Killer, 13, sent to juvenile detention until age 21

2010-06-17 21:55:20

#1

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5871

A Michigan judge ordered a 13-year-old boy convicted of murdering a woman during a robbery to remain in juvenile detention until he turns 21.

Wayne County Judge Sheila Gibson gave Demarco Harris a blended sentence. The Detroit teen, who committed the crime when he was 12, will be re-evaluated by the court after his 21st birthday.

Depending on the court's findings, Harris will either be released from custody or sentenced as an adult to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

If Harris is convicted of a felony while he is in custody, he will automatically be sentenced as an adult to life in prison, the judge said.

Harris was found guilty earlier this year of murdering Trisha Babcock during a robbery. The 24-year-old woman was shot to death inside her parked car in Detroit on August 1, 2009.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/17/mic … index.html
So should he be given a second chance to live a full and productive life at the age of 21 like he may be able to despite blowing a womans head off?

Just imagine this girl, actual photo of the victim, in her car with her skull torn open by a bullet because of this kid.

https://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/trisha-babcock.jpg

IMHO, the kid should be executed. I don't care if he's only 13 either.

2010-06-17 21:57:33

#2

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6940

Kids like these don't learn any lessons while in prison. He's just gonna come out with more hate and issues/problems, and kill at least 2 or 3 more, guarantee it.

2010-06-17 22:01:45

#3

mikkel: Member; +383|6886

Macbeth wrote:
IMHO, the kid should be executed. I don't care if he's only 13 either.

I'm all for executing children. We have to set an example here and remind the world that this is one classy legal system.

2010-06-17 22:40:36

#4

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,056|7057|PNW

mikkel wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
IMHO, the kid should be executed. I don't care if he's only 13 either.
I'm all for executing children. We have to set an example here and remind the world that this is one classy legal system.

Releasing hordes of sex offenders into family suburbs is 100% classy, amirite?

2010-06-18 00:39:47

#5

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

Kids do stupid stuff without real understanding and therefore lack of provable intent.

Put him in prison until he's 21.

String up the guy who gave/sold/loaned him the gun.

Fuck Israel

2010-06-18 00:48:17

#6

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,056|7057|PNW

The only problem is, a lot of kids like that are repeat offenders. Once you go and do something like murder, it isn't exactly like quitting the drug biz. Out of 'mercy,' we thrust too many of these people back into society, and more innocents inevitably pay.

2010-06-18 00:54:26

#7

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

Realistically, going to prison at 13 its improbable he'll ever be any use for anything.

Front line infantry!

Fuck Israel

2010-06-18 01:12:20

#8

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,056|7057|PNW

Dilbert_X wrote:
Realistically, going to prison at 13 its improbable he'll ever be any use for anything.

Front line infantry!

Yeah, just the guy I want at my back. Someone who blew a lady's head off when he was 13.

2010-06-18 01:41:22

#9

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

I said FRONT line.

Fuck Israel

2010-06-18 04:17:17

#10

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7001

Dilbert_X wrote:
I said FRONT line.

Cannon Fodder.

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2010-06-18 07:26:44

#11

LostFate: Same shit, Different Arsehole; +95|6770|England

Cybargs wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
I said FRONT line.
Cannon Fodder.

Even though this guy murdered an innocent girl and is therefore scum, i do believe that everyone deserves some sort of second chance to try and redeem themselves hopefully this guy takes his sentence an realizes that he needs to sort his life out rather then going back to old ways.

2010-06-18 07:33:47

#12

pace51: Boom?; +194|5458|Markham, Ontario

mtb0minime wrote:
Kids like these don't learn any lessons while in prison. He's just gonna come out with more hate and issues/problems, and kill at least 2 or 3 more, guarantee it.

They should put him in a maximum security youth detention facility, and then trandsfer him to an adult prison. They shouldn't release him at 21, they should wait till' he's muh older, and then put him on parole. With very constant monitoring. There may be a way to fix this kid, but what he did, is really terrible. He deserves life imprisonment, but maybe he can be fixed. Not likely, but maybe. Aa life in jail will just increase his resentment, if he''s in jail for too long, he'll just get more resentful.

2010-06-18 07:34:53

#13

pace51: Boom?; +194|5458|Markham, Ontario

LostFate wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
I said FRONT line.
Cannon Fodder.
Even though this guy murdered an innocent girl and is therefore scum, i do believe that everyone deserves some sort of second chance to try and redeem themselves hopefully this guy takes his sentence an realizes that he needs to sort his life out rather then going back to old ways.

Yeah, I kinda like your point of view. Although I like to think people will reform and should be treated nicely, that's a lot of bull. Hopefully prison will sort him out.

2010-06-18 08:28:45

#14

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5987|College Park, MD

I say throw him in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. His mind will rot within a few months and be left practically a vegetable.

I hate the criminal "justice" system in this country so much. America: where a kid who tries to help a lost child find her mother gets charged with kidnapping while a murderer will get a chance to go free in a few years.

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2010-06-18 08:41:20

#15

west-phoenix-az: Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does; +632|6674

Execute him. 12 year olds know you can't go around shooting people. He knew damn well what he was doing and knew he'd probably get a light sentence since he was a minor.

