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11 Bravo wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

is it a big leap?  total alcohol deaths in the US as of 2008 were at least under 50K if i remember correctly.  second hand smoke gets credit for way more deaths that that per year.  so ya i guess it was a big leap.

Second hand smoke kills no one. If a non-smoker lives with a smoker and dies, that will be credited as a second hand smoke death no matter what the real cause of death. Statistics on issues like these are never to be trusted.

says you.  like i said i have seen air filters of airplanes when they allowed smoking compared to what they look like now.  not to mention air filters in homes of smokers.

So don't smoke, and feel free to preach to smokers as much as you want, but it's not your right to force me to quit.

JohnG@lt wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Second hand smoke kills no one. If a non-smoker lives with a smoker and dies, that will be credited as a second hand smoke death no matter what the real cause of death. Statistics on issues like these are never to be trusted.

says you.  like i said i have seen air filters of airplanes when they allowed smoking compared to what they look like now.  not to mention air filters in homes of smokers.

So don't smoke, and feel free to preach to smokers as much as you want, but it's not your right to force me to quit.

i dont.  except growing up i had to fly on planes and be in places filled with smoke.  im sure that did some damage.  so its too late for me.  if its a public health hazard then one should have the right to ban it.

11 Bravo wrote:

jord wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

hmmmm... i enjoy drinking and driving...why cant i do that without getting in trouble?

You can just don't get caught.

Pretty big leap you made there though.

is it a big leap?  total alcohol deaths in the US as of 2008 were at least under 50K if i remember correctly.  second hand smoke gets credit for way more deaths that that per year.  so ya i guess it was a big leap.

Then don't stand next to someone smoking in a public place or get a girlfriend that smokes?

I can assume some statistics and try to "remember correctly" about air being polluted by cars/manufacturing/power plants being worse than second hand smoke. You have the option not to work in manufactuing and be exposed to that like you have the option not to stand/sit next to someone who is smoking.

Here's a statistic. 250k people a day die on average, there are bigger issues than trying to ban smoking.

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11 Bravo wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

is it a big leap?  total alcohol deaths in the US as of 2008 were at least under 50K if i remember correctly.  second hand smoke gets credit for way more deaths that that per year.  so ya i guess it was a big leap.

Second hand smoke kills no one. If a non-smoker lives with a smoker and dies, that will be credited as a second hand smoke death no matter what the real cause of death. Statistics on issues like these are never to be trusted.

says you.  like i said i have seen air filters of airplanes when they allowed smoking compared to what they look like now.  not to mention air filters in homes of smokers.

you are talking to an addict, mate. to a person who's fucked up so hard he's incapable of looking at this matter objectively. his so called "arguments" in defence of smoking are speaking for themselves. let the poor bastard be.

Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

It's a huge numbers game. Well how long was the flight? how many cigs have been smoked? I'm sure I can say orange juice and organic vegetables kill your liver if you've chugged 40 litres a day and 10 kilos of veggies a day too.

no its not a numbers game.  filters get changed on a time cycle.  same time every time.  the difference is amazing.

Well if you don't mind me asking... how many cigs per flight and how long was the flight?

they are not changed every flight.  it is like every 3 months or something.

Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

It's a huge numbers game. Well how long was the flight? how many cigs have been smoked? I'm sure I can say orange juice and organic vegetables kill your liver if you've chugged 40 litres a day and 10 kilos of veggies a day too.

no its not a numbers game.  filters get changed on a time cycle.  same time every time.  the difference is amazing.

Well if you don't mind me asking... how many cigs per flight and how long was the flight?

edit: fat people see the doctors more on health problems then smokers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-10963427

Fat people don't effect other peoples health.

Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Well if you don't mind me asking... how many cigs per flight and how long was the flight?

they are not changed every flight.  it is like every 3 months or something.

Well of course it's going to be dirty since we can assume that in every single flight there would be people smoking. It's not like you assume a smoker would smoke 24/7 right. Everything in moderation brah.

point is the same filter after three months of no smoking is beyond night and day.

jord wrote:

Shahter wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

says you.  like i said i have seen air filters of airplanes when they allowed smoking compared to what they look like now.  not to mention air filters in homes of smokers.

you are talking to an addict, mate. to a person who's fucked up so hard he's incapable of looking at this matter objectively. his so called "arguments" in defence of smoking are speaking for themselves. let the poor bastard be.

And I've never smoked and I'm still defending keeping it legal. I have no addiction, I just happen to believe in personal freedoms and have an "each to their own" philosophy. John is doing a better job at debating the point than you are, you've just come and made some bone, semi controversial post with your dismissive attitude. Thanks for contributing...

"each to their own" only works when you aren't effecting other people by your actions. Smoking effects far more then yourself.

Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Well of course it's going to be dirty since we can assume that in every single flight there would be people smoking. It's not like you assume a smoker would smoke 24/7 right. Everything in moderation brah.

point is the same filter after three months of no smoking is beyond night and day.

be an asian. build trooper immune system to pollution my air filter at home is full of dust lulz. change it every 3 months too =/

edit: drunkface, anybody that smokes inside a mall or restaurant is a twat imo. smoking inside stinks, i would rather have a smoke outside instead of stinking up the place. common courtesies ftw.

Smoking outside stinks just as much.

DrunkFace wrote:

jord wrote:

Shahter wrote:

you are talking to an addict, mate. to a person who's fucked up so hard he's incapable of looking at this matter objectively. his so called "arguments" in defence of smoking are speaking for themselves. let the poor bastard be.

And I've never smoked and I'm still defending keeping it legal. I have no addiction, I just happen to believe in personal freedoms and have an "each to their own" philosophy. John is doing a better job at debating the point than you are, you've just come and made some bone, semi controversial post with your dismissive attitude. Thanks for contributing...

"each to their own" only works when you aren't effecting other people by your actions. Smoking effects far more then yourself.

Then ban it in public places. People smoking in their own home is nobodys business.

then people would start complaining about the children in smoking homes

DrunkFace wrote:

jord wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

"each to their own" only works when you aren't effecting other people by your actions. Smoking effects far more then yourself.

Then ban it in public places. People smoking in their own home is nobodys business.

Fine by me.

Is it not already in ausland?