Of course, it'd be political suicide. Then again it would be if a politician wanted to rectify other unpopular laws, like legalizing marijuana or lowering the drinking age to 18...DBBrinson1 wrote:
True, but what politician is going to stand up and say "Enough is enough. We're hitting these people too hard."? He'd be destroyed next election cycle with that one statement - "He's soft on Drunks!" That point also rings true with respect to the war on drugs.jord wrote:
Its a lot bigger social faux pas than it deserves to be. I know people that have driven over the limit many times, uneventfully.
Like I said before, it certainly isn't murder.
There's probably a niche in politics for a politician that uses logic and reason and doesn't worry about the backlash.
armed robbery is also not murder, until you kill someone in the process. Explain how a person is any less dead from a DWI wreck?jord wrote:
Its a lot bigger social faux pas than it deserves to be. I know people that have driven over the limit many times, uneventfully.
Like I said before, it certainly isn't murder.
better yet, explain to the wives of these men. Tell me what you would tell them as to how there husbands were not murdered and that DUI is completely blown out of proportion. Tell them that there husbands were simply victims of a "social faux pas".
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Shooting someone with a gun after robbing them is murder.
Getting into an alcohol induced car wreck isn't murder.
They're completely different incidents. Are you arguing to get rid of manslaughter in general and replace it with murder or what..?
Getting into an alcohol induced car wreck isn't murder.
They're completely different incidents. Are you arguing to get rid of manslaughter in general and replace it with murder or what..?
Never thought I would ever say something like this but, with your attitude, I honestly hope you are the next DWI victim, either you or someone you love. It appears the only way to get through to you the seriousness and the consequences of a persons "social faux pas". Then see if you can find the "logic and reason" for it.jord wrote:
There's probably a niche in politics for a politician that uses logic and reason and doesn't worry about the backlash.
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Well that's certainly one way to debate.lowing wrote:
Never thought I would ever say something like this but, with your attitude, I honestly hope you are the next DWI victim, either you or someone you love. It appears the only way to get through to you the seriousness and the consequences of a persons "social faux pas". Then see if you can find the "logic and reason" for it.jord wrote:
There's probably a niche in politics for a politician that uses logic and reason and doesn't worry about the backlash.
I think were done here lowing.
Same thing, the plan was not to murder anyone, the plan was to rob a bank.jord wrote:
Shooting someone with a gun after robbing them is murder.
Getting into an alcohol induced car wreck isn't murder.
They're completely different incidents. Are you arguing to get rid of manslaughter in general and replace it with murder or what..?
The plan was not to kill anyone with your car the plan was DWI.
That's a bit much.lowing wrote:
Never thought I would ever say something like this but, with your attitude, I honestly hope you are the next DWI victim, either you or someone you love. It appears the only way to get through to you the seriousness and the consequences of a persons "social faux pas". Then see if you can find the "logic and reason" for it.jord wrote:
There's probably a niche in politics for a politician that uses logic and reason and doesn't worry about the backlash.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
I see so now you are offended that I would say something like that, yet YOU have no problem excusing someone elses demise as a "social faux pas".jord wrote:
Well that's certainly one way to debate.lowing wrote:
Never thought I would ever say something like this but, with your attitude, I honestly hope you are the next DWI victim, either you or someone you love. It appears the only way to get through to you the seriousness and the consequences of a persons "social faux pas". Then see if you can find the "logic and reason" for it.jord wrote:
There's probably a niche in politics for a politician that uses logic and reason and doesn't worry about the backlash.
I think were done here lowing.
Yer right we are done, because you disgust me.
How so, is it any worse than dismissing the death of a family of 5 as a fuckin' "social faux pas", and punishing the fucker that did it as "lacking logic and reason"? Fuck him. If he has no sense of seriousness for it for others facing it, why would he have a different attitude toward it if it were some one he loved facing it? According to him it is no big deal, well then it is no big deal for it to happen to him.DBBrinson1 wrote:
That's a bit much.lowing wrote:
Never thought I would ever say something like this but, with your attitude, I honestly hope you are the next DWI victim, either you or someone you love. It appears the only way to get through to you the seriousness and the consequences of a persons "social faux pas". Then see if you can find the "logic and reason" for it.jord wrote:
There's probably a niche in politics for a politician that uses logic and reason and doesn't worry about the backlash.
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Wow. I've never had any real problem with debating with you lowing. Sure your opinions are old, outdated and grounded in blind patriotism, religion and emotion (consistancy isn't a redeeming feature for this as you like to maintain) but I didn't mind. I even debated with civility in response to your inciting and hate filled posts. I'm done now though, frankly I'm just going to follow the rest of this forum in ignoring you and your vile, spiteful posts. I feel very sorry for your children, and I say that with just utter sincerity.
