eleven bravo
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nope

throw in russ feignold though and i think that would be pretty interesting
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unnamednewbie13
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eleven bravo wrote:

nope
Well...then you must be a sexist! {flashbacks to 2008}
Kmar
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Lies, Damned Lies – Obamacare 6 Months Later; It’s Time to Take Back the 20!
by Sarah Palin on Friday, September 24, 2010 at 1:17pm

It’s now six months since President Obama took control of one-sixth of the private sector economy with his health care “reform,” and the first changes to our health care system come into effect today. Despite overwhelming public dislike of the bill, we were told that D.C. knows best, and there was nothing to worry about, and we’d be better off swallowing the pill called Obamacare; so, in defiance of the will of the people, the President and his party rammed through this mother of all unfunded mandates. Nancy Pelosi said Congress had to pass the bill so that Americans could “find out what is in it.” We found out that it’s even worse than we feared.

Remember when the president said, “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”? Not true. In Texas alone a record number of doctors are leaving the Medicare system because of the cuts in reimbursements forced on them by Obamacare! The president of the Texas Medical Association, Dr. Susan Bailey, warns that “the Medicare system is beginning to implode.”

Remember the Obama administration’s promise that Obamacare would cut a typical family’s premium “by up to $2500 a year”? Not true. In fact, fueled by reports that insurers expect premiums to rise by as much as 25 percent as a result of Obamacare, Senate Democrats are contemplating the introduction of price controls.

Remember when the president said in his address to Congress that “no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions”? That turned out to be yet another one of those “You lie!” moments. We found out that Obamacare-mandated high risk insurance pools set up in states like Pennsylvania and New Mexico will fund abortions after all.

Remember the promise that Obamacare would “strengthen small businesses”? Not true either. The net result of Obamacare is that small businesses will face higher health care costs, new Medicare taxes, and higher regulation compliance costs, while the much-hyped health care tax credit for small businesses turns out to be almost impossible to obtain.

Remember the president’s promise that his bill would ensure “everyone [has] some basic security”? False again. Besides the great uncertainty that Obamacare hampers businesses with, companies now find it is actually cheaper to pay the $2000 per employee fine imposed by Obamacare than to keep insuring their workforce. This leaves millions of American workers at risk of losing their employer-provided health insurance.

And remember when the Obama administration said they would not be “rationing care” in the future? That ol’ “death panels” thing I wrote about last year? That was before Obamacare was passed. Once it passed, they admitted there was going to be rationing after all. There has to be. The reality of Obamacare is that it enshrines what the New York Times called “The Power of No” – the government’s power to say no to your request for treatment of the people you love. The fact that the president used a recess appointment to push through the nomination of Dr. Donald Berwick as head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services tells you all you need to know about this administration’s intentions. After all, Berwick is the man who said, “The decision is not whether we will ration care – the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open.

By the way, when the administration was talking about that independent board that has the statutory power to decide which categories of treatment are worthy of funding based on efficiency calculations (that, again, sounded to me like a panel of faceless bureaucrats making life and death decisions about your loved ones – which, again, is what I referred to as a “death panel”), it was another opportunity for Americans to hear the truth about Obamacare’s intentions.

So, yes, those rationing “death panels” are there, and so are the tax increases that the president also promised were “absolutely not” in his bill. (Aren’t you tiring of the untruths coming from this White House and the liberals in Congress?) When the state of Florida filed a challenge to Obamacare on the basis that the mandates in the bill are unconstitutional, the Obama Department of Justice filed a motionto dismiss the suit by citing the Anti-Injunction Act, which blocks courts from interfering with the federal government’s ability to collect taxes. Yes, taxes! Once the bill was passed it was no longer politically inconvenient for the Obama administration to admit that it makes no difference whether the payment is a tax or a penalty because it’s “assessed and collected in the same manner.” The National Taxpayer Advocate has already warned that “Congress must provide sufficient funding” to allow the IRS to collect this new tax. Pretty soon we’ll be paying taxes just to make it possible for the IRS to collect all the additional taxes under Obamacare! Seems as if this is another surprise that the public found out about after the bill was rammed through.

