11 Bravo
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i do however think he should donate to democraps.  i mean all the crying about fox from them and the sheeple europeeons increases their ratings.
eleven bravo
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11 Bravo
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eleven bravo wrote:

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why not?  they already own us anyway.
Jay
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+2,006|5612|London, England

eleven bravo wrote:

I really dont believe you guys believe that multi billion dollar companies have the same rights of speech as individuals do.  Its called a "distortion of the market place of ideas"
Why does corporations having the right to free speech bother you so much?

You do understand that corporations are limited in their campaign donations by the market? If people perceive that a corporation is donating heavily towards one party, what stops members of the other party from organizing a boycott? This is the danger of politicizing a corporation and companies know it full well. Unless they're sitting there with a monopoly it's in their best interest to remain neutral.

P.S. - Move out of cali before you end up like ATG with the conspiracy theories. I dunno what it is about that state but people come up with some crazy shit out there.

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eleven bravo
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JohnG@lt wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

I really dont believe you guys believe that multi billion dollar companies have the same rights of speech as individuals do.  Its called a "distortion of the market place of ideas"
Why does corporations having the right to free speech bother you so much?

You do understand that corporations are limited in their campaign donations by the market? If people perceive that a corporation is donating heavily towards one party, what stops members of the other party from organizing a boycott? This is the danger of politicizing a corporation and companies know it full well. Unless they're sitting there with a monopoly it's in their best interest to remain neutral.
totally disagree.  Im not one of the "free market will fix itself" guys


its not a conspiracy when its so fucking overt

Last edited by eleven bravo (2010-08-19 09:23:49)

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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5612|London, England

eleven bravo wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

I really dont believe you guys believe that multi billion dollar companies have the same rights of speech as individuals do.  Its called a "distortion of the market place of ideas"
Why does corporations having the right to free speech bother you so much?

You do understand that corporations are limited in their campaign donations by the market? If people perceive that a corporation is donating heavily towards one party, what stops members of the other party from organizing a boycott? This is the danger of politicizing a corporation and companies know it full well. Unless they're sitting there with a monopoly it's in their best interest to remain neutral.
totally disagree.  Im not one of the "free market will fix itself" guys


its not a conspiracy when its so fucking overt
So we should do what? Go back to backroom deals? Having corporations promise consulting positions to congressmen when they leave office? Have them spread their money around in umbrella organizations?

So fucking naive to think this did anything other than make it more out in the open. Sorry your fantasy was destroyed
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6659|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Hold on to your seat Turquoise... ready? We need the Canadian system of campaign finance in this country if we are ever to cut down on the corruption. The Canadian government provides the funding for candidates election campaigns, not private or corporate donations. If a candidate receives (I think) 5% of the vote in an election cycle, he and his party receive government funding for their campaign in the next cycle that matches the other parties.
Yep, they do have a good system for it. 
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6659|North Carolina

eleven bravo wrote:

I really dont believe you guys believe that multi billion dollar companies have the same rights of speech as individuals do.  Its called a "distortion of the market place of ideas"
Pretty much...  although it could also be said that it demonstrates that anyone can be bought.

We have the best democracy money can buy...  literally.
Harmor
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I wonder if anyone tracked the personal donations of the media?  I've heard that upwards of 90% of them donate to the Democratic party.

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