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2010-12-19 04:06:40

#26

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6896|London, England

You're saying that it's the same kicking out gays for being gay as it is for kicking a nazi skinhead out for being a nazi skinhead. Why not kick everyone out then? Kick christians out for being christian. White people out for being white. If you're gonna make silly comparisons you might aswell do it for everything.

The whole point was that it was dumb to kick someone out for being gay. You're not gonna find alot of people who agree with you that kicking a nazi skinhead out would be just as dumb and discriminatory. And if you can't see the differences between a gay person and a nazi skinhead, well there's not much anyone can do about that.

2010-12-19 04:09:52

#27

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

thats your moral judgment...someone elses may be different.

i dont care if gays are in the military......but calling it a civil rights issue bothers me a little.

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2010-12-19 04:17:13

#28

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6896|London, England

Yeah because firing people for being gay isn't a civil rights issue? The fact that you then assume that if it is, then nazi skinheads getting fired is also a civil rights issue, is just plain immature, then again that's nothing new either.

Ok, fair enough, it's all down to personal moral reasons as to whether gays and nazi skinheads are the same category. You think that they're just as bad as each other, I think there's a difference. Each to his own.

I'm guessing if you're fine with gays then you're probably fine with nazi's being in the military too then

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2010-12-19 04:21:22

#29

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

Mekstizzle wrote:
Yeah because firing people for being gay isn't a civil rights issue? The fact that you then assume that if it is, then nazi skinheads getting fired is also a civil rights issue, is just plain immature, then again that's nothing new either.

Ok, fair enough, it's all down to personal moral reasons as to whether gays and nazi skinheads are the same category. You think that they're just as bad as each other, I think there's a difference. Each to his own.

no you stupid fuck. i dont think being gay is bad. but why is a nazi skinhead bad? i mean if it isnt a choice that is. guess it depends on whether you believe what is a choice and what is not. but what a shock you make up shit in your head and spew them out.

2010-12-19 04:23:35

#30

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

Mekstizzle wrote:
I'm guessing if you're fine with gays then you're probably fine with nazi's being in the military too then

i dont think you should exclude groups based on moral judgements.....hence dadt...right?

2010-12-19 04:41:06

#31

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6896|London, England

you make up shit in your head and spew them out

why is a nazi skinhead bad? i mean if it isnt a choice that is

lol, you talk to me about making up shit, and then you keep arguing that being a nazi skinhead isn't a choice and is just natural like being gay is. The idea that firing people for being gay isn't just bad because allegedly people have no choice about being gay or not. I'm not gonna bother explaining what's bad about a nazi skinhead (or in comparison to being gay). You should have made these compelling arguments to your superior officers, family and friends and seen what they would have thought.

I don't know whether you're trying to play devils advocate or whether you really are just stupid or trolling, or probably somewhere in between all of that.

2010-12-19 04:47:39

#32

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND??????????????????????????

I said IF you believe it is not a choice. that is still up for debate.

2010-12-19 04:48:24

#33

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

ugh im done speaking with you. you get the mmmf mmmf mmmf treatment...Mr Mekbunny

2010-12-19 04:53:49

#34

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6896|London, England

11 Bravo wrote:
ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND??????????????????????????

I said IF you believe it is not a choice. that is still up for debate.

What debate. Even if gay is not a choice, or is a choice. Or being a nazi is not a choice, or is a choice. It's besides the point. I already said that. Go all the way back to what I said originally when I said it's all about whether or not you think being gay is the same as being a nazi as that's the only way you can make the comparison, genetics/choice is besides the point in a case like this.

Either way being a nazi is much worse than being gay. If you can't see that then whatever.

2010-12-19 04:55:35

#35

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

i can see that. but that is OUR moral judgement. Some people think the other way. Who is wrong? Who is right?

2010-12-19 04:59:15

#36

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6896|London, England

They're wrong. Fucking World War Two already answered that.

2010-12-19 05:45:04

#37

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6743

No one posted this yet?

BF2s, I am disappoint.

2010-12-19 05:53:03

#38

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

well maybe most people are tired of the same old predictable crap

2010-12-19 05:58:55

#39

jord: Member; +2,382|6953|The North, beyond the wall.

Muscles are required intelligence not essential.

2010-12-19 06:22:23

#40

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5633|London, England

11B, here's the differences...

A) People are born gay. It's not a belief system that they adopt later in life.
B) Gay people don't preach hatred towards others.
C) Gay people really are no different from other people except for the fact they happen to like people of their sex.
D) Gay people weren't responsible for tens of millions of deaths in the 21st century. Nazi's were.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-12-19 06:28:38

#41

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7050|Moscow, Russia

JohnG@lt wrote:
A) People are born gay. It's not a belief system that they adopt later in life.

i don't think this have been sufficiently proven yet.

i mostly agree with the rest though.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-12-19 06:30:10

#42

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

JohnG@lt wrote:
11B, here's the differences...

A) People are born gay. It's not a belief system that they adopt later in life.
B) Gay people don't preach hatred towards others.
C) Gay people really are no different from other people except for the fact they happen to like people of their sex.
D) Gay people weren't responsible for tens of millions of deaths in the 21st century. Nazi's were.

A) apparently debatable

the rest is your moral judgement

2010-12-19 06:31:50

#43

jord: Member; +2,382|6953|The North, beyond the wall.

What about gay skinhead nazi's?

2010-12-19 06:32:26

#44

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5633|London, England

jord wrote:
What about gay skinhead nazi's?

That's some planet sized self loathing going on...

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-12-19 06:35:21

#45

jord: Member; +2,382|6953|The North, beyond the wall.

JohnG@lt wrote:
jord wrote:
What about gay skinhead nazi's?
That's some planet sized self loathing going on...

They j ust want a hug, and a kiss, and some tongue action...

2010-12-19 06:38:09

#46

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|7007|St. Andrews / Oslo

Shahter wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
A) People are born gay. It's not a belief system that they adopt later in life.
i don't think this have been sufficiently proven yet.

i mostly agree with the rest though.

Would you say it's your 'choice' to be attracted to females (assuming you're straight)? Do you think you can force yourself to be physically, sexually, attracted to another male?

I know I couldn't. And that's enough proof for me, really.

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2010-12-19 06:47:29

#47

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7050|Moscow, Russia

Jenspm wrote:
Shahter wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
A) People are born gay. It's not a belief system that they adopt later in life.
i don't think this have been sufficiently proven yet.

i mostly agree with the rest though.
Would you say it's your 'choice' to be attracted to females (assuming you're straight)? Do you think you can force yourself to be physically, sexually, attracted to another male?

I know I couldn't. And that's enough proof for me, really.

no, i can't. but i can't speak for everybody out there. some people have been know to change their sexual prefferences - would you say they are all pervs or have been hiding it in fear of being repressed by the society?

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-12-19 06:48:04

#48

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5976|College Park, MD

hey guys what if evolution didn't happen?

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2010-12-19 06:55:59

#49

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7050|Moscow, Russia

then were did gays come from? god created both adam and eve heterosexual, right?

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-12-19 06:59:42

#50

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5633|London, England

Shahter wrote:
then were did gays come from? god created both adam and eve heterosexual, right?

And incestual.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

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