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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

dayarath wrote:

I'm not really anti-gun, but I still find it ridiculous you can purchase a handgun with such ease, it's only logical to assume that that's part of the problem.

No matter what restrictions you put on them, as long as you can get one, people will say you can purchase one with too much ease.

too true.... we still hear that one here all the time

and you're from.... ?


what are the restrictions you face on the purchase, storage, and use of handguns?

Last edited by krazed (2010-12-15 11:15:25)

Kmar wrote:

Areas with high concentrations of immigrants generally have high levels of violent crime. I can tell you for a fact that Miami is a lot more dangerous than Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville ..etc.

well lets be truthful here.....

thats why they left their countries right?  cuz they are shit.  well these people made it shit.  now they bring their shit here. 



ya call it racist you bf2s forum white knights.......but its the truth and everyone knows it

11 Bravo wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Areas with high concentrations of immigrants generally have high levels of violent crime. I can tell you for a fact that Miami is a lot more dangerous than Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville ..etc.

well lets be truthful here.....

thats why they left their countries right?  cuz they are shit.  well these people made it shit.  now they bring their shit here. 



ya call it racist you bf2s forum white knights.......but its the truth and everyone knows it

Poor people commit crime no matter what their color is. White trash, black trash, brown trash, yellow trash. It's all the same.

I know that. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "their shit" though. Their poverty? Certainly; they probably didn't have many skills there and they wouldn't magically get many skills here.

11 Bravo wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

they probably didn't have many skills there and they wouldn't magically get many skills here.

yes so what good are they other than employing more policemen?

they cook your double downs

dayarath wrote:

I'm not really anti-gun, but I still find it ridiculous you can purchase a handgun with such ease, it's only logical to assume that that's part of the problem.

St. Petersburg I believe beat out Miami followed by Jacksonville this year.  Guns are the problem er no... Just think if the little old lady had a handgun in her purse.

krazed wrote:

and you're from.... ?


what are the restrictions you face on the purchase, storage, and use of handguns?

Australia...
If you're really interested you can find more info,
Here and here, but basically...

Licensing:
All persons wishing to obtain a firearms licence must have a genuine reason for obtaining the licence and must meet a range of legislative requirements relating to that genuine reason. Self-defence is not accepted as a reason for issuing a licence. If you are applying for a licence for the first time you will need to complete a Firearms Safety Training Course.

Permit to Acquire:
If you wish to acquire a firearm on your licence or permit, you must first make application to the Firearms Registry, the purchase or disposal of any firearm must be conducted by a licensed Firearms Dealer. You may only acquire a particular type of firearm if you hold the corresponding category of licence for that firearm. A separate PTA application form must be completed for each firearm and you must have 'good reason' for acquiring the firearm. For initial PTA's, there is a mandatory 28 day waiting period.

Storage:
When a firearm is not actually being used or carried, it must be stored in a locked steel safe which is bolted to the structure of the premises. Any ammunition must be stored in a locked container and kept separate from the safe containing the firearms. When transporting, the firearms must be unloaded, with the ammunition kept in a locked container separate from the firearms. They must be rendered temporarily incapable of being fired (eg by removal of the bolt/firing mechanism or the use of trigger locks) and must be kept in a locked container that is properly secured to, or is within the vehicle.

Use:
Can only be used for their intended use or at licensed shooting clubs or ranges.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

dayarath wrote:

I'm not really anti-gun, but I still find it ridiculous you can purchase a handgun with such ease, it's only logical to assume that that's part of the problem.

St. Petersburg I believe beat out Miami followed by Jacksonville this year.  Guns are the problem er no... Just think if the little old lady had a handgun in her purse.

Intersting, where did you read that? I live in the Tampa/St.Pete area.. and I've also lived in South Florida. South Florida not only seems more dangerous, it usually comes out high statistically in violence. I was talking to one of my cuban friends tonight and I told him about this topic.. I told him how i said fresh off the boat Cubans were dangerous .. he laughed, and then in a very serious tone he said, well yea. ..lol

DrunkFace wrote:

Self-defence is not accepted as a reason for issuing a licence.

So does everyone just get on their knees and beg for mercy as they're being assaulted? Pray that the cops show up in less than 10 minutes while some burglar is in their home?