But perhaps the most ridiculous promise of all was the president’s assurance that Obamacare will lead to “bending the curve” on health care spending. Yes, rationing is a part of the new system, and yes, Obamacare does raise taxes. But because the new government managed system is so incredibly complicated and expensive to run, health care spending will actually rise instead of fall. Don’t believe me? Then take a look at the Congressional Budget Office’s admittance that the CBO’s original estimate of the total costs of the bill were off by around $115 billion. Its new estimate is now above $1 trillion, and even that may be way too low. A more realistic figure calculated by the Pacific Research Institute puts the number at $2.5 to $3 trillion over the next 10 years! This is probably what President Obama was referring to when he admitted recently that he had known all along that “at the margins” his proposals were going to drive up costs. Give us a break! Only in this administration would they refer to a $3 trillion spending increase as “marginal.” Next time he comes to us with another one of his harebrained proposals for a budget-busting federal power grab, let’s make sure we remember the president’s admission that he was lying all along when he told us his health care plan was going to cut costs. He is increasing costs. He admits it now. Period.

Higher costs and worse care – is it any wonder why people are overwhelmingly in favor of repealing and replacing Obamacare? Politicians who have vacillated on this issue need to be fired. Candidates who don’t support “repeal and replace” don’t deserve your support. No amount of money spent on Washington’s “government-wide apolitical public information campaign” (otherwise known as “propaganda”) will convince Americans that this awful legislation is anything other than a debt-driven big government train wreck. We need to repeal and replace it, and that can only happen if we elect a new Congress that will make scrapping Obamacare one of its top priorities. We can replace it with pro-private sector, patient-oriented reform that the GOP has proposed.

On March 23, when Obamacare was signed into law, I launched my “Take back the 20” campaign, focusing on 20 congressional districts that John McCain and I carried in 2008 which are or were represented by members of Congress who voted in favor of Obamacare. They need to be held accountable for those votes. They voted for Obamacare. Now we can vote against them. We need to replace them with representatives who will respect the will of the people.

That’s why today I’m launching a new Take Back the 20 website at www.takebackthe20.com!

TakeBackthe20.com provides information about the candidates in these 20 districts who are committed to repealing and replacing Obamacare. It has links to their personal websites and their donation pages. It allows you to read up on them, and then support them in their race to defeat those who gave us this terrible bill.

We have to send Washington a message that it’s not acceptable to disregard the will of the people. We have to tell them enough is enough. No more defying the Constitution. No more driving us off a financial cliff. We must repeal and replace Obamacare with patient-centered, results-driven, free market reform that provides solutions to people of all income levels without bankrupting our country.

It’s time to make a stand! Let’s take back the 20!

- Sarah Palin
If I thought Sarah knew what any of that meant I might vote for her.
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Well, as that article clearly demonstrates...  Obamacare isn't even socialized medicine anyway...   It's just mandatory pork for insurance companies.
ghettoperson
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Uhhh all 'Sarah' is saying is what the Republicans are doing all along. Plenty of criticisms, no solutions. We know Obama's 'socialised' healthcare sucks, why does that make her electable?

Last edited by ghettoperson (2010-09-28 16:28:50)

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Kmar wrote:

Lies, Damned Lies – Obamacare 6 Months Later;
If I thought Sarah knew what any of that meant I might vote for her.
Why would you suppose she didn't ? Did you read her book ? She speaks well without a TelePrompter. obama care is starting to hit home for a lot of people.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

H/J I refuse to reply to you simply because I think you are a genuinely stupid person and it would be a complete waste of my time. It's nice to see that I've provoked so much hatred on your part though. I bet you went to bed angry last night. Stop posting so I don't have to spend so much time scrolling past your posts.
Since you didn't read my post I guessing you imagined the hatred.

For the Record your name calling is rife in all your posts. You can dish it out but you can't take it. No surprise,

but The hatred and Insults in there are yours ! I just took your quotes away !
You must have a short retention time to not recognise your own words. Its pretty funny since you call everyone dumb.
shall I put them back with a link to the post where I got them ?
eleven bravo
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"did you read her book?" followed by "she speaks well"


oh man
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Harmor
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eleven bravo wrote:

"did you read her book?" followed by "she speaks well"


oh man
You mean this one? 

https://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8529/51zdcrnohlbo2204203200p.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Going-Rogue-Ameri … 0061939897

Nope, can't say I have.  I'm still working my way though David Limbaugh's book:

https://img716.imageshack.us/img716/690/51odnllulbo2204203200pi.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Crimes-Against-Li … amp;sr=1-1
eleven bravo
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Harmor if you lose 50 pounds I promise you I will vote for palin in 2012
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Harmor
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You're assuming that she'll get the Nomination.  If she doesn't I hope she becomes party chair though.

