How do you measure intelligence?

2010-06-24 07:04:18

#1

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5871

In DST I see plenty of people calling public figures intelligent, smart or dumb, and stupid. After Spark posted about how the 95 year old scientist who predictes we will all be dead in a 100 years is smart I started to wonder how do you measure intelligence?

So without an IQ test how would you measure a persons intelligence? After that one astronaut went cross country in a diaper to kidnap I'm a little skeptical about any sort of intelligence measure since it seems that people who are otherwise considered to be smart, brilliant, etc. are capable of being highly irrational or doing something stupid.

So how do you measure a person's intelligence?

2010-06-24 07:11:10

#2

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6415|North Tonawanda, NY

Macbeth wrote:
In DST I see plenty of people calling public figures intelligent, smart or dumb, and stupid. After Spark posted about how the 95 year old scientist who predictes we will all be dead in a 100 years is smart I started to wonder how do you measure intelligence?

So without an IQ test how would you measure a persons intelligence? After that one astronaut went cross country in a diaper to kidnap I'm a little skeptical about any sort of intelligence measure since it seems that people who are otherwise considered to be smart, brilliant, etc. are capable of being highly irrational or doing something stupid.

So how do you measure a person's intelligence?

A person can be smart and nuts, which explains the astronaut.

It's all about presentation, demeanor, validity of points, how conclusions are reached, etc... At least, this is how I gauge it on a webforum.

2010-06-24 07:19:12

#3

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5463|Sydney

"Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration" - Einstein

To me, intelligence is in part someone's ability to work things out for themselves. Simply cramming one's head full of knowledge doesn't make them intelligent, but it does make them smart. How you apply that information, to me, is intelligence.

2010-06-24 07:22:48

#4

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6753

Jaekus wrote:
"Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration" - Einstein

To me, intelligence is in part someone's ability to work things out for themselves. Simply cramming one's head full of knowledge doesn't make them intelligent, but it does make them smart. How you apply that information, to me, is intelligence.

And to me, genius is measured in not butchering famous quotes.

2010-06-24 07:23:14

#5

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6960|Canberra, AUS

Macbeth wrote:
In DST I see plenty of people calling public figures intelligent, smart or dumb, and stupid. After Spark posted about how the 95 year old scientist who predictes we will all be dead in a 100 years is smart I started to wonder how do you measure intelligence?

So without an IQ test how would you measure a persons intelligence? After that one astronaut went cross country in a diaper to kidnap I'm a little skeptical about any sort of intelligence measure since it seems that people who are otherwise considered to be smart, brilliant, etc. are capable of being highly irrational or doing something stupid.

So how do you measure a person's intelligence?

The guy also helped find a smallpox cure. I would say he's "smart".

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-06-24 07:36:01

#6

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5463|Sydney

Doctor Strangelove wrote:
Jaekus wrote:
"Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration" - Einstein

To me, intelligence is in part someone's ability to work things out for themselves. Simply cramming one's head full of knowledge doesn't make them intelligent, but it does make them smart. How you apply that information, to me, is intelligence.
And to me, genius is measured in not butchering famous quotes.

You've got a pretty weird perception of genius if that's how you measure it.

2010-06-24 07:41:50

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eskimo_sammyjoe: Did someone say tea?; +112|6520|S.A. Australia

A lot of people perceived to be 'intelligent' often lack in other areas such as social connection and emotional conflict resolution. In my experience, smart people tend to excel at most things easier than others, while intelligent people often have to work harder to achieve, but still achieve in the end.

Serious Flex

2010-06-24 08:57:20

#8

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6827|Texas - Bigger than France

Macbeth wrote:
So how do you measure a person's intelligence?

Usually from the base to the tip. And that's the base, not the balls.

2010-06-24 09:06:09

#9

jord: Member; +2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.

By talking to them...

2010-06-24 09:39:27

#10

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6804|Πάϊ

There's all kinds of intelligence. It depends on the field.

_ƒ³

2010-06-24 09:45:55

#11

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6981|NJ

Macbeth wrote:
In DST I see plenty of people calling public figures intelligent, smart or dumb, and stupid. After Spark posted about how the 95 year old scientist who predictes we will all be dead in a 100 years is smart I started to wonder how do you measure intelligence?

So without an IQ test how would you measure a persons intelligence? After that one astronaut went cross country in a diaper to kidnap I'm a little skeptical about any sort of intelligence measure since it seems that people who are otherwise considered to be smart, brilliant, etc. are capable of being highly irrational or doing something stupid.

So how do you measure a person's intelligence?

Ok this was really intellegent, if he didn't wear the diaper he'd have to pull over and wouldn't get to his destination as fast.

