mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6656

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

Are you running around to each guy and taking them down in quick succession? I played it pretty slow. After much waiting and finally taking a guy down, I'd hide the body and stalk some more before going for the next one, so the energy was well charged up by then.
I think the main issue was I played every level by never getting spotted and aiming to knock out via takedown every guard. That is just way more takedowns than it was designed for. Also, it works out a lot better if you are doing that to never eat food because it is just a waste - the last battery always recharges and the others dont.
That's exactly what I did and never had any problems with food

As for your other points, I agree. It all went downhill
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when it came to the third boss. I was expecting at least a little part where he'd hide among the statues and I'd have to find him and he'd jump out and scare the shit outta me, but nope, we just took turns popping out of corners shooting each other. The Jensen's-DNA-is-the-key-to-augmentation reveal was not a reveal at all and poorly done.

What really pissed me off the most was Panchea. That first hangar/warehouse had a lot of different entry points and pathways but there was no point in using them since no one was around. I figured I'd at least have to use them when sneaking out or something but nope. And then things got worse with the wanna-be zombie apocalypse scenario. I was so pissed off at that point I decided to use up all that ammo I'd been stockpiling and massacred all of them. Darrow's social battle was mediocre as you just had to pick the same option over and over. The battle with the Chinese lady was as bland as the rest of the bosses but for some reason I actually enjoyed this battle; maybe it's because I was finally at the end.

And then being able to choose your ending with the press of a button. What a cop out. At least have the ending be influenced by our previous choices. If I had murdered everyone I came in contact with, it'd still be the same as if I left everyone alive. Completing sidequests or missions in different ways has no impact. How boring.

Last edited by mtb0minime (2011-08-29 11:49:40)

TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6441|Brisbane, Australia

Yep. That conversation with Spoiler (highlight to read):
Darrow at the end was terrible. Not only was any response from Jensen basically the same (you are wrong, stop this) but you "win" by choosing Spoiler (highlight to read):
the same thing over and over, like you said. It was just terrible.

There is a fancy game design term for player actions not influencing anything, I think it is "player agency" but I could be wrong. Whatever it is, it doesnt exist in this game. Jensen is so frustratingly moronic in all the cutscenes, and doesnt correspond at all to someone who just ghosted through an entire corporate facility.
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mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6656

I just went through the first-ish mission in the factory murdering every terrorist and cop. Reached the end. Now I'm going back through and murdering all the cops that are investigating the crime scene >:D
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6154|what

mtb0minime wrote:

I just went through the first-ish mission in the factory murdering every terrorist and cop. Reached the end. Now I'm going back through and murdering all the cops that are investigating the crime scene >
It's cops all the way down!
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Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6717
they need to learn how to do endings from fallout.

only diff is jensen feeling guilty if he killed a lot of peeps or not at the end. bleh.

gameplay is pretty good though.
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Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6469
Anyone who kills anyone in this game is a wimp.
-_{MoW}_-Assasin
Member
+13|6729|Australia
I killed everyone
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|5966|London, England

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

Yep. That conversation with Spoiler (highlight to read):
Darrow at the end was terrible. Not only was any response from Jensen basically the same (you are wrong, stop this) but you "win" by choosing Spoiler (highlight to read):
the same thing over and over, like you said. It was just terrible.

There is a fancy game design term for player actions not influencing anything, I think it is "player agency" but I could be wrong. Whatever it is, it doesnt exist in this game. Jensen is so frustratingly moronic in all the cutscenes, and doesnt correspond at all to someone who just ghosted through an entire corporate facility.
Its not a story about Adam Jensen, its a story for you.

Jensen is made into a robot (no pun intended) to have no impact on the game and ultimately it is your journey to see a world affected by augmentations and to experience first hand how they hurt and help the planet. You watch as factions oppose each other and the common folk give their opinions on most important debate of the time. Ultimately it all comes down to the players choice, not adams.

The game cant be appreciated if you cant see both sides of the argument for human augmentation.

