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2010-07-22 09:51:03
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6890|Mhz

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

It isn't much like a netbook though. You can use a netbook without needing a PC or Mac around to feed it things, a iPad seems to need other stuff to make it usable, maybe not, can you put music/films on it without being forced to buy through itunes and without having to use another computer? Plus it cant read any external media either that I know of.
What do you mean "can't read external media"? A webpage is external media. Virtually anything is external media.
CDs, SD cards, DVDs, Bluray etc.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2010-07-22 09:51:25)

2010-07-22 09:51:24
pace51
Boom?
+194|5443|Markham, Ontario

aerodynamic wrote:

So I received an email from my Uni that says "We are planning on collaborating with Apple inc. to try out an innovative project that uses their new product the iPad. This will make our University one of the two first universities (the other being Pittsburgh University) to use this technology. All the students and teachers will have a 40% discount upon purchasing the iPad at any official Apple Store. Please respond to this email so we can add your name to the list that will be sent to Apple." So a 40% discount on the iPad. Should I do it?
Ask them to give you a 40% discount on something useful.
2010-07-22 09:51:47
Metal-Eater-GR
I can haz titanium paancakez?
+490|6542

oug wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Uzique wrote:

i'd get it on discount... what's the worst that can happen? you have to sell it on ebay and still make a profit? win/win
Agreed.
how much do they cost here in Banania?
2010-07-22 09:54:59
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6852|SE London

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

It isn't much like a netbook though. You can use a netbook without needing a PC or Mac around to feed it things, a iPad seems to need other stuff to make it usable, maybe not, can you put music/films on it without being forced to buy through itunes and without having to use another computer? Plus it cant read any external media either that I know of.
What do you mean "can't read external media"? A webpage is external media. Virtually anything is external media.
CDs, SD cards, DVDs, Bluray etc.
Ah, you mean removable media.

No, not really - unless you count cameras.
2010-07-22 09:56:22
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6789|Πάϊ
I've no idea man

hell my pc is like 10 years old!

k wait

http://www.skroutz.gr/c/25/laptop.html?keyphrase=ipad
ƒ³
2010-07-22 09:57:20
Metal-Eater-GR
I can haz titanium paancakez?
+490|6542
600 ευρω... παρ' τα αρχιδια μου
2010-07-22 09:58:04
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6890|Mhz

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


What do you mean "can't read external media"? A webpage is external media. Virtually anything is external media.
CDs, SD cards, DVDs, Bluray etc.
Ah, you mean removable media.

No, not really - unless you count cameras.
So, going back you Uzi's bit about it being like a netbook, it's really nothing like a netbook at all and goes back to being a big iPhone without the phone?
2010-07-22 10:00:03
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6789|Πάϊ
ditto

wouldn't even pay half that
ƒ³
2010-07-22 10:01:49
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6852|SE London

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:


CDs, SD cards, DVDs, Bluray etc.
Ah, you mean removable media.

No, not really - unless you count cameras.
So, going back you Uzi's bit about it being like a netbook, it's really nothing like a netbook at all and goes back to being a big iPhone without the phone?
It's nothing like a netbook. It's just a gimmicky and fairly pointless gadget, that is very nice to use and very desireable.

Having an iPad to play with on long journeys is great. I like them, but can't justify buying something so pointless to myself.
2010-07-22 10:02:53
13rin
Member
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I will eventually buy one.  I am waiting for the price to ebb.  If I could find one for 40% -I would buy it.  Missus will probably be the main user though.  If I'm on the desktop she won't use the laptop to check her e-mail and peruse clothing sites, but she'll use her iphone.  I'll end up using it as a reader.

If your school is switching to them you can bet there will class lectures, presentations and shit beam out to them.  You may end up having to buy one anyways, at full price cause you opted out.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2010-07-22 10:24:10
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7113|Alberta, Canada

@Winston, the flash has been an ongoing issue for the touch, iPhone and the iPad. They are trying to work on it, but it is a bit of a pain since a lot of websites use flash.

In terms of HD and widescreen, it does do widescreen and fullscreen, but unfortunately has the 4:3 aspect ratio. I still think video looks great. If I wanna watch HD, i'll watch my HDTV, this does just fine for watching YouTube and movies as well. I put saving private Ryan on here and it looks decent.
2010-07-22 10:30:51
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7009|Toronto | Canada

Ryan wrote:

@Winston, the flash has been an ongoing issue for the touch, iPhone and the iPad. They are trying to work on it, but it is a bit of a pain since a lot of websites use flash.