2010-06-24 09:47:22

#12

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,743|7022|Cinncinatti

cpt.fass1 wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
In DST I see plenty of people calling public figures intelligent, smart or dumb, and stupid. After Spark posted about how the 95 year old scientist who predictes we will all be dead in a 100 years is smart I started to wonder how do you measure intelligence?

So without an IQ test how would you measure a persons intelligence? After that one astronaut went cross country in a diaper to kidnap I'm a little skeptical about any sort of intelligence measure since it seems that people who are otherwise considered to be smart, brilliant, etc. are capable of being highly irrational or doing something stupid.

So how do you measure a person's intelligence?
Ok this was really intellegent, if he didn't wear the diaper he'd have to pull over and wouldn't get to his destination as fast.

coulda held it. and a couple minutes usually doesnt matter

2010-06-24 10:38:57

#13

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Intelligence is simply the ability to learn. The faster a person is able to grasp a concept, the more intelligence they possess.

As far as it being useful, well it depends on the drive of the individual. Some people use their talents and try to learn everything they can, and other sit mindlessly in front of a TV set for hours a day.

What you are really searching for Macbeth, is wisdom. Practical knowledge based on experience. It is not only more relevant, but infinitely more useful in a leader than pure intelligence.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-06-24 10:40:40

#14

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6981|NJ

JohnG@lt wrote:
Intelligence is simply the ability to learn. The faster a person is able to grasp a concept, the more intelligence they possess.

As far as it being useful, well it depends on the drive of the individual. Some people use their talents and try to learn everything they can, and other sit mindlessly in front of a TV set for hours a day.

What you are really searching for Macbeth, is wisdom. Practical knowledge based on experience. It is not only more relevant, but infinitely more useful in a leader than pure intelligence.

I would say that intelligence is the abilty to explore and to learn. Being able to regurgitate nonsense that you read someone is way less valuable then being about to make up your own nonsense.

2010-06-24 10:41:07

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Phrozenbot: Member; +632|6901|do not disturb

Yes some of the users here with God complexes may be rather intelligent, but what about their wisdom and real life skills.

2010-06-24 11:19:11

#16

13rin: Member; +977|6764

A hispanic woman is more intelligent than an old white guy...

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2010-06-24 11:25:31

#17

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|6246|Places 'n such

JohnG@lt wrote:
Intelligence is simply the ability to learn. The faster a person is able to grasp a concept, the more intelligence they possess.

As far as it being useful, well it depends on the drive of the individual. Some people use their talents and try to learn everything they can, and other sit mindlessly in front of a TV set for hours a day.

What you are really searching for Macbeth, is wisdom. Practical knowledge based on experience. It is not only more relevant, but infinitely more useful in a leader than pure intelligence.

This is exactly how i'd define intelligence. I'd also say that theres different types of intelligence, some people can take to most sports quicker than usual and some people are more academically intelligent.

edit: as for measuring it, i dont think that's possible. IQ tests are the most pointless self promoting things in the world, shortly followed by MENSA.

Last edited by presidentsheep (2010-06-24 11:26:42)

I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.

2010-06-24 12:00:01

#18

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7060|Moscow, Russia

Macbeth wrote:
So how do you measure a person's intelligence?

in gigamacbeths of course.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2010-06-24 12:29:21

#19

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5871

Shahter wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
So how do you measure a person's intelligence?
in gigamacbeths of course.

I just realized that was an insult. I want my karma back

2010-06-24 13:01:21

#20

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6696|'Murka

Ability to apply knowledge, as opposed to simply regurgitating it. Memory =/= intelligence.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2010-06-24 14:40:50

#21

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6804|Πάϊ

FEOS wrote:
Ability to apply knowledge, as opposed to simply regurgitating it. Memory =/= intelligence.

also improvise, conceive new concepts etc

_ƒ³

2010-06-24 14:44:26

#22

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,056|7057|PNW

jord wrote:
By talking to them...

^this, or by intellectual accomplishments.

Tests are useless.

2010-06-24 18:53:37

#23

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6696|'Murka

oug wrote:
FEOS wrote:
Ability to apply knowledge, as opposed to simply regurgitating it. Memory =/= intelligence.
also improvise, conceive new concepts etc

I would lump those in with application of knowledge.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2010-06-24 19:13:43

#24

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

JohnG@lt wrote:
Intelligence is simply the ability to learn. The faster a person is able to grasp a concept, the more intelligence they possess.

Depends what you mean by 'learn'.

Intelligence is variously speed of thought, application of knowledge, ability to adapt knowledge to new situations, ability to hold multiple pieces of information in the mind and apply them to the situation.

Fuck Israel

2010-06-24 19:36:15

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ATG: Banned; +5,233|6814|Global Command

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