you might need to look up the definition of conservatism and liberalism in Australia. They have completely different meanings than Europe and NA do.Turquoise wrote:
Granted, I'm in the middle. I'm considered a liberal in most respects in America, but I would be considered a conservative in most of Europe, Canada, and Australia..
War Man wrote:
you might need to look up the definition of conservatism and liberalism in Australia. They have completely different meanings than Europe and NA do.Turquoise wrote:
Granted, I'm in the middle. I'm considered a liberal in most respects in America, but I would be considered a conservative in most of Europe, Canada, and Australia..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_AustraliaConservativism in Australia covers similar political issues as found in other Western democracies.
are you posting this from a computer made entirely from your own blood sweat and tears?11 Bravo wrote:
no whats ridiculous is we buy ipods and other crap we dont need which is made from minerals from the Congo and from those profits they fund war. so when you are listening to your ipod or playing with your droid be thankful you are helping to rape and murder people. that is the stuff you should really be worried about instead of your anti right wing threads.
no but its not made from any minerals from africa. your move.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
are you posting this from a computer made entirely from your own blood sweat and tears?11 Bravo wrote:
no whats ridiculous is we buy ipods and other crap we dont need which is made from minerals from the Congo and from those profits they fund war. so when you are listening to your ipod or playing with your droid be thankful you are helping to rape and murder people. that is the stuff you should really be worried about instead of your anti right wing threads.
I'll bet the microchips inside it have doping elements from Africa.11 Bravo wrote:
no but its not made from any minerals from africa. your move.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
are you posting this from a computer made entirely from your own blood sweat and tears?11 Bravo wrote:
no whats ridiculous is we buy ipods and other crap we dont need which is made from minerals from the Congo and from those profits they fund war. so when you are listening to your ipod or playing with your droid be thankful you are helping to rape and murder people. that is the stuff you should really be worried about instead of your anti right wing threads.
erm how can you guarantee that?11 Bravo wrote:
no but its not made from any minerals from africa. your move.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
are you posting this from a computer made entirely from your own blood sweat and tears?11 Bravo wrote:
no whats ridiculous is we buy ipods and other crap we dont need which is made from minerals from the Congo and from those profits they fund war. so when you are listening to your ipod or playing with your droid be thankful you are helping to rape and murder people. that is the stuff you should really be worried about instead of your anti right wing threads.
70 years? Really? See, this is the kind of hyperbole that makes political debates futile oftentimes.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
They want bi-partisanship and co-operation cause they lost power. When they had it all they were like
" bend em over and give it to em in the ass "
" Hey shut up you lost "
" the elections over "
" they have to sit in the back of the bus "
For the record they have not created anything that hasn't become a disaster or a failure in the last 70 years. Everything they run, they run poorly. They have very little creditability left with experienced people, hence the attempt to hide under a New Label " No-Label " only a real dolt wont know who they are. Almost every disaster can trace its origins to something they had a hand in. Telling people you " care more and mean well " should only go so far with and intellegent educated voter. Clearly it's time for some other course before all is lost. This is the last stand I can think of no other place to go.
why is it LOL to avoid buying shit made from stuff from the congo?Uzique wrote:
erm how can you guarantee that?11 Bravo wrote:
no but its not made from any minerals from africa. your move.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
are you posting this from a computer made entirely from your own blood sweat and tears?
lol usmarine is henry david thoreau or some shit
I'M ALL AMERICAN
How do you know? I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I'm genuinely interested. If there are certain manufacturers known for getting their parts through fair labor, I'm all ears.11 Bravo wrote:
no but its not made from any minerals from africa. your move.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
are you posting this from a computer made entirely from your own blood sweat and tears?11 Bravo wrote:
no whats ridiculous is we buy ipods and other crap we dont need which is made from minerals from the Congo and from those profits they fund war. so when you are listening to your ipod or playing with your droid be thankful you are helping to rape and murder people. that is the stuff you should really be worried about instead of your anti right wing threads.
well the enough project ranks and tracks companies. go have a look.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
How do you know? I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I'm genuinely interested. If there are certain manufacturers known for getting their parts through fair labor, I'm all ears.11 Bravo wrote:
no but its not made from any minerals from africa. your move.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
are you posting this from a computer made entirely from your own blood sweat and tears?
lol11 Bravo wrote:
its not made from any minerals from africa..Hurricane2k9 wrote:
are you posting this from a computer made entirely from your own blood sweat and tears?11 Bravo wrote:
no whats ridiculous is we buy ipods and other crap we dont need which is made from minerals from the Congo and from those profits they fund war. so when you are listening to your ipod or playing with your droid be thankful you are helping to rape and murder people. that is the stuff you should really be worried about instead of your anti right wing threads.
nvidia? no. and intel is on their list as responsible companies. anything else?Uzique wrote:
so you're not using an ati or nvidia graphics card? or an intel or amd processor? interesting
shut up you dumbfuck. go get laid for once.Mekstizzle wrote:
lol11 Bravo wrote:
its not made from any minerals from africa..Hurricane2k9 wrote:
are you posting this from a computer made entirely from your own blood sweat and tears?
