Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6748
turq what is it with the american rationalisation of excluding minorities

THEY ARE US CITIZENS TOO. YOUR OWN PEOPLE.

"well if you removed all the working-class people and people in council estates, the united kingdom would be extremely rich"

THEY'RE STILL BRITISH
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6682|North Carolina

Uzique wrote:

turq what is it with the american rationalisation of excluding minorities

THEY ARE US CITIZENS TOO. YOUR OWN PEOPLE.

"well if you removed all the working-class people and people in council estates, the united kingdom would be extremely rich"

THEY'RE STILL BRITISH
It's just a matter of recognizing when a problem is localized.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6748
it's 'localized' in this global context to your own nation/people/culture

don't ignore entire parts of your nation's modern identity for the sake of argumentative convenience, it's lousy
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6682|North Carolina

Uzique wrote:

it's 'localized' in this global context to your own nation/people/culture

don't ignore entire parts of your nation's modern identity for the sake of argumentative convenience, it's lousy
I'm not.   By bringing up this distinction, it actually clarifies a few things.

And as far as excluding minorities goes, America actually tends to treat its minorities a lot better than most countries.  We certainly cater to illegals more than any other country.  We don't treat black people the way that China treats Uyghurs or Turkey treats Kurds or Europe treats Gypsies.

So really, we're actually pretty progressive when it comes to race relations compared to a lot of the world.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6408|North Tonawanda, NY
Nah, we just blame them for all the crime, right?

I'm in agreement with Uzique on this one.  You can't just discount a segment of the population and say 'without them, we'd have much less crime!'
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6748
yeah but nobody is arguing or giving a shit about 'race relations', that's the fucking point

we're talking about crime rates and terrorism and YOU guys start being particular about race

which is kind of ironic seeing as how 'progressive' and 'accepting' you supposedly are

give me your tired, your poor... so i can point the finger and give them all the blame when i am criticised
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6682|North Carolina

SenorToenails wrote:

Nah, we just blame them for all the crime, right?

I'm in agreement with Uzique on this one.  You can't just discount a segment of the population and say 'without them, we'd have much less crime!'
If the numbers are focused on one group, yeah, you really can blame a particular group.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6682|North Carolina

Uzique wrote:

yeah but nobody is arguing or giving a shit about 'race relations', that's the fucking point

we're talking about crime rates and terrorism and YOU guys start being particular about race

which is kind of ironic seeing as how 'progressive' and 'accepting' you supposedly are

give me your tired, your poor... so i can point the finger and give them all the blame when i am criticised
We accept more refugees and poor than anyone else.

If anything, we should cut back on that.
jord
Member
+2,382|6955|The North, beyond the wall.
Because you touch yourself at night.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5514|Cleveland, Ohio

jord wrote:

Because you touch yourself at night.
dick hurts
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5314|Massachusetts, USA
This thread is so pointless, every country has violence. I would actually say UK is worse than the US, seeing as they have rouglhy the same assaults per capita as the US, but they have 62 million people in their country versus the 300 million in the US.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
jord
Member
+2,382|6955|The North, beyond the wall.

11 Bravo wrote:

jord wrote:

Because you touch yourself at night.
dick hurts
Indeed it does. My hands are always rough now, my penis suffers.
jord
Member
+2,382|6955|The North, beyond the wall.

UnkleRukus wrote:

This thread is so pointless, every country has violence. I would actually say UK is worse than the US, seeing as they have rouglhy the same assaults per capita as the US, but they have 62 million people in their country versus the 300 million in the US.
That's nice of you to venture that. Cheers.
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5314|Massachusetts, USA

jord wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

This thread is so pointless, every country has violence. I would actually say UK is worse than the US, seeing as they have rouglhy the same assaults per capita as the US, but they have 62 million people in their country versus the 300 million in the US.
That's nice of you to venture that. Cheers.
No prob, i can see some twisting the words and or calling me a fucking idiot, but it's the internets and no one has a clue on the internets.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6748
nah WE dont really have a violence problem, it's just all the pakis and undesirables living here

willing to bet 90% of the crime stats for assault are committed by polish people
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UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5314|Massachusetts, USA

