well, good.
THE SHADOW IS BIG ENOUGH, YE ARSEBUM.
THE SHADOW IS BIG ENOUGH, YE ARSEBUM.
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Yes, we indulged ourselves...all over the flag of Australia.
the area i was working in is all blackunnamednewbie13 wrote:
http://creative.incredicraft.com:8123/
E: South tunnels are a bit bigger now....lol
Sometimes the overhead doesn't refresh very well. Try loading the page again or putting a block in the area in-game simultaneously to viewing the site. I remember that it took awhile to recognize the small cranes I built.
Responded to a Steam event from the Weekdayz Community:
Hey, look. MmoInecraft.
Wholist:
Hey, look. MmoInecraft.
Wholist:
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Oh my lord.
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too
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o.O
Insane.
When you get truly dedicated like that, it stops becoming something that has no real point and actually becomes an art.
When you get truly dedicated like that, it stops becoming something that has no real point and actually becomes an art.
calling minecraft an art?
oh ffs
oh ffs
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
Ahaha
I read Link's post and was gonna respond, then I thought nah let's see what Zeek has to say about it first
lmao
I read Link's post and was gonna respond, then I thought nah let's see what Zeek has to say about it first
lmao
Aha ha, brilliant.
Roger Lesboules wrote:
o.O
I am not saying it is an art ,because I dont think it is, but I can see how it could be considered that.
You have a canvas (blank landscape) that you then paint (build on) creating something that is built from influences and creativity. In the same way an amateur painting can portray the same image/idea and a masterpiece can do the same thing with far more subtle touches and details, a beginner in minecraft can not make something that looks as good as someone who has been doing it for a while (assuming the one who knows his way around is creative).
I had actually never thought about it that way before, and dont think it is necessarily true but there is some truth to it.
You have a canvas (blank landscape) that you then paint (build on) creating something that is built from influences and creativity. In the same way an amateur painting can portray the same image/idea and a masterpiece can do the same thing with far more subtle touches and details, a beginner in minecraft can not make something that looks as good as someone who has been doing it for a while (assuming the one who knows his way around is creative).
I had actually never thought about it that way before, and dont think it is necessarily true but there is some truth to it.
Of course it's a form of art, but that can be said about anything, I suppose. I'm no master-of-the-arts, but it doesn't take one to recognise some form of artistic talent. It's not exactly the best method, IMO, to showcase a talent, but I guess it can be considered "3D pixel art".
It's a lot more impressive than some 'art' I see around randomly, anyway.
It's a lot more impressive than some 'art' I see around randomly, anyway.
art is 100% completely subjective
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Aesthetics and imagination are highly subjective, so for me, what defines "good" art is the amount of skill used (as in the old Latin word's meaning).Wikipedia wrote:
Britannica Online defines art as "the use of skill and imagination in the creation of aesthetic objects, environments, or experiences that can be shared with others." By this definition of the word, artistic works have existed for almost as long as humankind: from early pre-historic art to contemporary art; however, some theories restrict the concept to modern Western societies.[8] Adorno said in 1970, "It is now taken for granted that nothing which concerns art can be taken for granted any more: neither art itself, nor art in relationship to the whole, nor even the right of art to exist."[9] The first and broadest sense of art is the one that has remained closest to the older Latin meaning, which roughly translates to "skill" or "craft." A few examples where this meaning proves very broad include artifact, artificial, artifice, medical arts, and military arts. However, there are many other colloquial uses of the word, all with some relation to its etymology.
I can acknowledge "good" art even though I don't like its aesthetics.
The skill needed to sculpt a tree and a house in Minecraft is certainly much lower than painting something like the Mona Lisa.
Voxel art?FFLink wrote:
"3D pixel art"
A system with rules and a set number of different colours/sizes is never going to be as expressive or complex as something like an oil painting. Art in the sense of the Mona Lisa or expressionism/whatever is completely different to art in the sense of something like games or Minecraft. As far as that lower category of art goes though, some things I have seen in Minecraft would probably fit.globefish23 wrote:
The skill needed to sculpt a tree and a house in Minecraft is certainly much lower than painting something like the Mona Lisa.
Seemingly so.globefish23 wrote:
Voxel art?FFLink wrote:
"3D pixel art"
Minecraft can have art, but rarely does. I don't really classify any of the stuff I built on it as art. It was just built like Legos, sometimes with nothing but a rough framework to dictate where I put the blocks.Uzique wrote:
calling minecraft an art?
oh ffs
video-games are entertainment. entertainment is a category below art. yes, they're aesthetically pleasing. do they possess Beauty? no.
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libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
Stop being so narrow minded, it doesn't suit you.Uzique wrote:
video-games are entertainment. entertainment is a category below art. yes, they're aesthetically pleasing. do they possess Beauty? no.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
show me a game that contains Beauty like this
or this
or this
or this
or this
and i'll concede that video-games are art. i don't think any video-game, no matter how replayable or addictive, has reached that level of transcendent, all-encompassing Beauty. sure they're entertaining; sure they're pleasant; sure they're often nice to look at and are impressive. but they don't have that high-artistic attainment of Beauty (or, in more moral terms, Truth). especially lately, video-games have been heading in a photo-realistic direction and are basically re-enacting the crisis found in painting at the advent of photography-- a complete dead-end. minecraft is essentially just a time-sink sandbox. entertainment (and top-rate at that, by all accounts, according to critics and the video-game industry)... but art? are you really going to call building lego houses and hitting creepers an art-form? come on. it's entertainment in the same way a tom clancy novel is. it transcends nothing.Now my charms are all o'erthrown,
And what strength I have's mine own,
Which is most faint: now, 'tis true,
I must be here confined by you,
Or sent to Naples. Let me not,
Since I have my dukedom got
And pardon'd the deceiver, dwell
In this bare island by your spell;
But release me from my bands
With the help of your good hands:
Gentle breath of yours my sails
Must fill, or else my project fails,
Which was to please. Now I want
Spirits to enforce, art to enchant,
And my ending is despair,
Unless I be relieved by prayer,
Which pierces so that it assaults
Mercy itself and frees all faults.
As you from crimes would pardon'd be,
Let your indulgence set me free .
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
^Pretentiousness. On the other hand, going to an art museum for me is entertainment, and just because I find it entertaining doesn't mean that it isn't art.
From Wiki itself:
God help your kids if you ever have any and they bring you a crayon sketch. What would you do, crumple it up and make them take courses before permitting them a small space on your fridge?
From Wiki itself:
If someone wants to pour their heart and soul into projects using Legos as a medium, who are we to sneer? Likewise, if someone wants to build something special out of virtual 1x1m blocks that's a step above four walls and a roof, who's to say it isn't an artistic accomplishment if actual thought went into it for aesthetics rather than functionality? Just because you can chop up creepers that want to destroy your stuff doesn't make your stuff any less interesting (at least to yourself). If I want to draw a ninja turtle, I can call it art. That doesn't mean I think it needs a place in the Louvre.Art is the product or process of deliberately arranging items (often with symbolic significance) in a way that influences and affects one or more of the senses, emotions, and intellect. It encompasses a diverse range of human activities, creations, and modes of expression [...]
God help your kids if you ever have any and they bring you a crayon sketch. What would you do, crumple it up and make them take courses before permitting them a small space on your fridge?