i find it almost impossible to believe that these huge tech companies are not sourcing any rare material or labour at all from africa/third-world11 Bravo wrote:
nvidia? no. and intel is on their list as responsible companies. anything else?Uzique wrote:
so you're not using an ati or nvidia graphics card? or an intel or amd processor? interesting
Agreed. Granted, Intel is possibly more reputable about it than the industry norm. Maybe that's more what Bravo is getting at.Uzique wrote:
i find it almost impossible to believe that these huge tech companies are not sourcing any rare material or labour at all from africa/third-world11 Bravo wrote:
nvidia? no. and intel is on their list as responsible companies. anything else?Uzique wrote:
so you're not using an ati or nvidia graphics card? or an intel or amd processor? interesting
are you listening to me? i never said not from the third world. i said the congo.Uzique wrote:
i find it almost impossible to believe that these huge tech companies are not sourcing any rare material or labour at all from africa/third-world11 Bravo wrote:
nvidia? no. and intel is on their list as responsible companies. anything else?Uzique wrote:
so you're not using an ati or nvidia graphics card? or an intel or amd processor? interesting
Sort of... The Liberal Party of Australia is somewhat libertarian and would be considered the main conservative party of Australia. For obvious reasons, this terminology can be somewhat confusing for outsiders. They share many of the economic views of Republicans here while sharing many of the social views of Democrats. In this respect, they are classical liberals.War Man wrote:
you might need to look up the definition of conservatism and liberalism in Australia. They have completely different meanings than Europe and NA do.Turquoise wrote:
Granted, I'm in the middle. I'm considered a liberal in most respects in America, but I would be considered a conservative in most of Europe, Canada, and Australia..
why would you give a shit about such a particular place and then not care about the others?11 Bravo wrote:
are you listening to me? i never said not from the third world. i said the congo.Uzique wrote:
i find it almost impossible to believe that these huge tech companies are not sourcing any rare material or labour at all from africa/third-world11 Bravo wrote:
nvidia? no. and intel is on their list as responsible companies. anything else?
i do care about the other places, but they arent funding genocide in Taiwan.Uzique wrote:
why would you give a shit about such a particular place and then not care about the others?11 Bravo wrote:
are you listening to me? i never said not from the third world. i said the congo.Uzique wrote:
i find it almost impossible to believe that these huge tech companies are not sourcing any rare material or labour at all from africa/third-world
why even have such a principled ethics when you don't care about the congos next-door neighbours? makes no sense at all
Yes Really and I'm not even sure the C.C.C. was a liberal creation so maybe longer maybe never !Turquoise wrote:
70 years? Really? .Hunter/Jumper wrote:
They want bi-partisanship and co-operation cause they lost power. When they had it all they were like
1. " bend em over and give it to em in the ass "
2. " Hey shut up you lost "
3. " the elections over "
4. " they have to sit in the back of the bus "
For the record they have not created anything that hasn't become a disaster or a failure in the last 70 years. Everything they run, they run poorly. They have very little creditability left with experienced people, hence the attempt to hide under a New Label " No-Label " only a real dolt wont know who they are. Almost every disaster can trace its origins to something they had a hand in. Telling people you " care more and mean well " should only go so far with and intelligent educated voter. Clearly it's time for some other course before all is lost. This is the last stand I can think of no other place to go.
Since I listed Four direct quotes from well known liberal/democratsSee, this is the kind of hyperbole that makes political debates futile oftentimes.
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A couple are. Turnbull, Hockey etc. are classical liberals. Others, like Minchin, Abbott etc. are genuine conservatives. Others are just right-wing populists without a clue.Turquoise wrote:
Sort of... The Liberal Party of Australia is somewhat libertarian and would be considered the main conservative party of Australia. For obvious reasons, this terminology can be somewhat confusing for outsiders. They share many of the economic views of Republicans here while sharing many of the social views of Democrats. In this respect, they are classical liberals.War Man wrote:
you might need to look up the definition of conservatism and liberalism in Australia. They have completely different meanings than Europe and NA do.Turquoise wrote:
Granted, I'm in the middle. I'm considered a liberal in most respects in America, but I would be considered a conservative in most of Europe, Canada, and Australia..
Basically.The Australian Labor Party is the main party in Australia that can be analogized with liberalism in America. However, this party is much more in favor of government control of media than most Democrats here. In this respect, they can be seen as economically liberal but somewhat socially conservative. This would make them populists overall.
You wouldn't want to be a member of the libs. Some of the shit they put out (WorkChoices lol), you have to wonder whether a monkey is writing their policy. Some of it is good though, but it's not worth being a member of.So, to correct what I said earlier, I'd probably be a moderate member of the Liberal Party of Australia if I lived there, although I also find much in common with the Australian Greens.
