jord
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My other idea is a timed lever that attaches to windows and shuts at a certain time. Like how it gets so humid I can't sleep so I open my windows, then come 7:45AM all the FUCKING KIDS are causing RUCKUS in the street waking me up. The lever would shut the window at 7AM for me.

Would help people on nights too.

DAMN KIDS
Cybargs
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Uzique wrote:

freedom of the press? erm, what?

it's a BUSINESS trying to sell ICE-CREAM by making a side-crack at PERSONAL RELIGIOUS BELIEF

it evokes images of toothpaste in the 1920's with black people/white people because of racial connotations

YOU CAN'T ADVERTISE A PRODUCT IN A 'FREE COUNTRY' THAT OFFENDS A MINORITY/MAJORITY GROUP OF THAT COUNTRY

it's that simple. it has nothing to do with free speech or 'freedom of the press'. you americans are too eager to jump on any other country and are so ridiculously eager to portray everywhere else as 'Big Brother' socialist states that take the choice away from the individual and his/her freedom. it has nothing to do with that rhetorical, high-minded bullshit; it's a simple case of "get a new fucking advertising agency because this idea sucked and we're removing it".
https://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/darkietoothpaste_new.jpg

more like early 2000s m8.

why cant all races get along like people on bf2s

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eleven bravo
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Cybargs wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


Gotta say the most fun I had during my deployment was during convoy training in Kuwait. It was essentially a giant drive by shooting. I pumped six hundred rounds into a car
lol.  sounds like the shit I did everyday in iraq
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yall
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Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

Uzique wrote:

freedom of the press? erm, what?

it's a BUSINESS trying to sell ICE-CREAM by making a side-crack at PERSONAL RELIGIOUS BELIEF

it evokes images of toothpaste in the 1920's with black people/white people because of racial connotations

YOU CAN'T ADVERTISE A PRODUCT IN A 'FREE COUNTRY' THAT OFFENDS A MINORITY/MAJORITY GROUP OF THAT COUNTRY

it's that simple. it has nothing to do with free speech or 'freedom of the press'. you americans are too eager to jump on any other country and are so ridiculously eager to portray everywhere else as 'Big Brother' socialist states that take the choice away from the individual and his/her freedom. it has nothing to do with that rhetorical, high-minded bullshit; it's a simple case of "get a new fucking advertising agency because this idea sucked and we're removing it".
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/20 … te_new.jpg

more like early 2000s m8.

why cant all races get along like people on bf2s
That's pretty funny
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
13urnzz
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Cybargs wrote:

why cant all races get along like people on bf2s
because People are ignorant and uneducated!
jord
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because theres no damn blacks on bf2s
Cybargs
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Uzique wrote:

freedom of the press? erm, what?

it's a BUSINESS trying to sell ICE-CREAM by making a side-crack at PERSONAL RELIGIOUS BELIEF

it evokes images of toothpaste in the 1920's with black people/white people because of racial connotations

YOU CAN'T ADVERTISE A PRODUCT IN A 'FREE COUNTRY' THAT OFFENDS A MINORITY/MAJORITY GROUP OF THAT COUNTRY

it's that simple. it has nothing to do with free speech or 'freedom of the press'. you americans are too eager to jump on any other country and are so ridiculously eager to portray everywhere else as 'Big Brother' socialist states that take the choice away from the individual and his/her freedom. it has nothing to do with that rhetorical, high-minded bullshit; it's a simple case of "get a new fucking advertising agency because this idea sucked and we're removing it".
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/20 … te_new.jpg

more like early 2000s m8.

why cant all races get along like people on bf2s
That's pretty funny
i can ship you a box. #1 selling toothpaste in Taiwan. It's literally called black man toothpaste in chinese lolz.
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mikkel
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This thread is hilarious. Six pages of Uzique trying to put a spin on essentially suggesting that it isn't censorship because you can do anything as long as people don't complain.

I particularly like the "I haven't seen a major company feature racially charged advertising, so it must not be legal" rationale.
Uzique
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Cybargs wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/20 … te_new.jpg

more like early 2000s m8.

why cant all races get along like people on bf2s
That's pretty funny
i can ship you a box. #1 selling toothpaste in Taiwan. It's literally called black man toothpaste in chinese lolz.
yeah i had that vaguely in mind when i made my post. hence the random example

i guess i confused the era because of the retrograde packaging - haha! jesus that's old shit
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Jay
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burnzz wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

why cant all races get along like people on bf2s
because People are ignorant and uneducated!
Because people are always trying to kick people below them on the ladder in order to feel better about themselves and actually take shit like racism and stereotypes seriously. It's why poor white people are the most vocal anti-Mexicans and were the most overt racists and disciminators against black people. Shit rolls downhill and shitting on the people perceived to be below oneself is what gets some people through the day. It's their escape from the reality of being an inconsequential piece of shit themselves.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Bertster7
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Turquoise wrote:

Britain's advertising watchdog has censured an Italian ice cream manufacturer over an advertisement depicting a heavily pregnant nun that appeared ahead of a papal visit to the UK.

