Fair points. Admittedly, I am intrigued by how quickly flouridation caught on with so little evidence of any benefits.rdx-fx wrote:
If it has a medicinal effect, the dosage should be regulated by the FDA.Turquoise wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_the_United_States
There seems to be a lot of back and forth about whether or not water flouridation is a net benefit to society. I suppose what makes me lean more in favor of flouridation is the history of conspiracy theories attached to the anti-flouridation crowd.
In the fresh water supply, there is no control over intake quantity per person.
At least in toothpaste, there is a somewhat controlled dosage schedule (at once or twice a day oral exposure).
Uncontrolled use of fluoridated water can lead to unintended concentrations of fluoride in unexpected places. Like instant teas (tea has an affinity for absorbing fluoride, concentrated powdered tea mix multiplies this concentration), tobacco (worse than tea plants for absorbing fluoride from water), marijuana, decaf coffee (multiply that for instant decaf coffee),or some other plant derived foods.
Some people drink a gallon or two of instant iced tea per day (see above link), some people don't drink any tap water in a day. For this simple reason, using the public water system as the delivery vehicle for fluoride makes no logical sense. There's no dosage control.
The only common sense use of fluoride for public benefit would be at a controlled level in toothpaste or mouthwash, with the option for non-fluoridated toothpaste for those of us that find nuclear waste in our toothpaste to be slightly gross
Fortunately for me, personally, they do not fluoridate the water in the area I live in.
Even if they did, the high calcium content in the water here would bind it up rather neatly.
But, but, aren't farmers and ranchers the bread and butter of 'Merica? Especially, corn farmers? Can't let cheaper forms of sugar destroy those poor corn farmers now... gotta have corn subsidies and raise tariffs.rdx-fx wrote:
I'm waiting for the day when someone figures out that corn syrup is bad for you.
Probably something along the lines of 'acts like a sugar in the body, but partially bypasses the body's regular sugar handling mechanisms'. Or as an indirect precursor to cancer, through fatty tissue hormone generation combined with cancer's sugar-dependent initial metabolism to generate vascular tissue.
You can only drink about 6oz of real Coke made with sugar, but you can down a 64oz American Coke without getting that semi-nauseated 'too much sugar' feeling; Corn syrup in the American colas - same calories as the sugared one, but your body doesn't react to it as sugar.
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But, meh, what's a little cancer, diabetes, obesity, heart disease, and premature puberty.. we save $0.20 a pound by not paying the US tarriff on Sugar and the consumer can consume 8x more of our product without being full! it's a win-win for the manufacturer!
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Here in the USA, we have corn syrup in every-damn-thing.
We have it added into molasses, a byproduct of sugar processing.
We have it added into caramel, which is pure sugar cooked down.
The Fucking Dumb Asses (FDA) want to make Cheerios and Tea controlled substances, as they have 'medicinal properties'.
But not tobacco, alcohol, corn syrup, or the latest pharmaceutical heavily advertised on TV (which will have a corresponding ambulance chaser lawyer advertisement on TV 6 months from now);
"Has your liver spontaneously exploded? Have you shit out your kidneys? Do you have anal seepage? Has your dog spontaneously combusted? You or your loved one turned into a ravenous Zombie with an insatiable hunger for human nervous tissue? Murdered everyone at your 20th high-school reunion while sleep-walking? Then you may be entitled to financial compensation. All of the above symptoms have been linked to MegaPharmaCorp's prescription drug Fuckitol, originally proscribed to give you healthier looking toenails. Call now"
TL/DR version: Why aren't harmful things banned here? Look at flouride in the water - banned in Japan and Europe for the nuclear waste byproduct that it is, we still use it because the FDA is functionally useless, and our senate is bought and paid for with lobbyist funds.
Ugh. You're right though. I have soda maybe once a month on average, but most anything that is sweetened included it, even products you least expect. It is not practical to exclude it from your diet completely sadly. I also like how the FDA allows manufactures to label food that contains transfats as transfat free, if the level is low enough below their guidelines. It may be minuscule, but it is still misleading.
edit: buzzed :g
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Couldn't resist:Turquoise wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_the_United_States
There seems to be a lot of back and forth about whether or not water flouridation is a net benefit to society. I suppose what makes me lean more in favor of flouridation is the history of conspiracy theories attached to the anti-flouridation crowd.
This is very true. I have an aunt who developed an allergy to corn (specifically HFCS), and she has a hell of a time finding products that don't contain the shit.Phrozenbot wrote:
Ugh. You're right though. I have soda maybe once a month on average, but most anything that is sweetened included it, even products you least expect. It is not practical to exclude it from your diet completely sadly.
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Believe it or not, that's exactly the same scene I was thinking of... lolFEOS wrote:
Couldn't resist:Turquoise wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_in_the_United_States
There seems to be a lot of back and forth about whether or not water flouridation is a net benefit to society. I suppose what makes me lean more in favor of flouridation is the history of conspiracy theories attached to the anti-flouridation crowd.
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