BF2S Forums The American Right vs. The American Left

Here they spend money to create dependency thus solidifying their power base.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Australian Greens are more like Marxists if you actually read their manifesto.

So are American Greens.

Uzique wrote:

france had their timing about right when they announced the intellectual, philosophical and political death of marxism

as per usual... rest of the world is waiting to catch up with the bloody french

Then what term would you use to describe French society? Looks pretty damn socialist to me...

JohnG@lt wrote:

Uzique wrote:

france had their timing about right when they announced the intellectual, philosophical and political death of marxism

as per usual... rest of the world is waiting to catch up with the bloody french

Then what term would you use to describe French society? Looks pretty damn socialist to me...

sorry, are you equating socialism with marxism? yeah i mean the french haven't progressed at all since the communes

i love how anything lefter than dead-centre for americans is HOLY SHIT! COMMUNISM!

and no, oug... i'm taking a unit this term on american philosophy and self-identity in literature and thought, and some of the big names of the 20th century are the likes of rorty and delbanco. of course they build on dewey, james, whitman, emerson, thoreau etc. but that's just the nature of political science and philosophy, isn't it? it's all referential and historical.

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JohnG@lt wrote:

Uzique wrote:

france had their timing about right when they announced the intellectual, philosophical and political death of marxism

as per usual... rest of the world is waiting to catch up with the bloody french

Then what term would you use to describe French society? Looks pretty damn socialist to me...

Yeah, Marxism is related to but still quite different from socialism.

Then again, Communism as practiced by the USSR and China is quite different from what Marx proposed.

The closest thing to true Marxism that has actually been practiced is anarcho-syndicalism.

Marx was actually more of a left wing anarchist than what we typically think of regarding Communists.

Shahter wrote:

communism was never - could never - be practiced by anybody. communism is an utopia - a pefect system unachievable by definition. what was practiced by ussr was communism in name only - it'sa about time you realised that, people.

Well yeah...  Communism was the abolition of the state.  A Communist state is a contradiction in terms, technically.  Granted, that is the more commonly recognized political system when referring to Communism colloquially.