The United States does not issue firearms licenses. The states do, and every state has their own legislation. No matter how many times I say it, it never sinks in when we have this debate.

EVieira wrote:

Kmar wrote:

EVieira wrote:

Yeah, blame it on the immigrants... Cubans account for less than 2% of the Florida inmate population, according to the Florida Department of Corrections.

Miami has one of the nations highest violent crime rate.
http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime3.aspx

Also, check your link. I fail to see where you got your 2% statistic, although it has relatively limited value when determining actual criminal activity. .. and we're also not just talking about 1st generation immigrants. We're talking about the sons and daughters of the Cuban crime wave (2nd and third generation Cuban-Americans). Those aren't what would be considered true aliens "one who does not have U.S. citizenship".

Cubans account for 1.952 inmates in the Florida correctional facilities. The total number of inmates is 100.894. That accounts for  1.9% of the inmate population. If they are responsible for a majority of the crimes in Florida then are crime geniuses, because they aren't getting caught like the rest of the inmate population.

Now where do you get your numbers about "2nd wave" Cubans? And how do you now they are responsible for all those crimes? Yeah, just blame it on the immigrants sons...

That's right, they generally aren't getting caught because they operate in neighborhoods that stay quiet. Not because they are "geniuses". The professional criminal isn't like Billy Joe down the street, who got drunk and molested your cow. Cubans, and immigrants in general, are very reluctant to turn on each other or come forward because they, or someone they know, may be here illegally. It is also part of their culture. Try talking to a Cuban, they "take care of their own business". Have you been to (real) Miami? Your primary defense is based on some stats you googled. Make an effort to keep your mockery and arrogance in check, you haven't earned it yet. I know you really feel like you learned something when you decided to take up your immigrant-profiling-is-bad cause by happenstance. Unfortunately reality paints a very different picture.

What numbers did I present you with? It's logic. Look at when the first crime wave hit, the 80's. It only makes sense that children born in the 80s would now be the the young adults involved in what-is-now, on average, one of the most violent cities in the United States.

.. and let me be clear again. Some of my closest friends are Cubans. And they will back up everything I said here. I'm not taking a shot at their race. I'm talking about certain aspects of culture. The quick to defend and politically correct never seem to get the difference.

Kmar wrote:

EVieira wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Miami has one of the nations highest violent crime rate.
http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime3.aspx

Also, check your link. I fail to see where you got your 2% statistic, although it has relatively limited value when determining actual criminal activity. .. and we're also not just talking about 1st generation immigrants. We're talking about the sons and daughters of the Cuban crime wave (2nd and third generation Cuban-Americans). Those aren't what would be considered true aliens "one who does not have U.S. citizenship".

Cubans account for 1.952 inmates in the Florida correctional facilities. The total number of inmates is 100.894. That accounts for  1.9% of the inmate population. If they are responsible for a majority of the crimes in Florida then are crime geniuses, because they aren't getting caught like the rest of the inmate population.

Now where do you get your numbers about "2nd wave" Cubans? And how do you now they are responsible for all those crimes? Yeah, just blame it on the immigrants sons...

That's right, they generally aren't getting caught because they operate in neighborhoods that stay quiet. Not because they are "geniuses". The professional criminal isn't like Billy Joe down the street, who got drunk and molested your cow. Cubans, and immigrants in general, are very reluctant to turn on each other or come forward because they, or someone they know, may be here illegally. It is also part of their culture. Try talking to a Cuban, they "take care of their own business". Have you been to (real) Miami? Your primary defense is based on some stats you googled. Make an effort to keep your mockery and arrogance in check, you haven't earned it yet. I know you really feel like you learned something when you decided to take up your immigrant-profiling-is-bad cause by happenstance. Unfortunately reality paints a very different picture.

What numbers did I present you with? It's logic. Look at when the first crime wave hit, the 80's. It only makes sense that children born in the 80s would now be the the young adults involved in what-is-now, on average, one of the most violent cities in the United States.

.. and let me be clear again. Some of my closest friends are Cubans. And they will back up everything I said here. I'm not taking a shot at their race. I'm talking about certain aspects of culture. The quick to defend and politically correct never seem to get the difference.

nigga got told