My random TF2 videos

2010-07-28 12:00:03

#26

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5996|Catherine Black

Yeah, you'll find encoding and reencoding kinda fucks with quality quite a lot. I'd recommend using the "Startmovie TGA" command from the console of TF2, and if I understand it correctly, it works like avi_demo on CoD games, just takes lots of screenshots (don't know if you can specify the FPS like you can in CoD), which you can then stitch together in VDub (I recommend outputting to uncompressed AVI) and then you should edit it in your editor of choice (I'd recommend Sony Vegas) and then output as WMV, I find that works quite well with Youtube.

There are limits to what you should do with editing, like Zeek said, lots of effects and flashy transitions are kinda a turn off imo. Keep it simple, with popular music, well-sync'd, and subtle effects, that don't detract from the actual footage.

2010-07-28 12:06:35

#27

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6678

sorry if i seemed a little over-flameful...

ive spent years watching embarrassingly bad low-skillers over-dress crap clips with a month's worth of adobe premier tutorials and the most annoying, cliche music imaginable. not to say your videos are particularly bad examples of this, but i just have little patience. between spending years in FPS 'high skill' communities, where everybody who is anyone has a 2 hour 35 minute video to their name in order to stroke their ego, wonderfully soundtracked to happy-hardcore, and then going to play world of warcraft hardcore for 3 years, in which everybody who is anyone AGAIN has a 4 hour marathon-video to their name complete with 4 hours of LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR on loop...

shit videos just irk me. some of the most popular/highly-rated fps videos almost have no editing. even fragga's tf2 clips have more views than most overcooked pro-productions. no music, no effects. the skill speaks for itself. just an example. dont polish an ugly turd.

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2010-07-28 12:32:19

#28

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

Maybe I'm trying too hard to copy CoD4-type editing.

I've usually been more impressed (editing wise....I'm not sure if "impressive CoD4 footage" is possible) by movies like Katha's work.

2010-07-28 12:38:59

#29

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6678

cod4's community-editing compensated for the fact there was fuck-all skill and flair in the game.

cod4 scene was full of ego-strokers with no substance. 14 year olds playing their first fps. boring game, boring videos.

tfc / tf2 is decidedly different. if you're not playing well, it shows, and no amount of video trickery is going to hide that.

for example, i just went back and watched my old team's TFC video. it was in like 120p, the quality-source was awful and the music was cringeworthy. but i enjoyed the video immensely because of the clips. nowadays anyone can pirate adobe premier and slap some shitty dance music to some even shittier footage. doesn't matter whether it's 1080p and covered in the latest layers of transition effects or not.

Last edited by Uzique (2010-07-28 12:42:30)

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2010-07-28 13:14:19

#30

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

Meh, if I wanted to watch something purely for the skill involved, I'd rather watch a demo.

I'd prefer to watch a movie with lots of (good) editing and "meh" skill over a collection of clips of "amazing" skill pasted together with Pendulum thrown on top.

Last edited by DefCon-17 (2010-07-28 13:15:14)

2010-07-28 13:39:32

#31

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6678

... and your choice in music and lyrics was any better?

a frag video is meant to be a showcase of YOU, not a showcase of what you learned in film-school.

Last edited by Uzique (2010-07-28 13:39:52)

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2010-07-28 16:14:02

#32

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

It was in my opinion, and that's mostly what I care about.

..and I wouldn't call a 22 second clip a "frag video".

Either way, I don't plan on making video editing my career, so it doesn't really matter.

2010-08-02 01:18:04

#33

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

NEW ONE HURRAH.

2010-08-11 09:04:48

#34

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5996|Catherine Black

Proppa motion tracking, nice.

2010-08-11 10:44:48

#35

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

Frame by frame editing.
The After Effects tracking never works for me, so I always have to do it manually.

New channel for my TF2 (and maybe other) edits:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ShearFilms

Also, anyone know what a good codec is for editing? I'm trying to move away from Fraps, but the ridiculous amount of problems I'm running into with Source Recorder is making me rage.

2010-08-11 10:46:32

#36

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5996|Catherine Black

Frame by Frame? Fuck that.

2010-08-11 13:04:50

#37

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6678

hey defcon just a tip...

focus on making longer edits, cohesive pieces, 'concepts'... perhaps consider at least even the length of one song/soundtrack.

fragga pretty much has the market on selectively-edited-soldier-airshots locked down

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2010-08-11 13:48:39

#38

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

Yeah but they're just clips thrown together with music over top.

I'll make a full length team vid once my team plays in a league (TWL maybe).
Then I can feel all special and state "LEAGUE MATCHES ONLY!!11" in the description.
(And leave the div4 part out.)

2010-08-11 14:15:15

#39

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5996|Catherine Black

What song is that btw?

2010-08-11 14:20:28

#40

Jestar: Shifty's Home Number: 02 9662 8432; +373|6949

Use source recorder, then use wegame recorder imo defcon

2010-08-11 14:49:03

#41

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6678

DefCon-17 wrote:
Yeah but they're just clips thrown together with music over top.

I'll make a full length team vid once my team plays in a league (TWL maybe).
Then I can feel all special and state "LEAGUE MATCHES ONLY!!11" in the description.
(And leave the div4 part out.)

and the twl part

the point is that fragga is already doing the one-clip video uploads... with a variety of classes... and showing all the skill there is to be shown

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2010-08-11 16:17:56

#42

Mutantbear: Semi Constructive Criticism; +1,431|6172|London, England

Good editing

Terrible content

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2010-08-11 16:25:12

#43

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

Song in the latest vid is Android Porn by Kraddy.

I've always used Fraps, but in the one I'm working on now I used Source Recorder to record .tgas, then put them together in VDub with UT Video codec.

Uzique wrote:
DefCon-17 wrote:
Yeah but they're just clips thrown together with music over top.

I'll make a full length team vid once my team plays in a league (TWL maybe).
Then I can feel all special and state "LEAGUE MATCHES ONLY!!11" in the description.
(And leave the div4 part out.)
and the twl part

the point is that fragga is already doing the one-clip video uploads... with a variety of classes... and showing all the skill there is to be shown

Err, there are plenty of people who do 1 clip edits.

The only problem is...most of them seem to be MW2 clips now with footage worse than mine.

2010-08-13 10:08:44

#44

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6678

here you go defcon, meet the etf2l community

http://www.pldx.com/movie/1189/Ghostwriters/

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2010-08-13 11:25:53

#45

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

Uzique wrote:
here you go defcon, meet the etf2l community

http://www.pldx.com/movie/1189/Ghostwriters/

Submitted by: Mats 3 months ago

2010-08-13 12:43:23

#46

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6678

it's an example of a decent movie... who said it's brand new? why does it need to be?

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2010-08-13 13:42:21

#47

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

Just saying. I watch PLDX like a hawk.

I've already watched Ghostwriters multiple times.

..and isn't it a little hypocritical to link me a video that contains more editing in 5 seconds than all my clips put together?

2010-08-13 16:09:48

#48

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6678

'don't overdress a turd'

etf2l players > you x100.

editing to highlight skill > editing to make up for lack of

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2010-08-13 16:27:38

#49

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6364|Vancouver | Canada

'it's fucking obnoxious, annoying, and way over-done. editing is supposed to be, as you said, "subtle".'

2010-08-13 16:49:06

#50

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6678

my point was that you adding all that shit to a crappy air-kill was obnoxious.

in light of the impressiveness of the shots in that video, the production/editing methods are subtle. you're not going 'wow' at the FX

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