Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6744

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I only saw one cop with a gun drawn.

I assume it was video tape from the stores video camera and not some stock footage added for effect ala M. Moore.
I couldn't see what he was pointing it at and why he felt the need to, so I can't second guess him.

They should have

1. Without prior warning - Thrown Grenades in the Children's bed room windows at dawn.
2. Shot the dogs and puppies that were penned up in kennels.
3. Rammed and collapsed the stairs and doorways with an Armored Fighting Vehicle to prevent escape.
4. Pumped High concentrations of extremely flammable teargas in watch it burn to the ground with the children they were "rescuing" still inside.
5. Then, like in any real crime scene investigation, Bring in a bulldozer and clear the site.
Too bad that those raw food nuts didn't rape children, fire on federal employees, or stockpile explosives.
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6943

Milk Advisory Board lobbyist...  Gotta protect the products reputation.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6972|NJ

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I only saw one cop with a gun drawn.

I assume it was video tape from the stores video camera and not some stock footage added for effect ala M. Moore.
I couldn't see what he was pointing it at and why he felt the need to, so I can't second guess him.

They should have

1. Without prior warning - Thrown Grenades in the Children's bed room windows at dawn.
2. Shot the dogs and puppies that were penned up in kennels.
3. Rammed and collapsed the stairs and doorways with an Armored Fighting Vehicle to prevent escape.
4. Pumped High concentrations of extremely flammable teargas in watch it burn to the ground with the children they were "rescuing" still inside.
5. Then, like in any real crime scene investigation, Bring in a bulldozer and clear the site.
Too bad that those raw food nuts didn't rape children, fire on federal employees, or stockpile explosives.
Cause remember if children are raped, it's better if they're dead.
Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6275|Vortex Ring State
waco lul
Chou
Member
+737|7067

UnkleRukus wrote:

Frankly i think we should nuke California off the map. Place is full of too many retards.
No more Blink182 or any of that gayass beach music shit? yay
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7048|PNW

EVieira wrote:

The point is there are Food and Drug regulations for a reason. Milk is pasteurized for a reason, to kill harmful bacteria. And I'm guessing selling unpasteurized milk is against regulations in the US as it is in just about everywhere else.
And if pasteurization doesn't kill harmful bacteria, tons of men with guns CAN!
Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6275|Vortex Ring State

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

EVieira wrote:

The point is there are Food and Drug regulations for a reason. Milk is pasteurized for a reason, to kill harmful bacteria. And I'm guessing selling unpasteurized milk is against regulations in the US as it is in just about everywhere else.
And if pasteurization doesn't kill harmful bacteria, tons of men with guns CAN!
muzzleflash probably will kill the bacteria by flash-frying them
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6744

Trotskygrad wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

EVieira wrote:

The point is there are Food and Drug regulations for a reason. Milk is pasteurized for a reason, to kill harmful bacteria. And I'm guessing selling unpasteurized milk is against regulations in the US as it is in just about everywhere else.
And if pasteurization doesn't kill harmful bacteria, tons of men with guns CAN!
muzzleflash probably will kill the bacteria by flash-frying them
Muzzle flash isn't nearly as impressive IRL as it is in vidya, I'm sorry.
13/f/taiwan
Member
+940|5975

Ilocano wrote:

Milk Advisory Board lobbyist...  Gotta protect the products reputation.
wtf
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6957|Disaster Free Zone

Turquoise wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Ohh ok so I was mistaken, so they could get sick?

I don't know if I really care, but right now the war on drugs seems to be failing so why not start a war on food?

Also I'm sure that the animals need to be kept healthier for the unpasteurized stuff.
Pasteurization doesn't have anything to do with the health of the cow.  I would assume that a lot of unpasteurized milk still comes from cows that we shoot up with antibiotics and hormones.

Now, if someone is purchasing organic milk, the cow is supposed to be healthier and not given growth hormones, but I'm not sure what the status of antibiotic use is in most cases.  I suppose there are some antibiotic-free milk sources out there.

Of course, the primary problem with organic foods is that there is no government certification that something has met the standards that organic sources make claims to.  It's kind of like how bottled water is often little more than tap water from a given city (or excess water from a soda plant, like in the case of Dasani).
Hormone and antibiotic free Milk and meat... come to Australia.