The victim's father called the sentence unfair. "I feel he should definitely spend the rest of his life in prison," Steven Babcockn told CNN. "For him to have a chance or opportunity to be set free when he is 21 is not justice for my daughter."

Babcock said he wanted the judge to set an example. "Just because you're 12, 13, 14 doesn't mean you can murder somebody and be set free when you are 21," he said.

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2010-06-18 08:55:04

#16

Chou: Member; +737|7076

Shot dead in her parked car, yeah that sounds like a panic attack.. not.
Fuck this kid. If I was her father, I'd wish he'd get released when he turns 21.. I'll be waiting in my soundproof basement for that day.

2010-06-18 11:05:10

#17

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,056|7057|PNW

LostFate wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
I said FRONT line.
Cannon Fodder.
Even though this guy murdered an innocent girl and is therefore scum, i do believe that everyone deserves some sort of second chance to try and redeem themselves hopefully this guy takes his sentence an realizes that he needs to sort his life out rather then going back to old ways.

His victim deserves a second chance, so we should...oh, wait. As to using him for cannon fodder, I wouldn't even want to sit next to his ass in a Humvee.

Far too many 'second chances' in this country lethally backfire on innocents.

2010-06-18 11:13:09

#18

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6981|NJ

Welfare child, so nothing is really changing. He honestly needs to repay his debt to society and not with imprisonment, but maybe something that will point him into a use full role.

2010-06-18 11:18:49

#19

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6753

We should just kill everyone.

Problem solved.

2010-06-18 11:21:37

#20

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,056|7057|PNW

cpt.fass1 wrote:
Welfare child, so nothing is really changing. He honestly needs to repay his debt to society and not with imprisonment, but maybe something that will point him into a use full role.

How about a followup-murder completely unrelated to his first? Maybe he can do a kid as she's walking home from school next.

2010-06-18 11:30:02

#21

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6981|NJ

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
cpt.fass1 wrote:
Welfare child, so nothing is really changing. He honestly needs to repay his debt to society and not with imprisonment, but maybe something that will point him into a use full role.
How about a followup-murder completely unrelated to his first? Maybe he can do a kid as she's walking home from school next.

Well with the current system, that's what's going to happen. What we have is a kid who probably has nothing in his life. Then he's going to get locked up under our current system, learn to be a more proficient killer. Then get out and kill people, maybe not get caught, but all on our dollar.

Fuck this piece of trash, maybe we should harvest his organs and give them to someone use full.

The difference between a welfare child and a prisoner is that the welfare child gets longer time to spend in "the yard".

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2010-06-18 11:38:06

#22

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6415|North Tonawanda, NY

west-phoenix-az wrote:
Execute him. 12 year olds know you can't go around shooting people. He knew damn well what he was doing and knew he'd probably get a light sentence since he was a minor.

The victim's father called the sentence unfair. "I feel he should definitely spend the rest of his life in prison," Steven Babcockn told CNN. "For him to have a chance or opportunity to be set free when he is 21 is not justice for my daughter."

Babcock said he wanted the judge to set an example. "Just because you're 12, 13, 14 doesn't mean you can murder somebody and be set free when you are 21," he said.

Short term 'juvenile' sentences for violent teenagers is nothing short of bullshit.

This asshole only got 3.5 to 10 years for shooting a cop in the head. What kind of crap is that?

2010-06-18 15:49:57

#23

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

Chou wrote:
Shot dead in her parked car, yeah that sounds like a panic attack.. not.
Fuck this kid. If I was her father, I'd wish he'd get released when he turns 21.. I'll be waiting in my soundproof basement for that day.

This...

2010-06-18 15:54:18

#24

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

SenorToenails wrote:
west-phoenix-az wrote:
Execute him. 12 year olds know you can't go around shooting people. He knew damn well what he was doing and knew he'd probably get a light sentence since he was a minor.

The victim's father called the sentence unfair. "I feel he should definitely spend the rest of his life in prison," Steven Babcockn told CNN. "For him to have a chance or opportunity to be set free when he is 21 is not justice for my daughter."

Babcock said he wanted the judge to set an example. "Just because you're 12, 13, 14 doesn't mean you can murder somebody and be set free when you are 21," he said.
Short term 'juvenile' sentences for violent teenagers is nothing short of bullshit.

This asshole only got 3.5 to 10 years for shooting a cop in the head. What kind of crap is that?

I think we just need to redefine what constitutes as adult. If you're 15, you know better than to kill someone. By the same token, you're old enough to accept more responsibilities than society currently allows at that age.

The thing is... we seem to understand from a criminal point of view that teens should be judged as adults, so why can't they have at least some of the privileges too? That's what always bothered me about this society.

Instead, what we get are bullshit short sentences for little gangbanger fucks like Tyquan, when they should be either executed or given a life sentence. At the same time, however, 15 year olds should be allowed to drive unsupervised as well -- assuming that they've gotten in enough practice and passed the driver's test before then.

2010-06-18 16:30:33

#25

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|7006|Sydney, Australia

Turquoise wrote:
At the same time, however, 15 year olds should be allowed to drive unsupervised as well -- assuming that they've gotten in enough practice and passed the driver's test before then.

I hope that was sarcastic..

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Cybargs wrote:

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mtb0minime wrote:

LostFate wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

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Cybargs wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

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Chou wrote:

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