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2010-06-23 17:35:52
Jay
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Phrozenbot wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:


I'm no Bible thumper, but no one knows the day or the hour so it is rather pointless to speculate.

OT:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World … istory.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Popul … _world.PNG
My comment wasn't a dig at Christians, just at the human tendency to seek confirmation for ones beliefs. Whether it be religious, scientific or whatever else, even if it means their own demise, they want to know that what they've preached is not false.

For example, this current oil spill has had anti-oil advocates coming out of the woodwork to say 'I told you so' even though the 'I told you so' means the destruction of the environment in the Gulf To people like this, being proved right is more important than the effort to clean up the mess. They feel vindicated.

As with all wild opinions of prognosticators, eventually one of them will be correct. He'll conveniently ignore the 1,000,000 times he was wrong in the past.
I see.

The fact of the matter is, population growth is slowing down, and has stabilized is most modern nations, if not decreased. Developing nations are at most concern, and if there is some truth to worries over excessive population growth, they will suffer the most.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Countriesbyfertilityrate.svg/800px-Countriesbyfertilityrate.svg.png

From bottom to top it's 0-1, 1-2, 2-3 etc.

So, an Aussie whining about overpopulation killing the planet is pretty lolz since his own country has below-replacement-level fertility.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-06-23 17:36:58
Cybargs
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


My comment wasn't a dig at Christians, just at the human tendency to seek confirmation for ones beliefs. Whether it be religious, scientific or whatever else, even if it means their own demise, they want to know that what they've preached is not false.

For example, this current oil spill has had anti-oil advocates coming out of the woodwork to say 'I told you so' even though the 'I told you so' means the destruction of the environment in the Gulf To people like this, being proved right is more important than the effort to clean up the mess. They feel vindicated.

As with all wild opinions of prognosticators, eventually one of them will be correct. He'll conveniently ignore the 1,000,000 times he was wrong in the past.
I see.

The fact of the matter is, population growth is slowing down, and has stabilized is most modern nations, if not decreased. Developing nations are at most concern, and if there is some truth to worries over excessive population growth, they will suffer the most.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … te.svg.png

From bottom to top it's 0-1, 1-2, 2-3 etc.

So, an Aussie whining about overpopulation killing the planet is pretty lolz since his own country has below-replacement-level fertility.
Well remember Australia is being swamped by Asians.
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2010-06-23 17:39:11
Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:


I see.

The fact of the matter is, population growth is slowing down, and has stabilized is most modern nations, if not decreased. Developing nations are at most concern, and if there is some truth to worries over excessive population growth, they will suffer the most.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … te.svg.png

From bottom to top it's 0-1, 1-2, 2-3 etc.

So, an Aussie whining about overpopulation killing the planet is pretty lolz since his own country has below-replacement-level fertility.
Well remember Australia is being swamped by Asians.
Asian countries aren't exactly at the pinnacle of fertility rates either. The only 'problem' is Africa and they have such a ridiculously high mortality rate that it balances out anyway.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-06-23 17:43:03
13urnzz
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100 years? il'l take it.

so someones gonna come in call me swine, but i don't have kids- i'm all for legacy ,i recycle and put the shit in the blue tote, but convince [i]ME[i/] i should give ashit if someone pushes the redbutton tommorroww. no ,seriously- i'm may be older than alot you fucks onthis forum, but tell me i should GIVE A RATS ASS
2010-06-23 17:43:11
Phrozenbot
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JohnG@lt wrote:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … te.svg.png

From bottom to top it's 0-1, 1-2, 2-3 etc.

So, an Aussie whining about overpopulation killing the planet is pretty lolz since his own country has below-replacement-level fertility.
Aussies must not like procreating that much.
2010-06-23 17:47:23
Cybargs
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … te.svg.png

From bottom to top it's 0-1, 1-2, 2-3 etc.

So, an Aussie whining about overpopulation killing the planet is pretty lolz since his own country has below-replacement-level fertility.
Well remember Australia is being swamped by Asians.
Asian countries aren't exactly at the pinnacle of fertility rates either. The only 'problem' is Africa and they have such a ridiculously high mortality rate that it balances out anyway.
Yeah 2 billion people are in China and India. And they're coming to make yellow Australia.
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2010-06-23 18:02:15
ghettoperson
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100 years? I'm quite sure I won't be able to live the life that I want by the time I'm 70, so I only need half that.
2010-06-23 20:57:02
Turquoise
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

http://www.physorg.com/news196489543.html

Fenner, who is emeritus professor of microbiology at the Australian National University (ANU) in Canberra, said homo sapiens will not be able to survive the population explosion and “unbridled consumption,” and will become extinct, perhaps within a century
Stop getting my hopes up....
2010-06-23 23:04:14
Fynnegin
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ghettoperson wrote:

100 years? I'm quite sure I won't be able to live the life that I want by the time I'm 70, so I only need half that.
I doubt I'll live to see 40, so this ain't much concern to me either.