Last count there are 17 people in the race for the GOP nomination.
eleven bravo
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lose 15 pounds by nov 2 and Ill vote for whitman and fiorina. do it for your country
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Harmor
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I can't believe Fiorina is behind in the Polls.  And don't get me started on Nutmeg.  I listened the first Governor's Debate tonight and with either choice my state is doomed.  But I'll probably still vote for Nutmeg because I couldn't vote for Brown.
eleven bravo
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well Im voting for brown and boxer.  suck it.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

i cant wait to not vote for her or anyone she attaches her name to
Step back for a moment and picture this...

Hillary detaches herself from the Obama administration and runs alongside Sarah Palin in a bipartisan ticket. Would you still?
I wouldn't....   Although this would be an excellent way for Hillary to end her political career...  lol
Harmor
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Harmor wrote:

You mean this one? 

https://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8529/51zdcrnohlbo2204203200p.jpg
"Click to look inside Sarah Palin"

No thanks buddy...  She's a bit old for my tastes...
eleven bravo
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I would so hit that
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Harmor
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I think I found out who I'm voting for California Governor:

https://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2602/46890872244f3999966c.jpg

Positions: http://www.nightingaleforgovernor.com/issues
eleven bravo
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do it!

tell your friends too!

Last edited by eleven bravo (2010-09-28 20:50:28)

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25% of California students don't speak English? I find that difficult to believe. Are 25% of Californians Hispanic?
Hunter/Jumper
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eleven bravo wrote:

"did you read her book?" followed by "she speaks well"


oh man
Nice try cutting apart my post. However ~ I  can remember what  I  wrote. actually it was :

Kmar wrote:

If I thought Sarah knew what any of that meant I might vote for her.

Hunter wrote:

Why would you suppose she didn't ? Did you read her book ? She speaks well without a TelePrompter. obama care is starting to hit home for a lot of people.
3 separate questions. In 3 separate sentences really confused you. For that I am sorry.
Nice try though,  Have you read obamas book ? There are things in there that go against every thing that made this country number one. obama can't speak without a TelePrompter. To a small minded shallow thinker following a herd (ahem) this may seem inconsequential. But that fact is we never get to hear his own words.  His Thoughts ! When we did it was like watching some silly insulting parody. And obama care ? - Even his own party is trying to distance themselves from it.

I took you more seriously when you weren't making such an effort to fit in.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-09-29 08:40:57)

Kmar
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Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Lies, Damned Lies – Obamacare 6 Months Later;
If I thought Sarah knew what any of that meant I might vote for her.
Why would you suppose she didn't ? Did you read her book ? She speaks well without a TelePrompter. obama care is starting to hit home for a lot of people.
No I haven't read her book but I heard Lynn Vincent, her ghostwriter, did a good job.

Sarah doesn't need a teleprompter.
https://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8358/0207sarahpalinap1x.jpg

https://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1351/ssarahpalinhandnoteslar.jpg

At least if she runs this time it will be her own chances she is ruining. Sadly, Palin is one of the best things to happen to the Democratic party.
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Why would she write her own Life story ? She isn't an author. You dictate it to a professional. She has a real story and list of accomplishments to tell at least. Few people completely write their own. So you think obama came up with " white folks' greed runs a world in need " on his own ? You ever hear him without a TelePrompter "...uhg um err ah oogh umm.duh kill whitey arrg om. . "

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-09-30 17:54:42)

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Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Why would she write her own autobiography ? she isn't an author. You dictate it to a professional. Few people completely write their own. So you think obama came up with " white folks' greed runs a world in need " on his own ?
It is true that most celebrities (politicians or otherwise) have ghostwriters.

However, it's kind of hard to believe someone with as dimwitted of a demeanor as Palin would actually be intelligent enough to understand the complexities of economic policy.

Granted, I'm not saying she's an anomaly in the political realm.  There are a lot of politicians who might be educated in law or have extraordinary charisma, but few of them are true statesmen/stateswomen.

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