I thought there was a long-standing issue with the sugar-cane and now corn sugar lobbies.JohnG@lt wrote:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/200 … .190.2.jpgDilbert_X wrote:
Is lobbying of political parties by industrial pressure groups the root cause of all Americans being colossally fat?
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I'm sorry for that. And I agree with you. Presidents are puppets, all politicians are nowadays. The leaders of the capitalist world (read: western society and the 3rd world countries they exploit) are corporations. I won't sarcastically say "Go U.S.", instead I'll say "Go us".11 Bravo wrote:
in-depth...ya thats worth it. look at the thread. dont be such a tard, don.DonFck wrote:
In this case, and by your in-depth analysis, each and every president since Kennedy has been a puppet.11 Bravo wrote:
because he is a puppet
Why? Because people like sweet food and they sell sweet products? People don't have a gun to their head forcing them to eat garbage. They simply eat it because it surrounds them. It surrounds them because it is what sells. There's no conspiracy, just poor diet choices.Dilbert_X wrote:
I thought there was a long-standing issue with the sugar-cane and now corn sugar lobbies.JohnG@lt wrote:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/200 … .190.2.jpgDilbert_X wrote:
Is lobbying of political parties by industrial pressure groups the root cause of all Americans being colossally fat?
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If you want to use this in a compare/contrast light, you can liken it to the recent creation of a central EU government and the inevitability of power moving away from individual countries and into the hands of said central government.JohnG@lt wrote:
If you want a real dissertation topic, study States Rights vs Federalism over the course of the nations history and how power has moved further and further away from the local level and been collected at the Federal level.
There is some history to the sugar lobby and the excessively high levels of sugar in US food.JohnG@lt wrote:
Why? Because people like sweet food and they sell sweet products? People don't have a gun to their head forcing them to eat garbage. They simply eat it because it surrounds them. It surrounds them because it is what sells. There's no conspiracy, just poor diet choices.
Ok. So? Again, no one was forced to buy the product. Sweet foods sell. No conspiracy.Dilbert_X wrote:
There is some history to the sugar lobby and the excessively high levels of sugar in US food.JohnG@lt wrote:
Why? Because people like sweet food and they sell sweet products? People don't have a gun to their head forcing them to eat garbage. They simply eat it because it surrounds them. It surrounds them because it is what sells. There's no conspiracy, just poor diet choices.
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It's the corn lobby actually... We use corn syrup instead of sugar cane in most foods because it's cheaper to use corn syrup due to the subsidies in place for corn.JohnG@lt wrote:
Why? Because people like sweet food and they sell sweet products? People don't have a gun to their head forcing them to eat garbage. They simply eat it because it surrounds them. It surrounds them because it is what sells. There's no conspiracy, just poor diet choices.Dilbert_X wrote:
I thought there was a long-standing issue with the sugar-cane and now corn sugar lobbies.
No-ones forced to buy salt. If its added to many foods at the factory its hard to avoid.JohnG@lt wrote:
Ok. So? Again, no one was forced to buy the product. Sweet foods sell. No conspiracy.
End result is the same. Cane sugar, HFCS, all the same.Turquoise wrote:
It's the corn lobby actually... We use corn syrup instead of sugar cane in most foods because it's cheaper to use corn syrup due to the subsidies in place for corn.JohnG@lt wrote:
Why? Because people like sweet food and they sell sweet products? People don't have a gun to their head forcing them to eat garbage. They simply eat it because it surrounds them. It surrounds them because it is what sells. There's no conspiracy, just poor diet choices.Dilbert_X wrote:
I thought there was a long-standing issue with the sugar-cane and now corn sugar lobbies.
If the market had no subsidies, then sugar cane would be cheaper to use.
