BF2S Forums Illuminati/ New World Order in the Media

Ioan92 wrote:

And yet, need I remind you that without us, you'd still be flying in DC-3's.

Thank Henri Coanda for your jets.

someone else would have helped invent jets then v0v

Ioan92 wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Ioan92 wrote:

I saw that you guys learn friction in university.

We learn that in the 9th grade, starting next year we will begin Energy, then Quantum, Thermodynamic and so on.


So kindly, shut the fuck up

1-I learned friction in highschool for both regents physics and AP.  Many others are just like me in that regard.
2-You say that as though they are difficult to grasp.

musta been a gud skool,

wtf is hard to grasp in Ff=u x FN anywais

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZGbtK2K … re=related

we dont care man, the fuck does that have to do with the thread? so you're a physics student...

that means fucking what to do with your credibility on political, economical and social matters?

yeah okay the last 2 pages with you bragging about inventing jets is 'baiting'

and nothing at all to do with your gay little penchant for flight sims and your school physics course

have a gold star and shut up

Man, I dotn see why you guys have to be such assholes.  I never claimed that vaccines and flouride were going to poison me or anyone else.  I never took any shots at you guys so I think its quite unfair for you poke fun at me.  I respect your opinion on the matter and never took it to a personal level.  All I did was state that because of your backgrounds you were probably not apt to taking any of this seriously.

There certainly is a push in the direction of globalism and global governance happening, I think we can all agree on that.  Thats all I've ever rallied against, I fear that with the bringing of a supranational global structure the ideals that my country were built upon will be essentially overturned or challenged by this system.  That type of system would negate everything America stood for and everything that people like GS and Marine fought for.

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SonderKommando wrote:

Man, I dotn see why you guys have to be such assholes.  I never claimed that vaccines and flouride were going to poison me or anyone else.  I never took any shots at you guys so I think its quite unfair for you poke fun at me.  I respect your opinion on the matter and never took it to a personal level.  All I did was state that because of your backgrounds you were probably not apt to taking any of this seriously.

There certainly is a push in the direction of globalism and global governance happening, I think we can all agree on that.  Thats all I've ever rallied against, I fear that with the bringing of a supranational global structure the ideals that my country was built upon will be essentially overturned or challenged by a this system.  That type of system would negate everything America stood for and everything that people like GS and Marine fought for.

I would like to add that I do not think that "Americans" control their country, the president neigter, it just sounds ilogic seeing their progress, in my opinion it might not neccesarily be the illuminati shit controlling them but just the army or the "secret services" kind of shit. Same would apply to all  at least half assed countries.

i would say romania but thats more of 1/4

Riveting.

rdx-fx wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

conspiracy nuts invest so much emotion in their belief that they refuse to recognize or acknowledge any other answer than the one they are looking for

JohnG@lt wrote:

Sounds like religion.

Conspiracy Theory, Religion, UFOs & Alien Abduction, X-Files. 
Same root cause;

http://xfphotos.fredfarm.com/season2/colony/cap252.jpg


To not be so much of a sarcastic ass about it;

Humans have an innate drive to understand, order, and organize their environment.
More so than any other creature, that need to make sense of our environment defines humanity.

Up until this part, I thought you were talking about the basis of science.

rdx-fx wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Up until this part, I thought you were talking about the basis of science.

Same root drive, I'd say.

Desire to explain, understand, or control the world around you.
Some go the route of empiricism, science, logic - some go the route of belief, tradition, and religion - some get lost in the middle.

One caveman invented Fire, another told tales of Prometheus stealing fire from the Gods, and the third.. well, he started barbecuing people that didn't follow his rules.

In essence; we are all trying to find the truth. Could be a man in a white coat trying to find it, or it could be a so called "conspiracy nut".

My point being, unless you are able to overwhelm either with undeniable logic/reasoning, they will believe what they think is the truth. This thread has far from overwhelmed the "conspiracy nuts" with logic/reasoning and to suggest they lack intelligence due to it, is silly.

My belief is that there is a reason why all these symbols have been put where they are.

On a side note, I disagree with you and think its good humans are this way as it can form the beginnings to many great things.

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rdx-fx wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Up until this part, I thought you were talking about the basis of science.

rdx-fx wrote:

Same root drive, I'd say.
Desire to explain, understand, or control the world around you.

mafia996630 wrote:

In essence; we are all trying to find the truth. Could be a man in a white coat trying to find it, or it could be a so called "conspiracy nut".
On a side note, I disagree with you and think its good humans are this way as it can form the beginnings to many great things.

Good, bad, or indifferent. Doesn't matter. It's just how people are wired.

Same drive can inspire wonderful discoveries, or drive men into madness, or just provide some peace and comfort.

The pitfall I see in most conspiracy theories is that they take a hard-won kernel of truth, then wrap it in a web of fantasy and conjecture.

