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Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Well then, that's not much of an incentive, is it?

Now, the one thing I will agree with you on is that, if you're really concerned about eating healthy, you're best off just cooking for yourself.

Granted, I know Ticia wouldn't like me to say that... 

So then what is the point of forcing fast food restaurants to put the caloric content on their menu boards? It's not going to push poor people to cook for themselves.

I don't know about that.  Imagine how different things would be if every school had a mandatory cooking class.  Instead of just going with a generic home economics class, you could actually teach people to cook and eat healthy.

If we did that in combination with making sure people were aware of the details of fast food, then I think we would be much healthier as a people.

You don't need to teach people everything in school. Learning to cook is as simple as picking up a cookbook. I'm a fantastic cook and all I learned in home ec was how to make pizza from scratch.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

So then what is the point of forcing fast food restaurants to put the caloric content on their menu boards? It's not going to push poor people to cook for themselves.

I don't know about that.  Imagine how different things would be if every school had a mandatory cooking class.  Instead of just going with a generic home economics class, you could actually teach people to cook and eat healthy.

If we did that in combination with making sure people were aware of the details of fast food, then I think we would be much healthier as a people.

You don't need to teach people everything in school. Learning to cook is as simple as picking up a cookbook. I'm a fantastic cook and all I learned in home ec was how to make pizza from scratch.

And that's great that you took to it quickly.  Not everyone can do that, nor does everyone have the same motivation to do so.

When you're devising a system to accommodate all levels of ability and all manner of backgrounds, sometimes you have to cover basics that some students might learn with or without school.

A basic economics and investment class would be another practical addition to curriculums, and more time needs to be devoted to civics as well.

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I don't know about that.  Imagine how different things would be if every school had a mandatory cooking class.  Instead of just going with a generic home economics class, you could actually teach people to cook and eat healthy.

If we did that in combination with making sure people were aware of the details of fast food, then I think we would be much healthier as a people.

You don't need to teach people everything in school. Learning to cook is as simple as picking up a cookbook. I'm a fantastic cook and all I learned in home ec was how to make pizza from scratch.

And that's great that you took to it quickly.  Not everyone can do that, nor does everyone have the same motivation to do so.

When you're devising a system to accommodate all levels of ability and all manner of backgrounds, sometimes you have to cover basics that some students might learn with or without school.

A basic economics and investment class would be another practical addition to curriculums, and more time needs to be devoted to civics as well.

they already have econ classes in high school. its just most people dont take it.

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I don't know about that.  Imagine how different things would be if every school had a mandatory cooking class.  Instead of just going with a generic home economics class, you could actually teach people to cook and eat healthy.

If we did that in combination with making sure people were aware of the details of fast food, then I think we would be much healthier as a people.

You don't need to teach people everything in school. Learning to cook is as simple as picking up a cookbook. I'm a fantastic cook and all I learned in home ec was how to make pizza from scratch.

And that's great that you took to it quickly.  Not everyone can do that, nor does everyone have the same motivation to do so.

When you're devising a system to accommodate all levels of ability and all manner of backgrounds, sometimes you have to cover basics that some students might learn with or without school.

A basic economics and investment class would be another practical addition to curriculums, and more time needs to be devoted to civics as well.

Well, then you should hand everyone a badass Polish stay at home grandmother who knows how to cook exceedingly well. She taught me the basics as a kid. (as well as how to read, and arithmetic through multiplication before I started kindergarten)

All you're doing Turq, is removing more and more responsibility from parents and placing it with the state. It's the parents job to be the primary educator, not the school system.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-10-21 08:23:59)

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

You don't need to teach people everything in school. Learning to cook is as simple as picking up a cookbook. I'm a fantastic cook and all I learned in home ec was how to make pizza from scratch.

And that's great that you took to it quickly.  Not everyone can do that, nor does everyone have the same motivation to do so.

When you're devising a system to accommodate all levels of ability and all manner of backgrounds, sometimes you have to cover basics that some students might learn with or without school.

A basic economics and investment class would be another practical addition to curriculums, and more time needs to be devoted to civics as well.

Well, then you should hand everyone a badass Polish stay at home grandmother who knows how to cook exceedingly well. She taught me the basics as a kid.

All you're doing Turq, is removing more and more responsibility from parents and placing it with the state. It's the parents job to be the primary educator, not the school system.

