BF2S Forums [Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim] Discussion Thread

"[Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim] Discussion Thread" is a discussion thread (like, hate, etc). But the same argument being made over and over again is a clear disruption to those who actually play and want to discuss the game. As well written and your point might be Uzique, it is still trolling. Please move on. Everyone else who mindless quotes to fuel the flames, stop. Thread open, back on topic.

FFLink wrote:

Just realised I was doing a main-story quest a lot earlier than expected of me. Still, got an Eldar Scroll for later

Seriously how many of those things are around since we can steal one every game

FloppY_ wrote:

I can't see why some of you think Skyrim has bad graphics I can't think of an open-world game that looks better tbh, and it runs so well, even my old-ish PC can do high settings without problems... It looks pretty great imo...

Hahahaha. You clearly haven't played The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings. Skyrim looks toyish in comparison.

The graphics remind me of STALKER a bit, technically they are total shit and if you break it down into texture resolution or whatever then you will obviously think it is crap, however when you are actually playing the game and exploring it all works really well. Things like distant clouds on the mountains, blizzards when you are on said mountains, low lying fogs in the swampy areas are all done well.

Video games are kind of dumb to argue about because while Uzique approaches this as a powergamer who wants massive challenge (and keeps comparing it to MMOs for some reason - there is no comparison there, they are completely different) other people approach it as a game where you immerse yourself into a different world and explore, buy a house, solve some peoples problems, learn more about the world and its factions, history etc.

I really struggle to tell if you are trolling sometimes Uzi, most of the time I hope that you are because it is sad to me to have someone just hate almost every game he plays.

Yeh, I actually do agree with you. I guess I just am good at ignoring it or expecting far worse, and end up satisfied.

I like to think that as the old games had that core gameplay that was fantastic with not much else, and more modern games have not much core and a ridiculous amount of "outside filling" that perhaps when graphics plateau and more focus is put on writing/ai etc these two things will combine to make great games. This is pretty idealistic though, with MW3 outselling everything yet again.

edit: ..eh I don't know, I read that after I wrote it and still agree with it but I have played a lot of Skyrim and really enjoyed it.

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

Yeh, I actually do agree with you. I guess I just am good at ignoring it or expecting far worse, and end up satisfied.

I like to think that as the old games had that core gameplay that was fantastic with not much else, and more modern games have not much core and a ridiculous amount of "outside filling" that perhaps when graphics plateau and more focus is put on writing/ai etc these two things will combine to make great games. This is pretty idealistic though, with MW3 outselling everything yet again.

edit: ..eh I don't know, I read that after I wrote it and still agree with it but I have played a lot of Skyrim and really enjoyed it.

Graphics plateau is a long ways away.


Thinking of picking this up. Never played an Elder Scrolls game before.

I agree with you as well, it's becoming more and more evident that games are no longer about quality in any aspect, whether it be the feeling of accomplishment, graphics, and sometimes even the story itself.  Everything is just commercialized and marketed towards the average idiot with a console because that's the majority.  There's not much depth or effort being put into anything anymore, it's just being hyped up and rushed to market so everybody can get the "newest and best game"

I think this is a similar phenomenon to BF3, everybody's been expecting Skyrim for almost as many years, and now we find it it's pretty much as mainstream, easy and consolized(right down to paying 60 fucking dollars for the PC version) as ever.  The day 1 stability has been much improved over previous Bethesda releases thanks to the new engine, at least for me, but it's very evident in everything else in the game, such as still having DirectX 9 graphics 5 years after the last game, the unresponsive UI, and the retarded dual-wielding setup, that the PC has also become an afterthought for Bethesda.

Mind you, I like this game better than BF3 and I'll still play this game, but a little part of me will always feel like it's not quite what it could've been.  This is the way PC gaming dies...

Last edited by _j5689_ (2011-11-25 19:43:55)

Skyrim might be main stream and consolized but it's still at least 30 times better than Morrowind or Oblivion.

krazed wrote:

RTHKI wrote:

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/immediately-ban-deadly-videogame-known-skyrim-safety-americas-youths/YmY1bLQ5

lolwat

I would sign it but I can't be assed to make an account.

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

krazed wrote:

RTHKI wrote:

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/immediately-ban-deadly-videogame-known-skyrim-safety-americas-youths/YmY1bLQ5

lolwat

I would sign it but I can't be assed to make an account.

Yeah, it is more annoying than it should be, I signed up a while ago to vote on some gun-related stuff

Edit: LMAO at the names of the people who signed it below the words

Last edited by _j5689_ (2011-11-25 20:47:32)

I think it's crucial for Bethesda to have some kind of immensely overpowered somewhat common enemies like Deathclaws for Fallout and whatever the hell you would consider that for Oblivion, it looked like it was pretty much everything once my brother got to a high enough level which is part of the reason I never tried to beat Oblivion even though it likely wasn't that level dependent to beat it.

It really does feel like everything is just given to you in Skyrim though.  Really my personal biggest qualm with the game is that the economy is just completely broken and nothing has any actual worth since money and high-selling equipment are both so easy to come by.  There's no need to grind to be able to afford that next awesomely powerful/cool looking sword or piece of armor; if you're willing to try enough times with lockpicks, you can have really good shit at lvl 1 and break the balance of the entire game, and if you don't do anything, you'll probably find whatever you were looking for in a chest somewhere or on someone you have to kill who was shit at using it anyway.  For me, the attraction was always the items I guess more than anything else.

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

Dragons should have been that overpowered enemy and they should have not used the soul thing. Making them a commodity rather than a dangerous opponent just trivialises them and makes them meaningless.

I think if this game had been released back when games were hard, dragons would have been rarer and much stronger and traps in dungeons would have been lethal all game long at the very least. Would have made it much more engaging to play.

I think dragons should've been like Oblivion gates where there's only a certain number of them and they didn't respawn in the area you defeated them in before.  Like you said, they should totally be a commodity and a limited one at that.  It should also be a level-specific epic battle with every single one, and by no means easy ever, they should also not get their asses handed to them by anything else like those Mammoths I saw take one down in just a few seconds but I guess there's only so much you can avoid with the new weird leveling system

Having dragons respawn, especially so often, also really ruins the immersion with having dragons in the game, now there's one every other time I go to Dawnstar.

They're like the element-breathing Cliff Racer of Skyrim the way they are now

Last edited by _j5689_ (2011-11-25 22:52:04)