The ad featuring the strapline "immaculately conceived" over an image of the expectant sister spooning from a tub of Antonio Federici ice cream was "likely to cause widespread offense," the Advertising Standards Authority ruled.


Hello censorship.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09 … tml?hpt=C2

So, in America, public outcry causes self-censorship, but in the U.K., it looks like the government gets involved.  Good job guys...
This has absolutely nothing to do with the government. It is being banned by the ASA. A public body funded entirely by media outlets which sell advertising space.

Yet again the government is being blamed for something they have no involvement in whatsoever.

The agency have said they will run a very similar advert at the time of the Popes visit, which the ASA will not have time to block. The only thing that could prevent it being run is if the organisations selling the advertising space decide it is too controversial and that they should seek pre-approval from the ASA (a body with no power at all - they can't impose any sort of sanction, all they can do is pull the advert - which is something those selling the advertising space have to do voluntarily).

mikkel wrote:

This thread is hilarious. Six pages of Uzique trying to put a spin on essentially suggesting that it isn't censorship because you can do anything as long as people don't complain.

I particularly like the "I haven't seen a major company feature racially charged advertising, so it must not be legal" rationale.
It isn't censorship, because it is done by private agencies, voluntarily.

This is all done deliberately to generate additional publicity. It's very shrewd working of the system.

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Uzique
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mikkel wrote:

This thread is hilarious. Six pages of Uzique trying to put a spin on essentially suggesting that it isn't censorship because you can do anything as long as people don't complain.

I particularly like the "I haven't seen a major company feature racially charged advertising, so it must not be legal" rationale.
it's hilarious because you do not understand what 'censorship' is, in legal terms, at all.

the ASA are not "censoring" adverts. they are exercising legal rights that every single person has.
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eleven bravo
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Hunter/Jumper wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


Have you ever seen Gran Torino?
gran torino is not that good of a movie if you ask me.  if anybody other than clint eastwood was starring in it it would have gone direct to dvd.
Its success is more of a comment on movies that have been released lately - I think.
its success is a comment on the ability for anything clint eastwood touches turning into gold
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Turquoise
O Canada
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Bert, I'm going to change the OP to reflect this.
mikkel
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Uzique wrote:

mikkel wrote:

This thread is hilarious. Six pages of Uzique trying to put a spin on essentially suggesting that it isn't censorship because you can do anything as long as people don't complain.

I particularly like the "I haven't seen a major company feature racially charged advertising, so it must not be legal" rationale.
it's hilarious because you do not understand what 'censorship' is, in legal terms, at all.

the ASA are not "censoring" adverts. they are exercising legal rights that every single person has.
I have no interest in the legal definition of censorship in any jurisdiction, nor which rights the ASA are making use of. I just find your posts in this thread to be amusing.
Uzique
dasein.
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mikkel wrote:

Uzique wrote:

mikkel wrote:

This thread is hilarious. Six pages of Uzique trying to put a spin on essentially suggesting that it isn't censorship because you can do anything as long as people don't complain.

I particularly like the "I haven't seen a major company feature racially charged advertising, so it must not be legal" rationale.
it's hilarious because you do not understand what 'censorship' is, in legal terms, at all.

the ASA are not "censoring" adverts. they are exercising legal rights that every single person has.
I have no interest in the legal definition of censorship in any jurisdiction, nor which rights the ASA are making use of. I just find your posts in this thread to be amusing.
because they're right?

i defended claims that this was the UK government removing 'freedom of speech' and being undemocratic.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UK GOVERNMENT

i defended claims that the ASA's actions are censorship

IT IS NOT CENSORSHIP IN ANY DEFINITION

that's that. laughable? fuck off.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

Uzique wrote:

mikkel wrote:

Uzique wrote:


it's hilarious because you do not understand what 'censorship' is, in legal terms, at all.

the ASA are not "censoring" adverts. they are exercising legal rights that every single person has.
I have no interest in the legal definition of censorship in any jurisdiction, nor which rights the ASA are making use of. I just find your posts in this thread to be amusing.
because they're right?

i defended claims that this was the UK government removing 'freedom of speech' and being undemocratic.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UK GOVERNMENT

i defended claims that the ASA's actions are censorship

IT IS NOT CENSORSHIP IN ANY DEFINITION

that's that. laughable? fuck off.
Limiting content is censorship.  It doesn't require government involvement to be considered censorship.
Jay
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Turquoise wrote:

Uzique wrote:

mikkel wrote:


I have no interest in the legal definition of censorship in any jurisdiction, nor which rights the ASA are making use of. I just find your posts in this thread to be amusing.
because they're right?

i defended claims that this was the UK government removing 'freedom of speech' and being undemocratic.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UK GOVERNMENT

i defended claims that the ASA's actions are censorship

IT IS NOT CENSORSHIP IN ANY DEFINITION

that's that. laughable? fuck off.
Limiting content is censorship.  It doesn't require government involvement to be considered censorship.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
rdx-fx
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There's a difference between freedom of the press and advertising.