The ending mission was okay, it wasn't done perfectly but I didn't hate it. Spoiler (highlight to read):
I actually didnt kill any of the people at the end, it was hard but It didn't feel right
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SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6661|The darkside of Denver
Im having such a hard time finishing this game. sigh.....
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|5966|London, England

SonderKommando wrote:

Im having such a hard time finishing this game. sigh.....
me too dont worry
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6694
I'm in Montreal. How far is that?
aerodynamic
FOCKING HELL
+241|5754|Roma

Superior Mind wrote:

I'm in Montreal. How far is that?
halfway
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SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6661|The darkside of Denver
Im still in Shanghai or whatever. infiltrating the medical building.  I just get spotted and then start over.. I suppose i just just duke it out and forgo the whole stealth thing.
Sisco
grandmaster league revivalist
+493|6344
This game is awesome! I spent the first hour just exploring the Sarif headquarters, investigating the drug theft. I almost forgot how nice it is to have this kind of freedom. I opened every of the 50 or so lockers in the manufacturing plants locker room
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TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6441|Brisbane, Australia

Mutantbear wrote:

The ending mission was okay, it wasn't done perfectly but I didn't hate it. Spoiler (highlight to read):
I actually didnt kill any of the people at the end, it was hard but It didn't feel right
I thought it didnt feel right to have Spoiler (highlight to read):
zombies in the game at all so I stopped caring at that point :p


Everything up to the end of the Singapore Facility was fantastic A+ stuff, its just a pity the end of the game was such a let down. I appreciate it is probably the best we are going to get from a AAA game though, they will never exist without meddling to make it more cinematic/like a game (ie. boss fights).
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Sisco
grandmaster league revivalist
+493|6344
Love how theres buckets of yellow paint everywhere
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UK|Hooligan
Seriously, fuck off.
+103|6689|"The Empire"
The downside to this game is weapons for me were usless, you dont really need them if you choose to be sneaky. I filled my whole inventory with all weapons and ammo onlySpoiler (highlight to read):
and apart from the last level with all the zombie like augs, i had nearly everything left unused.I saved them expecting to need them.
I would play this game differently should i do it again.
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6576|London
Finally finished this. *vague spoilers but you honestly shouldn't give a shit*

Could that ending be anymore like something from metal gear solid? Commentary about human nature voiced over real life images... except it comes across as cheap and stupid because at least MGS knows to make these cutscenes really long and for the dialogue to make no sense to give the illusion of being 'deep'. MGS just felt like a massive influence throughout tbh; even the shitty boss fights (which all involved running up to the bosses and pressing F2 twice to kill them instantly) seemed like poorly done rip-offs of the epic MGS boss fights (cyborg ninja/vamp with the girl, vulkan raven/ocelote for the other two).

I also (dis)liked how you talk down the evil villain from his grand scheme of world destruction in about 2 minutes of really crappy conversation:
'You're a dumbass'
'Oh yeah, damn. Lots of people are dead already... but lets abort everything'

Last edited by Aries_37 (2011-09-14 05:21:11)

TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6441|Brisbane, Australia

Yeh that final conversation is comically bad.
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Sisco
grandmaster league revivalist
+493|6344
Where can I get the soundtrack? It´s so fantastic!
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Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|5789|Catherine Black

mtb0minime wrote:

That's what I did too. Dumb whiny old cunt.

I really really love how deep the conspiracies go! Jensen broke his mirror in the bathroom so he wanted a replacement and keeps bugging the apartment complex. They tell him the order isn't ready yet and that they're waiting for the supplier to get back to them. HOWEVER, I checked the complex's e-mail and IT TURNS OUT... THE MIRROR HAS BEEN SITTING IN THE WAREHOUSE FOR WEEKS NOW AND THE COMPLEX IS TOO LAZY TO SEND SOMEONE OVER TO GET IT!!! FUCKING BLOWN = MIND.

I N C E P T I O N
D E E P
E P I C
C O N S P I R A C Y
CORPORATE E S P I O N A G E
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6694
lmfao
Sisco
grandmaster league revivalist
+493|6344
Haha, how cool is that!
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TheTrueQuaid
What was I doing mars?
+11|5900|Assachusetts
I liked the game till the end and as was already stated that finale just was a big letdown. At no point did I give a shit about augmented humans or not so I could care less about the humanity angle so maybe I missed out on the deeper meanings of the morale choices but even then you could kill everyone and the game would still end the same way.....

When I first started playing I was like wait a second this is MGS2 Sons of Liberty, they really took a lot of cues from that game.

Last edited by TheTrueQuaid (2011-09-25 11:06:17)

Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6694
There should have been a multiplayer component to this game. Stalking each other etc.

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