In terms of HD and widescreen, it does do widescreen and fullscreen, but unfortunately has the 4:3 aspect ratio. I still think video looks great. If I wanna watch HD, i'll watch my HDTV, this does just fine for watching YouTube and movies as well. I put saving private Ryan on here and it looks decent.
Trying to work on it?

SJ outright called Flash a POS, theres no way Flash will ever be on iPads.

It doesnt do widescreen.  4:3 isnt widescreen.  You have to lose half of your picture or screen space to get widescreen which is just plain stupid.  And I dont know how they get away for saying something that isnt HD is HD.  Its like me saying my 2002 CRT TV is HD...

Its just a total waste to put a beautiful IPS panel in there but then have it be low resolution and 4:3.  You realize that the iPhone 4, which is 1/4 the size, has almost the same resolution as it, right?

Last edited by Winston_Churchill (2010-07-22 10:31:18)

2010-07-22 10:31:06
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6852|SE London

Ryan wrote:

@Winston, the flash has been an ongoing issue for the touch, iPhone and the iPad. They are trying to work on it, but it is a bit of a pain since a lot of websites use flash.

In terms of HD and widescreen, it does do widescreen and fullscreen, but unfortunately has the 4:3 aspect ratio. I still think video looks great. If I wanna watch HD, i'll watch my HDTV, this does just fine for watching YouTube and movies as well. I put saving private Ryan on here and it looks decent.
Of course it does. Because what matters is not so much the overall resolution, but the pixel density. It has a high pixel density, so images look good on it.

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Its just a total waste to put a beautiful IPS panel in there but then have it be low resolution and 4:3.  You realize that the iPhone 4, which is 1/4 the size, has almost the same resolution as it, right?
Which says far more about the incredible pixel density of the iPhone 4 than anything else. Compare the overall pixel density to your average HD display and it comes out on top.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2010-07-22 10:33:54)

2010-07-22 10:36:28
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6741

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:


CDs, SD cards, DVDs, Bluray etc.
Ah, you mean removable media.

No, not really - unless you count cameras.
So, going back you Uzi's bit about it being like a netbook, it's really nothing like a netbook at all and goes back to being a big iPhone without the phone?
what netbooks can do CD/SD/DVD/BluRay?

the mini 'handheld computer device' ones can't... things like EE PC's
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2010-07-22 10:36:35
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7009|Toronto | Canada

Bertster7 wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Its just a total waste to put a beautiful IPS panel in there but then have it be low resolution and 4:3.  You realize that the iPhone 4, which is 1/4 the size, has almost the same resolution as it, right?
Which says far more about the incredible pixel density of the iPhone 4 than anything else. Compare the overall pixel density to your average HD display and it comes out on top.
A monitor doesnt need to be as high, you're viewing images from much further away.  The pixel density of the iPhone 4 is 3 times what the iPad's is.  Its perfectly reasonable to think that they could have put a much better screen on the iPad.
2010-07-22 10:38:20
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6741
at the cost of... battery-life?
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2010-07-22 10:38:40
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6852|SE London

Uzique wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Ah, you mean removable media.

No, not really - unless you count cameras.
So, going back you Uzi's bit about it being like a netbook, it's really nothing like a netbook at all and goes back to being a big iPhone without the phone?
what netbooks can do CD/SD/DVD/BluRay?

the mini 'handheld computer device' ones can't... things like EE PC's
Most can.

Uzique wrote:

at the cost of... battery-life?
Not significantly. At cost of, well, cost. It would have made it ludicrously expensive. Having a higher pixel density than that for a screen that size would be madness.

Anyone who says otherwise is deluded.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2010-07-22 10:40:02)

2010-07-22 10:40:30
unnamednewbie13
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2010-07-22 10:42:27
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6852|SE London

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Its just a total waste to put a beautiful IPS panel in there but then have it be low resolution and 4:3.  You realize that the iPhone 4, which is 1/4 the size, has almost the same resolution as it, right?
Which says far more about the incredible pixel density of the iPhone 4 than anything else. Compare the overall pixel density to your average HD display and it comes out on top.
A monitor doesnt need to be as high, you're viewing images from much further away.  The pixel density of the iPhone 4 is 3 times what the iPad's is.  Its perfectly reasonable to think that they could have put a much better screen on the iPad.
The iPad is used at a comparable distance to a laptop display.