Antibiotics that are used to control bacterial infections in cows must be prescribed by a veterinarian. Milk for human consumption from any cow which has been treated with antibiotics is disposed of on the farm until the end of the required ‘milk withholding period’.
A hormone called bovine somatotrophin (BST) is used in some countries to increase milk production. BST is prohibited for use in Australia. The use of steroidal hormones such as oestrogen, progesterone and testosterone for growth promotion is not permitted in dairy farming in Australia.
Regulations demand that animals are not given any antibiotics in the few weeks leading up to slaughter. This will help reduce the amount of antibiotic residue left behind in the meat.
And as far as I'm aware there are government guidelines as to what constitutes "organic".
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7048|PNW

Milk is already growing a horrible reputation. Raw and organic brands won't make it worse. But I wouldn't say that to the face of one of the food nazis.
Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6275|Vortex Ring State

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:


And if pasteurization doesn't kill harmful bacteria, tons of men with guns CAN!
muzzleflash probably will kill the bacteria by flash-frying them
Muzzle flash isn't nearly as impressive IRL as it is in vidya, I'm sorry.
it happens anyways, not implying it would be cost efficient/effective in any way
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6681|North Carolina

DrunkFace wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Ohh ok so I was mistaken, so they could get sick?

I don't know if I really care, but right now the war on drugs seems to be failing so why not start a war on food?

Also I'm sure that the animals need to be kept healthier for the unpasteurized stuff.
Pasteurization doesn't have anything to do with the health of the cow.  I would assume that a lot of unpasteurized milk still comes from cows that we shoot up with antibiotics and hormones.

Now, if someone is purchasing organic milk, the cow is supposed to be healthier and not given growth hormones, but I'm not sure what the status of antibiotic use is in most cases.  I suppose there are some antibiotic-free milk sources out there.

Of course, the primary problem with organic foods is that there is no government certification that something has met the standards that organic sources make claims to.  It's kind of like how bottled water is often little more than tap water from a given city (or excess water from a soda plant, like in the case of Dasani).
Hormone and antibiotic free Milk and meat... come to Australia.

Antibiotics that are used to control bacterial infections in cows must be prescribed by a veterinarian. Milk for human consumption from any cow which has been treated with antibiotics is disposed of on the farm until the end of the required ‘milk withholding period’.
A hormone called bovine somatotrophin (BST) is used in some countries to increase milk production. BST is prohibited for use in Australia. The use of steroidal hormones such as oestrogen, progesterone and testosterone for growth promotion is not permitted in dairy farming in Australia.
Regulations demand that animals are not given any antibiotics in the few weeks leading up to slaughter. This will help reduce the amount of antibiotic residue left behind in the meat.
And as far as I'm aware there are government guidelines as to what constitutes "organic".
Well, I did some research.  It turns out I was wrong about certification here.  The USDA actually does have organic certification.  Apparently, it started back in 1990 here, so the information I had been aware of earlier was outdated by a considerable amount.

Also, apparently antibiotics are not used in several organic milks.  Stonyfield is one of the major suppliers that does not use antibiotics, and if I'm not mistaken, bovine growth hormones cannot be used in the production of organic dairy products per USDA regulations.

Last edited by Turquoise (2010-12-01 06:25:21)

Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5634|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Pasteurization doesn't have anything to do with the health of the cow.  I would assume that a lot of unpasteurized milk still comes from cows that we shoot up with antibiotics and hormones.

Now, if someone is purchasing organic milk, the cow is supposed to be healthier and not given growth hormones, but I'm not sure what the status of antibiotic use is in most cases.  I suppose there are some antibiotic-free milk sources out there.

Of course, the primary problem with organic foods is that there is no government certification that something has met the standards that organic sources make claims to.  It's kind of like how bottled water is often little more than tap water from a given city (or excess water from a soda plant, like in the case of Dasani).
Hormone and antibiotic free Milk and meat... come to Australia.

Antibiotics that are used to control bacterial infections in cows must be prescribed by a veterinarian. Milk for human consumption from any cow which has been treated with antibiotics is disposed of on the farm until the end of the required ‘milk withholding period’.
A hormone called bovine somatotrophin (BST) is used in some countries to increase milk production. BST is prohibited for use in Australia. The use of steroidal hormones such as oestrogen, progesterone and testosterone for growth promotion is not permitted in dairy farming in Australia.
Regulations demand that animals are not given any antibiotics in the few weeks leading up to slaughter. This will help reduce the amount of antibiotic residue left behind in the meat.
And as far as I'm aware there are government guidelines as to what constitutes "organic".
Well, I did some research.  It turns out I was wrong about certification here.  The USDA actually does have organic certification.  Apparently, it started back in 1990 here, so the information I had been aware of earlier was outdated by a considerable amount.