And we've seen how well that's worked out.  Quite frankly, most parents never should have had kids to begin with.

It would also be interesting to know how many kids were accidents and how many were planned.

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

And that's great that you took to it quickly.  Not everyone can do that, nor does everyone have the same motivation to do so.

When you're devising a system to accommodate all levels of ability and all manner of backgrounds, sometimes you have to cover basics that some students might learn with or without school.

A basic economics and investment class would be another practical addition to curriculums, and more time needs to be devoted to civics as well.

Well, then you should hand everyone a badass Polish stay at home grandmother who knows how to cook exceedingly well. She taught me the basics as a kid.

All you're doing Turq, is removing more and more responsibility from parents and placing it with the state. It's the parents job to be the primary educator, not the school system.

And we've seen how well that's worked out.  Quite frankly, most parents never should have had kids to begin with.

It would also be interesting to know how many kids were accidents and how many were planned.

Why's that? 99% of people come from decent homes. You have this overwhelming urge to paint the fucked up 1% as the majority on every topic.

Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

i never took it.  and i can cook some good stuff.

^ same here. fuck i wish i had cooking classes so i didnt have to eat shitty school lunch

turq: lots of schools offer it. if they don't go bitch to administration or you can take independent study AP econ.

I would imagine education systems are pretty good in Taiwan.  Since Taiwan is highly urbanized, it would be easier to keep systems well organized and less disparate in quality.

In America, we have vast expanses of rural land where schools are often piss poor.

Turquoise wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

i never took it.  and i can cook some good stuff.

^ same here. fuck i wish i had cooking classes so i didnt have to eat shitty school lunch

turq: lots of schools offer it. if they don't go bitch to administration or you can take independent study AP econ.

I would imagine education systems are pretty good in Taiwan.  Since Taiwan is highly urbanized, it would be easier to keep systems well organized and less disparate in quality.

In America, we have vast expanses of rural land where schools are often piss poor.

no I'm talking about American high schools. taiwans public education system is utter shite because its more about memorization than anything else. but thats a topic for another time

if schools dont offer econ, take independent study ya know. thats what i did when my shitty school didn't offer proper AP courses.

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

And we've seen how well that's worked out.  Quite frankly, most parents never should have had kids to begin with.

It would also be interesting to know how many kids were accidents and how many were planned.

Why's that? 99% of people come from decent homes. You have this overwhelming urge to paint the fucked up 1% as the majority on every topic.

1%....   wow.  ok then....    You know, for a guy who hates social democratism and mob rule, you really put a lot of faith in the people.

I have faith in people to know how to run their own lives better than anyone else. No one can plan for every eventuality that people might come across in their daily lives. Trying to shoehorn people into 'one size fits all' policies is the height of stupidity.

Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

i never took it.  and i can cook some good stuff.

^ same here. fuck i wish i had cooking classes so i didnt have to eat shitty school lunch

turq: lots of schools offer it. if they don't go bitch to administration or you can take independent study AP econ.

Me and my mates had to spent our entire dinner walking to the takeaway, plus jumping over the school fence. Ballache...

And I'm still like 130 pounds...

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why's that? 99% of people come from decent homes. You have this overwhelming urge to paint the fucked up 1% as the majority on every topic.

1%....   wow.  ok then....    You know, for a guy who hates social democratism and mob rule, you really put a lot of faith in the people.

I have faith in people to know how to run their own lives better than anyone else. No one can plan for every eventuality that people might come across in their daily lives. Trying to shoehorn people into 'one size fits all' policies is the height of stupidity.

I don't think teaching cooking, economics, and civics are shoehorning anyone anymore than teaching English or math.

11 Bravo wrote:

jord wrote:

And I'm still like 130 pounds...

are you under age 25?

Yes, fast metabolsm I know. 25 ain't it, dad didn't get fatter till 35

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

1%....   wow.  ok then....    You know, for a guy who hates social democratism and mob rule, you really put a lot of faith in the people.

I have faith in people to know how to run their own lives better than anyone else. No one can plan for every eventuality that people might come across in their daily lives. Trying to shoehorn people into 'one size fits all' policies is the height of stupidity.

I don't think teaching cooking, economics, and civics are shoehorning anyone anymore than teaching English or math.

I just know that it's pointless. Most people don't learn a damn thing in school and the ones that do wouldn't limit themselves to whatever basic crap is taught in those classes anyway.