Besides, all of the same shit has been spouted by self-proclaimed "scientists" for ages, and we're still around.
2010-06-23 23:09:18
Spark
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Fynnegin wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

100 years? I'm quite sure I won't be able to live the life that I want by the time I'm 70, so I only need half that.
I doubt I'll live to see 40, so this ain't much concern to me either.

Besides, all of the same shit has been spouted by self-proclaimed "scientists" for ages, and we're still around.
I've met the man. He's fantastically smart and his work on rabbit population control is hugely important to the country.

Give the bloke a break FFS, he's 95!

Interesting scale on the graph, though... but he is 95.

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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-06-23 23:13:06
Fynnegin
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Oh, I wasn't saying he isn't intelligent or whatever, just that it's all been said.
2010-06-23 23:15:44
Spark
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … te.svg.png

From bottom to top it's 0-1, 1-2, 2-3 etc.

So, an Aussie whining about overpopulation killing the planet is pretty lolz since his own country has below-replacement-level fertility.
Well remember Australia is being swamped by Asians.
Asian countries aren't exactly at the pinnacle of fertility rates either. The only 'problem' is Africa and they have such a ridiculously high mortality rate that it balances out anyway.
No, really, we have a ludicrous segment of the population which are "OMG ASIAN IMMIGRANTS" and then complain when they, quote "take our jobs" - earn them yourself by working you lazy cuntbags.

However, in terms of population growth we are growing, predictions vary from 35-45(!) million within a few decades.

Anyway. I can't remember the models but I think most of them agree on a world population levelling off at 9 billion in the next few decades.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-06-24 04:45:03
Cybargs
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Spark wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


Well remember Australia is being swamped by Asians.
Asian countries aren't exactly at the pinnacle of fertility rates either. The only 'problem' is Africa and they have such a ridiculously high mortality rate that it balances out anyway.
No, really, we have a ludicrous segment of the population which are "OMG ASIAN IMMIGRANTS" and then complain when they, quote "take our jobs" - earn them yourself by working you lazy cuntbags.

However, in terms of population growth we are growing, predictions vary from 35-45(!) million within a few decades.

Anyway. I can't remember the models but I think most of them agree on a world population levelling off at 9 billion in the next few decades.
US had a much larger population spike and they turned out fine tbh.
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2010-06-24 05:00:42
Spark
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Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


Asian countries aren't exactly at the pinnacle of fertility rates either. The only 'problem' is Africa and they have such a ridiculously high mortality rate that it balances out anyway.
No, really, we have a ludicrous segment of the population which are "OMG ASIAN IMMIGRANTS" and then complain when they, quote "take our jobs" - earn them yourself by working you lazy cuntbags.

However, in terms of population growth we are growing, predictions vary from 35-45(!) million within a few decades.

Anyway. I can't remember the models but I think most of them agree on a world population levelling off at 9 billion in the next few decades.
US had a much larger population spike and they turned out fine tbh.
I know. I'm just saying that JG's implication that we're gonna struggle to grow our population isn't true.

Good time to get into the housing market here TBH, 'cause prices are gonna go through the roof.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-06-24 05:03:49
Cybargs
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Spark wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:


No, really, we have a ludicrous segment of the population which are "OMG ASIAN IMMIGRANTS" and then complain when they, quote "take our jobs" - earn them yourself by working you lazy cuntbags.

However, in terms of population growth we are growing, predictions vary from 35-45(!) million within a few decades.

Anyway. I can't remember the models but I think most of them agree on a world population levelling off at 9 billion in the next few decades.
US had a much larger population spike and they turned out fine tbh.
I know. I'm just saying that JG's implication that we're gonna struggle to grow our population isn't true.