Uzique wrote:

nah WE dont really have a violence problem, it's just all the pakis and undesirables living here

willing to bet 90% of the crime stats for assault are committed by polish people
Didn't you just criticize Turquoise for bringing races into this argument?
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6408|North Tonawanda, NY

UnkleRukus wrote:

Uzique wrote:

nah WE dont really have a violence problem, it's just all the pakis and undesirables living here

willing to bet 90% of the crime stats for assault are committed by polish people
Didn't you just criticize Turquoise for bringing races into this argument?
whooooooooosh
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6846|Mountains of NC

1. Bearmode ............. fact


2. Obama said in one interview that USA can absorb another attack ...................... so he's given the greenlight
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6682|North Carolina

Uzique wrote:

nah WE dont really have a violence problem, it's just all the pakis and undesirables living here

willing to bet 90% of the crime stats for assault are committed by polish people
If the stats back that up, then yes.

If not, then no.

The numbers are what matter.  Now, granted, I realize that not all crime gets reported (as mentioned earlier).
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6408|North Tonawanda, NY

UnkleRukus wrote:

jord wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

This thread is so pointless, every country has violence. I would actually say UK is worse than the US, seeing as they have rouglhy the same assaults per capita as the US, but they have 62 million people in their country versus the 300 million in the US.
That's nice of you to venture that. Cheers.
No prob, i can see some twisting the words and or calling me a fucking idiot, but it's the internets and no one has a clue on the internets.
The whole point of 'per capita' statistics is to normalize the data for comparison.  Having the same per-capita values does not make one country worse than another because one has a lower population...it just means that the conditions in both countries are similar enough to produce equivilent quantities of crime...per capita.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5635|London, England

Uzique wrote:

it's 'localized' in this global context to your own nation/people/culture

don't ignore entire parts of your nation's modern identity for the sake of argumentative convenience, it's lousy
He's not ignoring anything. He's stating a fact. If you removed black people from crime statistics, the rest of the population look like veritable angels. Black people segregate themselves into their own communities, have their own culture and cultural identity, and frankly do as much as they can to not assimilate. For all intents and purposes they are a country of their own within our country.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5514|Cleveland, Ohio

Uzique wrote:

nah WE dont really have a violence problem, it's just all the pakis and undesirables living here
leave Mek alone
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6898|London, England

SEREMAKER wrote:

1. Bearmode ............. fact


2. Obama said in one interview that USA can absorb another attack ...................... so he's given the greenlight
So what you want him to say is, the US is incapable of dealing with another terrorist attack, which should signal a red light to the terrorists to stop being naughty cos it's too much now
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6682|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Uzique wrote:

it's 'localized' in this global context to your own nation/people/culture

don't ignore entire parts of your nation's modern identity for the sake of argumentative convenience, it's lousy
He's not ignoring anything. He's stating a fact. If you removed black people from crime statistics, the rest of the population look like veritable angels. Black people segregate themselves into their own communities, have their own culture and cultural identity, and frankly do as much as they can to not assimilate. For all intents and purposes they are a country of their own within our country.
Well, I wouldn't go that far, but yeah, proportionately speaking, there is much more crime among blacks than among whites.  Part of it is due to poverty, but part of it is, as you said, culture.
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6846|Mountains of NC

Mekstizzle wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

1. Bearmode ............. fact


2. Obama said in one interview that USA can absorb another attack ...................... so he's given the greenlight
So what you want him to say is, the US is incapable of dealing with another terrorist attack, which should signal a red light to the terrorists to stop being naughty cos it's too much now
something to that caliber


we yell white flag ........................... they turn to walk away ........................ BOOM sucker punch to the back of the head


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