Poll

TSA Screening to see ya naked

Accept fate and proceed through body scanner22%22% - 12
Opt out for pat down26%26% - 14
Express discontent and proceed through scanner5%5% - 3
Opt out for pat down after making self hard.22%22% - 12
Leave the airport sans screening, take ship down under5%5% - 3
Other5%5% - 3
FU Brinson11%11% - 6
Total: 53
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6405|North Tonawanda, NY

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I think a lot of people are pissed about the inconsistency of it.  Sure, 'randomness' regarding extensive searches is a good thing, but how come Joe Blow TSA agent has to grab my junk and not the old man in front of me's?  What exactly does that accomplish?
We could try and go the Israeli way (and probably be branded as racist), but I doubt that would work in a large, diverse nation like the US.  I object only because I don't really think it actually does much for security.  How often did the US have plane bombings/hijackings before 9/11?  Is the price we are paying really worth whatever security we have 'bought'?

I can't help but wonder if a better method for national security would come from better intelligence, and not more inconvenience.  Oh well...if you gotta fly, you gotta play by the rules.  I just don't have to like it.
It (the faux security check) is a dog and pony show.  It makes it look like the government is taking action after 9/11.  It does little to guarantee our security in flight.  But I agree, "if you gotta fly, you gotta play by the rules."  It does suck, but people need to QQ about it.
Yes, it is a show ('security theater', lol), but the thing is--why don't we stick with what was working before?  Why do we need these new machines for greater invasions into privacy?

The solution to this is not telling people to QQ about it, but rather to encourage the feds to spend money on more effective intelligence.  I realize how idealistic (and unrealistic) that sounds.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6629

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Flying to Australia to meet with Dil and prove you can outshoot him -you're stopped in the screening process at the airport, chosen for special screening nudie machine.  What do you do?
1. I thought you were handing in your guns last time I checked ?
2. put on a burka* and they leave you alone ( in the U.S.A. anyway. )
3. we should ask Israel what their airlines do, They seem to have a disproportionate safety record, and they have been steeped in reality for some time now.

Sorry Ken I only read the lead in ~ didn't see your post.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-11-18 17:37:55)

Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6629

11 Bravo wrote:

i dont care if someone sees my ding dong.
I wasn't gonna say this but, . . There you go again !
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6797|...

11 Bravo wrote:

i dont care if someone sees my ding dong.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6629

Turquoise wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

it's totally absurd, but you don't HAVE to fly.  Have fun taking that cross-country greyhound!
The ridiculous thing is, there are topics appearing all over Reddit about people taking 26 motherfucking hour Greyhound journeys in order to 'make a point' about the searches. And it's only if the pick you out that you have to go through the scanner/probulator, it's not even guarunteed to happen.
What I don't get is that people want both security and privacy.  When it comes to airports, you can't have it all.

Either you accept the increased risks by having limited search methods, or you accept the lack of privacy by increased security measures.

These are probably the same dumbasses that bitch about socialized medicine but still defend Medicare.
You realize as it stands muslim women might be getting a pass on this as to not offend them. I prefer reality.

Medicare is OUR MONEY
I case you missed it. We have already been paying in to medicare for some time now and it's broke. I would have perferred he fix something broken first rather than play with something that worked that he knew very little about. I think S.S. is fuk'd, stupid and broke but it is my money and I want it back now. I would have rather they not taken my money to make a retirement plan for me in the first place. I could have put that money to better use. Instead they wasted the money and I have my own retirement plan.
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6239|London, England

mtb0minime wrote:

Mutantbear wrote:

If I worked at the airport I'd touch everyone's weiners
Not being employed at the airport hasn't stopped you yet.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6680|North Carolina

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:


The ridiculous thing is, there are topics appearing all over Reddit about people taking 26 motherfucking hour Greyhound journeys in order to 'make a point' about the searches. And it's only if the pick you out that you have to go through the scanner/probulator, it's not even guarunteed to happen.
What I don't get is that people want both security and privacy.  When it comes to airports, you can't have it all.

Either you accept the increased risks by having limited search methods, or you accept the lack of privacy by increased security measures.

These are probably the same dumbasses that bitch about socialized medicine but still defend Medicare.
You realize as it stands muslim women might be getting a pass on this as to not offend them. I prefer reality.

Medicare is OUR MONEY
I case you missed it. We have already been paying in to medicare for some time now and it's broke. I would have perferred he fix something broken first rather than play with something that worked that he knew very little about. I think S.S. is fuk'd, stupid and broke but it is my money and I want it back now. I would have rather they not taken my money to make a retirement plan for me in the first place. I could have put that money to better use. Instead they wasted the money and I have my own retirement plan.
And being a younger person, I prefer not to pay into a system that won't exist when I'm older.

