a test for gun licenses seems reasonable.
cuz well, the both will cost me a 1000 bucks each.krazed wrote:
why not get both?
Well this is $400+ cheaper than either one of those. http://www.impactguns.com/store/706397866709.htmllowing wrote:
Oh let me see I own:
Glock 30 .45 ACP
My boys own:
M4 rifle
Remington 870 tactical shotgun ( perfect for home defense)
Mosan Nagant WW2 Russian infantry rifle
Ak-47 chamberd in 5.56
each owns a Ruger 10/22
Beretta M9 pistol
We love to shoot them all.
I am torn however on my next purchase either a Springfield micro cmp 1911 or a Kimber ultra carry 2 1911 any advice?
oh and my glock 30 is my carry weapon 11 rounds of .45 ACP I feel protected
Make X-meds a full member, for the sake of 15 year old anal gangbang porn watchers everywhere!
although gun ownership is a right for the law abiding citizen.. I have no problem with a mandatory gun safety class, as well as a class covering the laws of the state of which you carry.Turquoise wrote:
I didn't say that training would be long and drawn out. It's just a matter of instruction.JohnG@lt wrote:
You keep harping on training. What training? It takes less than a day to become proficient with a firearm. Learn how to load, learn how to use the safety, learn not to point at anything you don't intend to shoot, learn to squeeze the trigger instead of pulling and learn how to properly store it. There's really nothing to it. Accuracy only comes with practice.Turquoise wrote:
I think he's suggesting that the training that many gun owners lack is part of the problem of allowing the public to have guns without some sort of training requirement involved.
I could teach you all you need to know about the proper use of a firearm inside of an hour.
We require driving tests for a driver's license, so a test for gun licenses seems reasonable.
yeah i know, but I really like the finish on the CMP and some of the ultra carry'sROGUEDD wrote:
Well this is $400+ cheaper than either one of those. http://www.impactguns.com/store/706397866709.htmllowing wrote:
Oh let me see I own:
Glock 30 .45 ACP
My boys own:
M4 rifle
Remington 870 tactical shotgun ( perfect for home defense)
Mosan Nagant WW2 Russian infantry rifle
Ak-47 chamberd in 5.56
each owns a Ruger 10/22
Beretta M9 pistol
We love to shoot them all.
I am torn however on my next purchase either a Springfield micro cmp 1911 or a Kimber ultra carry 2 1911 any advice?
oh and my glock 30 is my carry weapon 11 rounds of .45 ACP I feel protected
One major problem I have with classes, registration and permits is the costs and time involved. It's a right in this country, you shouldn't have to pay to exercise your right. Some people don't have the time or money to jump through the hoops. Just because they can't put aside the time or money doesn't mean they don't have a legitimate need for a firearm. The gun and ammo costs enough as it is. Lets say your sister had a bad break up with her boyfriend and suddenly feels the need for a firearm. You should be able to give or loan one of yours. Under the law in many places you'd both be breaking the law...... and that ain't right. Plus the government has no business knowing what guns I own, it only makes it easier for them to take them away if they feel the need.
me i think.SenorToenails wrote:
Who is FT?DBBrinson1 wrote:
Which is why I love the Constitution. Rights baby! So FT, how many guns do you have?
none, because i can't afford them (21yr old student).
Will i get some, yes.
(probably from the gun shop 5miles from my house - yes, we too have gun shops on highstreets)
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Teds, i thought i saw a pic of you shooting a shotgun . . .
you did, i've been shooting quite a bit (both family and military)
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Don't forget to hide it under your coat whenever you leave the house when you do get it, just in case you ever need to shoot some criminals or take down a government
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
FatherTed wrote:
you did, i've been shooting quite a bit (both family and military)
Make X-meds a full member, for the sake of 15 year old anal gangbang porn watchers everywhere!
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Use an umbrella
presidentsheep wrote:
Seatbelts were designed to kill people to? Shit, it's a conspiracy.Pug wrote:
I've decided, based on your argument, that I will never wear a seat belt again. I am a good driver, and therefore will never get in an accident.
godwins law is a humorous little thing to deal with pathetic forum trolls like yourself.
Right.FatherTed wrote:
me i think.SenorToenails wrote:
Who is FT?DBBrinson1 wrote:
Which is why I love the Constitution. Rights baby! So FT, how many guns do you have?
none, because i can't afford them (21yr old student).
Will i get some, yes.
(probably from the gun shop 5miles from my house - yes, we too have gun shops on highstreets)
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
@ presidentsheep:DBBrinson1 wrote:
Right.FatherTed wrote:
me i think.SenorToenails wrote:
Who is FT?
none, because i can't afford them (21yr old student).
Will i get some, yes.
(probably from the gun shop 5miles from my house - yes, we too have gun shops on highstreets)
You're ignorant.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Not for long in WI, we finally got rid of our crook of a Democratic governor.Turquoise wrote:
It looks like Illinois and Wisconsin are very restrictive.
I feel sorry for Palin and the blood libel mishap. At least she is working on it.
"Took video down. Sorry for offending Jews. My camp is concentrating on better one. Final solution soon."
"Took video down. Sorry for offending Jews. My camp is concentrating on better one. Final solution soon."
No. It's people like you that make her relevant. Shut up and she may just go away.AussieReaper wrote:
I feel sorry for Palin and the blood libel mishap. At least she is working on it.
"Took video down. Sorry for offending Jews. My camp is concentrating on better one. Final solution soon."
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
eh you know that term was used in the new york post or whatever the day before, right?AussieReaper wrote:
I feel sorry for Palin and the blood libel mishap. At least she is working on it.
"Took video down. Sorry for offending Jews. My camp is concentrating on better one. Final solution soon."
She could very well be a Presidential Candidate come the next election. How is she not relevant in the world of politics?