I think it best your cretinous, stubborn self restrain from responding to my posts in future.
I think it best your cretinous, stubborn self restrain from responding to my posts in future.
I thought you said we were done........Move along.jord wrote:
Wow. I've never had any real problem with debating with you lowing. Sure your opinions are old, outdated and grounded in blind patriotism, religion and emotion (consistancy isn't a redeeming feature for this as you like to maintain) but I didn't mind. I even debated with civility in response to your inciting and hate filled posts. I'm done now though, frankly I'm just going to follow the rest of this forum in ignoring you and your vile, spiteful posts. I feel very sorry for your children, and I say that with just utter sincerity.
I think it best your cretinous, stubborn self restrain from responding to my posts in future.
Now we are done.
what the fuck lowinglowing wrote:
I honestly hope you are the next DWI victim, either you or someone you love.
read what he wrote, then put what I said in context, and stop cherry picking.krazed wrote:
what the fuck lowinglowing wrote:
I honestly hope you are the next DWI victim, either you or someone you love.
He sees no problem with DWI and anyone killed by one is just a victim of a "social faux pas". He then says punishment for such crimes lack l"ogic and reason"... So I maintain that if that is really his attitude, then he should be the next vicitim for he will be the most understanding of the one that hurt him or someone he loved. Why should he be so offended, it is not ok for him, but it is ok and a misunderstanding for everyone else? Fuck that.
Why so disgusted, killing someone with your car while you are drunk is no big deal right? Or is it no big deal for anyone else and only a big deal just for him? What bullshit!!
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Not responding to me also means not talking about me lest I be forced to have to respond again.
I maintain that if were one of my loved ones killed by a drunk id push for the highest manslaughter punishment in court. I wouldn't even attempt to push for a murder charge.
Simple, now don't pretend I'm saying shit I'm not, stop talking about me and don't quote me in future.
I maintain that if were one of my loved ones killed by a drunk id push for the highest manslaughter punishment in court. I wouldn't even attempt to push for a murder charge.
Simple, now don't pretend I'm saying shit I'm not, stop talking about me and don't quote me in future.
Then 2-5 out in a year and a half for the life of your child or your wife or your mother should seem just fine to you. My family however, is worth more to me than 1.5 years in prison for the cock sucker that killed them.jord wrote:
Not responding to me also means not talking about me lest I be forced to have to respond again.
I maintain that if were one of my loved ones killed by a drunk id push for the highest manslaughter punishment in court. I wouldn't even attempt to push for a murder charge.
Simple, now don't pretend I'm saying shit I'm not, stop talking about me and don't quote me in future.
Sorry you say something as fucked up stupid like DWI os a "social faux pas" and punishing it lacks "logic and reason" as you have in this thread and I will respond to it as I see fit. I really don't give a fuck if you respond to it or not.
People can do life sentances for manslaugher here. Again, try to argue with at least some amount of researched facts rather then writing out a high blood pressure 1 minute, poorly thought out reply.
Then again don't.
Then again don't.
If they can do life sentences there for man slaughter, and you approve, then what the fuck difference does it make what you charge them with? Does man slaughter look better than murder on a resume or something? I don't give a shit if they charge them with jay walking, as long as they go away forever and not have the chance to repeat offend like it is common place here in the states.jord wrote:
People can do life sentances for manslaugher here. Again, try to argue with at least some amount of researched facts rather then writing out a high blood pressure 1 minute, poorly thought out reply.
Then again don't.
If there is any lack of "logic or reason", it is in your argument that they should be charged with a lesser crime but still lock them away forever......What the fuck is your point here?
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i think lowing is unemployed again
Tu Stultus Es
and I think you are still a jack-off. So all is right with the world.eleven bravo wrote:
i think lowing is unemployed again
sounds like I called it
Tu Stultus Es
lol I know I called it.eleven bravo wrote:
sounds like I called it
( sorry gainfully employed and always have been)
except for that time that you werent and told everbody in the forum about it.lowing wrote:
lol I know I called it.eleven bravo wrote:
sounds like I called it
( sorry gainfully employed and always have been)
Tu Stultus Es
I told everyone in this forum I had been laid off. I never said I stayed laid off. In fact, I left the job that laid me off on Friday and started my new job on Monday... You can roll like that when you have marketable skills and do not wait for your Obama bucks tp show up.eleven bravo wrote:
except for that time that you werent and told everbody in the forum about it.lowing wrote:
lol I know I called it.eleven bravo wrote:
sounds like I called it
( sorry gainfully employed and always have been)
The only time I was not working for a company is when I tried to run my own business and failed.