And, in case you missed it, supporting Medicare isn't supporting smaller government like the GOP and Tea Partiers love to moan about.  So, make up your minds -- either you're against socialized medicine (Medicare included) or you're not.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6720|The Land of Scott Walker
Option 4 sounds fun
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,816|6381|eXtreme to the maX
Sit back, open a beer, wait for blowhard to arrive for an asskicking.

Advise customs to prepare the elbow length rubber gloves, and flick the body scanner switch from mW to MW.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-11-18 19:27:50)

Fuck Israel
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7050|Moscow, Russia

11 Bravo wrote:

i dont care if someone sees my ding dong.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|6598|Graz, Austria
Go down under by ship.
That way, you can pretend to be a 19th century British criminal going to the prison colony.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6686|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

Sit back, open a beer, wait for blowhard to arrive for an asskicking.

Advise customs to prepare the elbow length rubber gloves, and flick the body scanner switch from mW to MW.
You shouldn't handle firearms after drinking. Very irresponsible.

As to the poll, I would opt for the pat down, then start breathing hard, grinding back on the agent's hand, screaming "What's my name, BITCH?!"

Cue the awkward silence.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6924

What about pissing yourself as the agent heads towards your crotch? Just remember to pack a spare pare of pants.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7041|UK
*Get my dick out and walk through scanner
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6629

Turquoise wrote:

And being a younger person, I prefer not to pay into a system that won't exist when I'm older.

And, in case you missed it, supporting Medicare isn't supporting smaller government like the GOP and Tea Partiers love to moan about.  So, make up your minds -- either you're against socialized medicine (Medicare included) or you're not.
We don't love to moan, we want to save our country, and I didn't miss it, my mind is made up I want my money back, being that the  liberal left never had one idea that didn't fail I don't want them to start another colossal money siphon that grows exponentially and never  serves anyone but bureaucrats.
Ticia
Member
+73|5610
Just make their job easier and strip already.


Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6680|North Carolina

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

And being a younger person, I prefer not to pay into a system that won't exist when I'm older.

And, in case you missed it, supporting Medicare isn't supporting smaller government like the GOP and Tea Partiers love to moan about.  So, make up your minds -- either you're against socialized medicine (Medicare included) or you're not.
We don't love to moan, we want to save our country, and I didn't miss it, my mind is made up I want my money back, being that the  liberal left never had one idea that didn't fail I don't want them to start another colossal money siphon that grows exponentially and never  serves anyone but bureaucrats.
Fair enough, but that means ending Medicare, not defending it....
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

Ticia wrote:

Just make their job easier and strip already.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZSEf_4F3jk&f
idiots
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5633|London, England
I agree with everything SenorToenails said earlier in this thread. The creation of the TSA was a kneejerk response to an isolated incident (9/11) and instead of giving them even more power, the program should've been scaled back over the past decade. Our intelligence services, air marshals, and vigilant citizens will do far more than a minimum wage rent a cop with a gun will ever do to protect this nation. We've given DMV workers real power. How sad is that?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5633|London, England

Ticia wrote:

Just make their job easier and strip already.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZSEf_4F3jk&f
False advertising. There was no nudity!
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
13/f/taiwan
Member
+940|5973
Just a quick question for marine since I know he works in the airline industry. Does anyone screen the people who clean the plane or the food carts they bring onto the plane?
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6405|North Tonawanda, NY

JohnG@lt wrote:

I agree with everything SenorToenails said earlier in this thread. The creation of the TSA was a kneejerk response to an isolated incident (9/11) and instead of giving them even more power, the program should've been scaled back over the past decade. Our intelligence services, air marshals, and vigilant citizens will do far more than a minimum wage rent a cop with a gun will ever do to protect this nation. We've given DMV workers real power. How sad is that?
You have to inconvenience people to make them feel safe.  Doing it right would mean there isn't any 'show'. 
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

13/f/taiwan wrote:

Just a quick question for marine since I know he works in the airline industry. Does anyone screen the people who clean the plane or the food carts they bring onto the plane?
nope.  sure they all get badges which mean they had a security check.......

so some somalian immigrant has access to thousands of planes every day yet a pilot needs to be seen naked in order to be safe lulz
13/f/taiwan
Member
+940|5973
so screening all those passengers wouldn't really make a significant difference if terrorist wanted to pull something?
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5512|Cleveland, Ohio

13/f/taiwan wrote:

so screening all those passengers wouldn't really make a significant difference if terrorist wanted to pull something?
yep

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