Also, apparently antibiotics are not used in several organic milks.  Stonyfield is one of the major suppliers that does not use antibiotics, and if I'm not mistaken, bovine growth hormones cannot be used in the production of organic dairy products per USDA regulations.
I drink Stonyfield. I love the wicked long shelf life.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6681|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

I drink Stonyfield. I love the wicked long shelf life.
Same here.  I recently bought their Fat Free Lactose Free milk.  I'm mildly lactose intolerant, and I prefer the taste of skim milk over whole milk.  I wasn't really sure how organic it really is, but since it actually is certified by the USDA NOP (National Organic Program), it's legit. 
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6972|NJ
But most organic food on the market comes from China(well in the US at least). I saw it on Penn and tellers Bull shit, so it must be true.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|6921

Turquoise wrote:

I'd encourage more raw food consumption, personally.  Natural selection at its finest...
well said Turquoise
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6681|North Carolina

cpt.fass1 wrote:

But most organic food on the market comes from China(well in the US at least). I saw it on Penn and tellers Bull shit, so it must be true.
As long as it meets the same standards as we put forth here, I don't have a problem with that.

Granted, China isn't exactly known for its sanitation standards....
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6631

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I only saw one cop with a gun drawn.

I assume it was video tape from the stores video camera and not some stock footage added for effect ala M. Moore.
I couldn't see what he was pointing it at and why he felt the need to, so I can't second guess him.

They should have

1. Without prior warning - Thrown Grenades in the Children's bed room windows at dawn.
2. Shot the dogs and puppies that were penned up in kennels.
3. Rammed and collapsed the stairs and doorways with an Armored Fighting Vehicle to prevent escape.
4. Pumped High concentrations of extremely flammable teargas in watch it burn to the ground with the children they were "rescuing" still inside.
5. Then, like in any real crime scene investigation, Bring in a bulldozer and clear the site.
Too bad that those raw food nuts didn't rape children, fire on federal employees, or stockpile explosives.
Rape children and ATF responds - right lol
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6744

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I only saw one cop with a gun drawn.

I assume it was video tape from the stores video camera and not some stock footage added for effect ala M. Moore.
I couldn't see what he was pointing it at and why he felt the need to, so I can't second guess him.

They should have

1. Without prior warning - Thrown Grenades in the Children's bed room windows at dawn.
2. Shot the dogs and puppies that were penned up in kennels.
3. Rammed and collapsed the stairs and doorways with an Armored Fighting Vehicle to prevent escape.
4. Pumped High concentrations of extremely flammable teargas in watch it burn to the ground with the children they were "rescuing" still inside.
5. Then, like in any real crime scene investigation, Bring in a bulldozer and clear the site.
Too bad that those raw food nuts didn't rape children, fire on federal employees, or stockpile explosives.
Rape children and ATF responds - right lol
Rape children and shoot at the first guys who come with illegal weapons and the ATF responds.
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5312|Massachusetts, USA
Have small children and ATG responds.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5978|College Park, MD
What's funny is that they seem to care more about raw milk giving someone the shits than cigarettes causing cancer.

Yeah yeah I know, tobacco lobby whatnot, but still.
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DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6957|Disaster Free Zone

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

What's funny is that they seem to care more about raw milk giving someone the shits than cigarettes causing cancer.

Yeah yeah I know, tobacco lobby whatnot, but still.
Food poisoning can kill people. But saying that, humans have drunk raw milk for thousands of years and managed to survive and in Europe they have overturned the outright ban of raw milk to give traditional cheese makers an exemption if they can prove the cows live and are milked in clean conditions.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6972|NJ

Turquoise wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

But most organic food on the market comes from China(well in the US at least). I saw it on Penn and tellers Bull shit, so it must be true.
As long as it meets the same standards as we put forth here, I don't have a problem with that.

Granted, China isn't exactly known for its sanitation standards....
It's fertilized with people... People I tell you.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6631

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

But most organic food on the market comes from China(well in the US at least). I saw it on Penn and tellers Bull shit, so it must be true.
As long as it meets the same standards as we put forth here, I don't have a problem with that.

Granted, China isn't exactly known for its sanitation standards....
It's fertilized with people... People I tell you.
soylent  green ?

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