Well, it's better for the consumer when no subsidies are applied.JohnG@lt wrote:
End result is the same. Cane sugar, HFCS, all the same.Turquoise wrote:
It's the corn lobby actually... We use corn syrup instead of sugar cane in most foods because it's cheaper to use corn syrup due to the subsidies in place for corn.JohnG@lt wrote:
Why? Because people like sweet food and they sell sweet products? People don't have a gun to their head forcing them to eat garbage. They simply eat it because it surrounds them. It surrounds them because it is what sells. There's no conspiracy, just poor diet choices.
If the market had no subsidies, then sugar cane would be cheaper to use.
So don't buy those foods? Salt is a preservative and taste additive. The foods you are talking about are processed foods. Go create the same dish from scratch and you can put whatever you wish into it.Dilbert_X wrote:
No-ones forced to buy salt. If its added to many foods at the factory its hard to avoid.JohnG@lt wrote:
Ok. So? Again, no one was forced to buy the product. Sweet foods sell. No conspiracy.
Prior to that the sugar cane lobby did a lot to maximise its sales.Turquoise wrote:
It's the corn lobby actually... We use corn syrup instead of sugar cane in most foods because it's cheaper to use corn syrup due to the subsidies in place for corn.
If the market had no subsidies, then sugar cane would be cheaper to use.
I don't disagree, I'm just stating that there isn't some giant conspiracy to get Americans hooked on sugary foodsTurquoise wrote:
Well, it's better for the consumer when no subsidies are applied.JohnG@lt wrote:
End result is the same. Cane sugar, HFCS, all the same.Turquoise wrote:
It's the corn lobby actually... We use corn syrup instead of sugar cane in most foods because it's cheaper to use corn syrup due to the subsidies in place for corn.
If the market had no subsidies, then sugar cane would be cheaper to use.
Aren't the fructose and sucrose contents different?JohnG@lt wrote:
End result is the same. Cane sugar, HFCS, all the same.
You need to look harder.I don't disagree, I'm just stating that there isn't some giant conspiracy to get Americans hooked on sugary foods
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Different in what?Dilbert_X wrote:
Aren't the fructose and sucrose contents different?JohnG@lt wrote:
End result is the same. Cane sugar, HFCS, all the same.
Erm, Cane sugar and High Fructose Corn Syrup.JohnG@lt wrote:
Different in what?Dilbert_X wrote:
Aren't the fructose and sucrose contents different?JohnG@lt wrote:
End result is the same. Cane sugar, HFCS, all the same.
Shrug. They're still sugar products designed to make food taste sweet. There are a lot of conspiracy theories surrounding HFCS that are floated by morons so that was what that comment was aimed at.Dilbert_X wrote:
Erm, Cane sugar and High Fructose Corn Syrup.JohnG@lt wrote:
Different in what?Dilbert_X wrote:
Aren't the fructose and sucrose contents different?
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swing baby, swing.eleven bravo wrote:
how the world cant stop hanging off o f our nuts
That wouldn't surprise me. Like a lot of other countries, our agricultural market is heavily subsidized and has gone through several different policies through the years.Dilbert_X wrote:
Prior to that the sugar cane lobby did a lot to maximise its sales.Turquoise wrote:
It's the corn lobby actually... We use corn syrup instead of sugar cane in most foods because it's cheaper to use corn syrup due to the subsidies in place for corn.
If the market had no subsidies, then sugar cane would be cheaper to use.
JohnG@lt wrote:
swing baby, swing.eleven bravo wrote:
how the world cant stop hanging off o f our nuts
why america puts something in the water supply to make people like that ^^11 Bravo wrote:
and why aussies are the fattest and the UK is getting worse every yearSamTheMan wrote:
Choose the topic on why americans are obeseJohnG@lt wrote:
Or prone to fornication with sheep.
It's the flouride.SEREVENT wrote:
why america puts something in the water supply to make people like that ^^11 Bravo wrote:
and why aussies are the fattest and the UK is getting worse every yearSamTheMan wrote:
Choose the topic on why americans are obese