Every little gem of a hidden truth discovered, does not need to be linked to a "it goes all the way to the top" conspiracy.
Sometimes it is enough to say, "Hey, look at this! Isn't this interesting? Dunno WTF it means, but it's interesting".

Sometimes "We don't know" is the only answer you have, for the time being.

By using words such as "fantasy", you undermine it to a level where one would think you are talking about dragons and vampires.

Every little seed is part of the ecosystem, secondly its not human nature to accept things so why do you insist on singling out your application to a topic like this ?

Why don't you go to a scientist and force him to recognize that death a part of life and that he should say "We don't know".

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mafia996630 wrote:

By using words such as "fantasy", you undermine it to a level where one would think you are talking about dragons and vampires.

And there are people that believe vampires are real too.

I use the word Fantasy, not as a dismissive derogatory term.  I use the word Fantasy as it is defined, "imagination unrestricted by reality".

There is Fact, then there are intelligent theories based on those facts, then there is the leap where a few kernels of knowledge are used to provide credibility to fantasy.  Every good fiction author knows how to weave fact and fantasy into an entertaining story.

The line between theory and fantasy is blurry for some, though.
The Bilderburg meetings are a fact,
it's a fact that the people involved are disproportionately powerful and influential.
Making the leap to grand conspiracy involving a lizard-demon sounds like fantasy to me.

mafia996630 wrote:

Every little seed is part of the ecosystem, secondly its not human nature to accept things so why do you insist on singling out your application to a topic like this ?

Not sure where you're going with that.
On one hand, people find comfort in belief, in tradition, in things-as-they-are, in continuity.  They tend to violently resist change in those core areas.

On another hand, people are driven to understand and discover too.  Sometimes the discoveries cause violent change in and of themselves.

mafia996630 wrote:

Why don't you go to a scientist and force him to recognize that death a part of life and that he should say "We don't know".

"We don't know, for the time being" is the point.
There is a key difference in knowing a specific thing for fact, and using that kernel of knowledge as the heart of a shoddy framework explaining far more than your knowledge supports.

Know what you know, know what you don't know, have the good sense to know the difference, and the honesty not to make shit up just because it sounds good.

To put it better;
"it seems that I am wiser than he is to this small extent, that I do not think I know what I do not know" Socrates

And just because we do not know something now, doesn't mean we cannot try to find the answer.

rdx wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:
    By using words such as "fantasy", you undermine it to a level where one would think you are talking about dragons and vampires.

And there are people that believe vampires are real too.

I use the word Fantasy, not as a dismissive derogatory term.  I use the word Fantasy as it is defined, "imagination unrestricted by reality".

There is Fact, then there are intelligent theories based on those facts, then there is the leap where a few kernels of knowledge are used to provide credibility to fantasy.  Every good fiction author knows how to weave fact and fantasy into an entertaining story.

The line between theory and fantasy is blurry for some, though.
The Bilderburg meetings are a fact,
it's a fact that the people involved are disproportionately powerful and influential.
Making the leap to grand conspiracy involving a lizard-demon sounds like fantasy to me.

And those people are far moved from reality.

Yea that does sound like a fantasy, but you must at-least gasp the sinister properties of such a meeting ? and if you do that, the result will probably be your own need to ask questions and consequently you will be told that you are a conspiracy nut.

rdx wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:
    Every little seed is part of the ecosystem, secondly its not human nature to accept things so why do you insist on singling out your application to a topic like this ?

Not sure where you're going with that.
On one hand, people find comfort in belief, in tradition, in things-as-they-are, in continuity.  They tend to violently resist change in those core areas.

On another hand, people are driven to understand and discover too.  Sometimes the discoveries cause violent change in and of themselves.

I was simply responding to your comment (below), and implying that while a seed might seem small; the implications can be mind blowing.

"Every little gem of a hidden truth discovered, does not need to be linked to a "it goes all the way to the top" conspiracy."

rdx wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:
    Why don't you go to a scientist and force him to recognize that death a part of life and that he should say "We don't know".

"We don't know, for the time being" is the point.
There is a key difference in knowing a specific thing for fact, and using that kernel of knowledge as the heart of a shoddy framework explaining far more than your knowledge supports.

Know what you know, know what you don't know, have the good sense to know the difference, and the honesty not to make shit up just because it sounds good.

To put it better;
"it seems that I am wiser than he is to this small extent, that I do not think I know what I do not know" Socrates

And just because we do not know something now, doesn't mean we cannot try to find the answer.

Your condition of 'time' seems inconsistent with the rest of the paragraph. From what i understand your saying the following : If you don't know, accept it for what it is, as in time you will know and certainly don't make up bullshit reasons.  And if you are saying that; i think its wrong as the minute you start accepting it for what it is, you will never find out.

I see it in steps, also your last line can be applied to conspiracy nuts as they are also trying to find the answer/truth (as i stated earlier).