Good time to get into the housing market here TBH, 'cause prices are gonna go through the roof.
Housing market in Aus is a huge bubble right now... IMF estimates are around 40-50% overvalued =/ Mom was an idiot not buying a house when we lived there ffs. Prices raised more than double in 6 years.
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2010-06-24 05:04:17
Mekstizzle
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Plenty of space and farmland out there for big populations, we're just not using it enough. Push comes to shove we can always turn the Sahara desert and such places into farmland they already do that in lots of the desert countries, just that it requires lots of energy. Once we sort out the energy problem its easy sailing from there regarding food/farmland and fresh water.
2010-06-24 05:05:52
Cybargs
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Mekstizzle wrote:

Plenty of space and farmland out there for big populations, we're just not using it enough. Push comes to shove we can always turn the Sahara desert and such places into farmland they already do that in lots of the desert countries, just that it requires lots of energy. Once we sort out the energy problem its easy sailing from there regarding food/farmland and fresh water.
Food and farmland isn't a huge issue today with agricultural technology... Look at how fat the Americans are and the Chinese aren't far behind. If anything we have more than enough food
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2010-06-24 05:16:01
Kez
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its okay in 100 years we'll have people living in space
2010-06-24 05:51:29
Spark
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Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


US had a much larger population spike and they turned out fine tbh.
I know. I'm just saying that JG's implication that we're gonna struggle to grow our population isn't true.

Good time to get into the housing market here TBH, 'cause prices are gonna go through the roof.
Housing market in Aus is a huge bubble right now... IMF estimates are around 40-50% overvalued =/ Mom was an idiot not buying a house when we lived there ffs. Prices raised more than double in 6 years.
Because of the population thingy they're going to keep going in that direction. The thing is fast resembling a giant pyramid scheme. I wonder how long until it collapses...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-06-24 05:57:32
PureBeef
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It's true, there have been a number of articles and studies on this. We cannot sustain an ever growing population, this is the real danger, not global warming. So mass starvation, disease etc will cull a lot of us. It will sort itself out, it just wont be pretty.
2010-06-24 05:58:58
Cybargs
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Spark wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:


I know. I'm just saying that JG's implication that we're gonna struggle to grow our population isn't true.

Good time to get into the housing market here TBH, 'cause prices are gonna go through the roof.
Housing market in Aus is a huge bubble right now... IMF estimates are around 40-50% overvalued =/ Mom was an idiot not buying a house when we lived there ffs. Prices raised more than double in 6 years.
Because of the population thingy they're going to keep going in that direction. The thing is fast resembling a giant pyramid scheme. I wonder how long until it collapses...
Not just a rising population, but a huge immigration of rich Chinese immigrants bringing in a lot of fucking cash too.
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2010-06-24 06:01:21
Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


Housing market in Aus is a huge bubble right now... IMF estimates are around 40-50% overvalued =/ Mom was an idiot not buying a house when we lived there ffs. Prices raised more than double in 6 years.
Because of the population thingy they're going to keep going in that direction. The thing is fast resembling a giant pyramid scheme. I wonder how long until it collapses...
Not just a rising population, but a huge immigration of rich Chinese immigrants bringing in a lot of fucking cash too.
My area has been inundated by Asians. If I drive through Flushing most of the signs are written in Chinese or Korean.

The only thing I bitch about in regards to Asians is that they can't fucking drive. Most of them seem to bust their ass and open up small businesses all over the place. They're actually taking advantage of what America has to offer so I commend them
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-06-24 06:04:40
Cybargs
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:


Because of the population thingy they're going to keep going in that direction. The thing is fast resembling a giant pyramid scheme. I wonder how long until it collapses...
Not just a rising population, but a huge immigration of rich Chinese immigrants bringing in a lot of fucking cash too.
My area has been inundated by Asians. If I drive through Flushing most of the signs are written in Chinese or Korean.

The only thing I bitch about in regards to Asians is that they can't fucking drive. Most of them seem to bust their ass and open up small businesses all over the place. They're actually taking advantage of what America has to offer so I commend them
You think flushing is bad? Try Irvine Just don't eat the food, shit's bad for your system brah. It's like Mexican food, it's only good if you're used to the parasites. Business is in every Chinaman's blood lol. Shit everyone I know at school their parents are either a doctor or a businessman. Mostly the latter.
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2010-06-24 06:26:20
Spark
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:

Because of the population thingy they're going to keep going in that direction. The thing is fast resembling a giant pyramid scheme. I wonder how long until it collapses...
Not just a rising population, but a huge immigration of rich Chinese immigrants bringing in a lot of fucking cash too.
My area has been inundated by Asians. If I drive through Flushing most of the signs are written in Chinese or Korean.

The only thing I bitch about in regards to Asians is that they can't fucking drive. Most of them seem to bust their ass and open up small businesses all over the place. They're actually taking advantage of what America has to offer so I commend them
Pattern here as well.

PureBeef wrote:

It's true, there have been a number of articles and studies on this. We cannot sustain an ever growing population, this is the real danger, not global warming. So mass starvation, disease etc will cull a lot of us. It will sort itself out, it just wont be pretty.
You speak of them as if they're separate issues...

Last edited by Spark (2010-06-24 06:27:01)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2010-06-24 07:46:20
jord
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I'll be dead in half that, so I'm more worried about the next 100 days...

 

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