The very best laptops have pixels densities that are similar to that of the iPad. I struggle to think of a device with a higher pixel density that has a screen this large.
2010-07-22 10:46:33
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6955|United States of America
I'm perhaps the least knowledgeable about any Apple product, but how exactly do you use an iPad? It's flat, if I'm not mistaken, which would suggest you would have a hard time using it at the usual angle a monitor or netbook screen is at. The only concievable way I could see to use it would be on your lap or tabletop with you looking down, which I imagine is incredibly uncomfortable for the neck. As I said before I know nothing about this device, but the mechanics seem perplexing to me.
2010-07-22 10:48:28
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6852|SE London

DesertFox- wrote:

I'm perhaps the least knowledgeable about any Apple product, but how exactly do you use an iPad? It's flat, if I'm not mistaken, which would suggest you would have a hard time using it at the usual angle a monitor or netbook screen is at. The only concievable way I could see to use it would be on your lap or tabletop with you looking down, which I imagine is incredibly uncomfortable for the neck. As I said before I know nothing about this device, but the mechanics seem perplexing to me.
Is reading a book incredibly uncomfortable?

It's quite similar.
2010-07-22 10:50:16
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7009|Toronto | Canada

Bertster7 wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Which says far more about the incredible pixel density of the iPhone 4 than anything else. Compare the overall pixel density to your average HD display and it comes out on top.
A monitor doesnt need to be as high, you're viewing images from much further away.  The pixel density of the iPhone 4 is 3 times what the iPad's is.  Its perfectly reasonable to think that they could have put a much better screen on the iPad.
The iPad is used at a comparable distance to a laptop display.

The very best laptops have pixels densities that are similar to that of the iPad. I struggle to think of a device with a higher pixel density that has a screen this large.
Laptops usually have 15" screens though, not 9".  And I view mine from much further away than I hold the iPad.  When its significantly smaller than laptops and held closer (for most people) it should have a higher pixel density.  And they shouldnt advertise HD.

I dont hate the iPads, they have some fantastic uses - my uncle uses his to control the lights, security system, wireless multi-room speakers and TV remotes and it works flawlessly and beautifully.  However, they have some pretty big flaws.
2010-07-22 10:57:07
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6890|Mhz

Uzique wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Ah, you mean removable media.

No, not really - unless you count cameras.
So, going back you Uzi's bit about it being like a netbook, it's really nothing like a netbook at all and goes back to being a big iPhone without the phone?
what netbooks can do CD/SD/DVD/BluRay?

the mini 'handheld computer device' ones can't... things like EE PC's
Most can read mem cards, all can read flash drives, as for dvds etc, add on a £20 usb dvd drive, bluray is more but also useless on such a small screen.  I can see it being nice to have for films on a long trip, the screen is very good (if shiney) but, other than that it get's pretty badly outclassed by some very mediocre gear.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2010-07-22 10:58:26)

2010-07-22 10:59:31
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7113|Alberta, Canada

You hold it or put it on your lap. IMO it's very ergonomic and easy to use.

As far as typing goes, Winston said it would slide around. Go and buy a cheap silicone case and that would prevent it from sliding.

And the screen is way better than the iPod touch/iPhone. More space, not cramped, easier to navigate. Everything is crisp and clear too, due to the high pixel density others were talking about.

Edit: isn't flash nearly extinct anyways? Html5 is the newest thing, so I think apple will try and implement that into the iPad and iPhone 4.

Last edited by Ryan (2010-07-22 11:00:40)

2010-07-22 10:59:48
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6852|SE London

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:


A monitor doesnt need to be as high, you're viewing images from much further away.  The pixel density of the iPhone 4 is 3 times what the iPad's is.  Its perfectly reasonable to think that they could have put a much better screen on the iPad.
The iPad is used at a comparable distance to a laptop display.

The very best laptops have pixels densities that are similar to that of the iPad. I struggle to think of a device with a higher pixel density that has a screen this large.
Laptops usually have 15" screens though, not 9".  And I view mine from much further away than I hold the iPad.  When its significantly smaller than laptops and held closer (for most people) it should have a higher pixel density.  And they shouldnt advertise HD.
They don't advertise it as being HD. The closest they come is saying you can use it to watch HD films, which you can (since it can playback H.264 720p content - so that's entirely fair and accurate to claim) and due to the sharpness of the display, they look better than on most laptops.

Having more pixels would cost more money. They're already stupidly priced for what they are.

Winston_Churchill wrote:

I dont hate the iPads, they have some fantastic uses - my uncle uses his to control the lights, security system, wireless multi-room speakers and TV remotes and it works flawlessly and beautifully.  However, they have some pretty big flaws.
They certainly do have flaws. The biggest one being that they're pretty pointless. You can put them to great use though and I really don't think the display is one of its weak points.

 

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