Freedom of the press is freedom to express an unpopular viewpoint, regardless of who it offends, for the purpose of public discourse and free (open) dissemination of information relevant to the public interest.

Advertising is there to sell shit.  If your ads are edgy, and thereby get attention and make a favorable impression on the public - you sell more shit.  If your ads miss 'edgy', and instead go straight into 'boorish, tasteless, offensive'- you aren't going to sell more shit.

Most ad companies would gladly use any nasty bit of tripe to sell product.  If they knew it would move more units, they'd have Goatze & The Altar Boy Band selling Preparation-H, '2 girls 1 cup' selling Listerine, and Princess Diana selling Geico car insurance. They gives a damn about ideals, public discourse, or free press.
Hunter/Jumper
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eleven bravo wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:


gran torino is not that good of a movie if you ask me.  if anybody other than clint eastwood was starring in it it would have gone direct to dvd.
Its success is more of a comment on movies that have been released lately - I think.
its success is a comment on the ability for anything clint eastwood touches turning into gold
Yes that's true. Even some of his really poor* movies in the 70s did well, although the Cinema was more popular back then - No VCRs or DVDs
*( I thought he made some bad ones )
Anybody hear a gunshot in uziqes neighborhood yet ?
mikkel
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You're swimming around from argument to argument, and I have no intention of following you. It's just amusing to pick out these absurd arguments you present.

Uzique wrote:

it's not censorship. people complain to official bodies. the government exacts a ban/removal.
"It's not censorship," followed by the dictionary definition of censorship.
Turquoise
O Canada
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


I live in the nanny state capital of the United States. I have a mayor that wants to ban salt and has doubled the price of cigarettes since he took office. What do you think?
Well then, Uzique, I will concede that it is unfortunate how "multicultural" cities become pathetically politically correct.

Then again, that may be part of why multiculturalism isn't necessarily a good thing to begin with.
It's got nothing to do with being a multicultural city and everything to do with having an uberliberal neurotic Jew as mayor for three terms.
The more multicultural you are, the more you end up having to pander to minority groups.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Well then, Uzique, I will concede that it is unfortunate how "multicultural" cities become pathetically politically correct.

Then again, that may be part of why multiculturalism isn't necessarily a good thing to begin with.
It's got nothing to do with being a multicultural city and everything to do with having an uberliberal neurotic Jew as mayor for three terms.
The more multicultural you are, the more you end up having to pander to minority groups.
No, it's got more to do with champagne socialists thinking they know what's best for everyone else and trying to turn their ideas into law regardless of the consequences. Then they sit around patting each other on the back, telling each other that they made a difference in the world, and go on about their lives with a boosted self esteem. Nevermind that their meddling has caused vast and highly concentrated ghettos to spring up, the cost of living to skyrocket beyond all necessity and the tax levels to rise to the highest in the nation to support their misguided stupidity.

It's got nothing to do with multiculturalism and everything to do with hubris.

Multiculturalism happens to be a strength, not a weakness.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-09-16 10:20:24)

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-Frederick Bastiat
DrunkFace
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Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Well then, Uzique, I will concede that it is unfortunate how "multicultural" cities become pathetically politically correct.

Then again, that may be part of why multiculturalism isn't necessarily a good thing to begin with.
It's got nothing to do with being a multicultural city and everything to do with having an uberliberal neurotic Jew as mayor for three terms.
The more multicultural you are, the more you end up having to pander to minority groups less racist you can be and get away with.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6866|SE London

mikkel wrote:

Uzique wrote:

mikkel wrote:

This thread is hilarious. Six pages of Uzique trying to put a spin on essentially suggesting that it isn't censorship because you can do anything as long as people don't complain.

I particularly like the "I haven't seen a major company feature racially charged advertising, so it must not be legal" rationale.
it's hilarious because you do not understand what 'censorship' is, in legal terms, at all.

the ASA are not "censoring" adverts. they are exercising legal rights that every single person has.
I have no interest in the legal definition of censorship in any jurisdiction, nor which rights the ASA are making use of. I just find your posts in this thread to be amusing.
The ASA don't have any power to censor. They don't have any power full stop.

Welcome to the world of British regulation. All gentlemans agreements, with no actual enforcement.

To clarify, the ASA is a private body funded by those who sell advertising space. They are independent and determine what is or is not appropriate to be in an advert. If they decide for some reason that something is inappropriate, they can request that those selling the advertising space don't run the advert.

There is no enforcement. Therefore there is no censorship.

It is obvious that there should be some sort of centralised body to judge what is and isn't appropriate to be in adverts. The two best such systems are in the UK and France. In the US it is more of a mish mash with separate bodies for different media groups selling advertising space having their own regulators.

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