Benzin
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+576|6284
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It's only a short trailer of a film, but I think it is a topic that desperately needs to be addressed.
tazz.
oz.
+1,339|6460|Sydney | ♥

governments have and will forever be fucking retarded.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|6609|Graz, Austria
Stuff like this was to be expected actually.
Reminds of the things that the Chinese government did prior to the Summer Olympics in Beijing.
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6804|Πάϊ
Don't blame the sport, blame the government fucking cunts.
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cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6981|NJ
Lots of money spent on this, lots of people actually going to south africa. Hopefully it will pay off in tourism in the long run.

Waaaa look at these wood shanty towns that we had to tear down and displace these people.

In majority of our coutries 2 dollars a day would = death..

Think about all the building and jobs that the world cup had to create in that country.

Last edited by cpt.fass1 (2010-06-14 09:31:10)

Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7060|Moscow, Russia
yeah, yeah, tourism money will sure fix these people, who still in this day and age smoke vulture brains for good luck.

Last edited by Shahter (2010-06-14 09:48:12)

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6981|NJ

Shahter wrote:

yeah, yeah, tourism money will sure fix these people, who still in this day and age smoke vulture brains for good luck.
Don't knock it till you try it. I've won the lottery twice with the help from Vulture brains.

Seriously though, stupid is as stupid does.
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7060|Moscow, Russia

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Shahter wrote:

yeah, yeah, tourism money will sure fix these people, who still in this day and age smoke vulture brains for good luck.
Don't knock it till you try it. I've won the lottery twice with the help from Vulture brains.

Seriously though, stupid is as stupid does.
they aren't stupid, not anymore so than you or me anyway, they simply live in the world of several hundred years ago. money won't fix that.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6934

It's causing me more irritation than good, if that helps.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6756
says the russian that lived in a feudal peasant society 100 years ago

give your rampant racial inferiority tirade a rest
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7060|Moscow, Russia

Uzique wrote:

says the russian that lived in a feudal peasant society 100 years ago

give your rampant racial inferiority tirade a rest
you remember the cost that was paid for elevating those pesants to their current level, right? it sure as hell wasn't money. you want something like that to happen to south africa?
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6756
no, there are better ways to do it -- more gradual ways, too. reform not revolution.

it doesn't justify your "they are just backwards as a people" bullshit. that's just egregiously wrong and intellectually disgraceful to say that.

the government may be useless but this is the apparent trend in post and neo colonial rule. things take time, and sudden changes and revolutions lead to just newer, fascist and conservative (small c) forms of dictatorial rule. russia hardly led the masterclass in making great leaps forward, so you can get off the soapbox.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7060|Moscow, Russia

Uzique wrote:

no, there are better ways to do it -- more gradual ways, too. reform not revolution.
example, please - from feudal to spacecraft in a hundred years with no revolution and bloodshed.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6756
there isn't one because you can't do it in 100 years

are you not getting my point? jesus h. christ...

STOP IMPLYING THAT THE SOUTH AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE SOMEHOW 'INFERIOR' OR 'BACKWARDS'

- your own country is an example of what happens when you try to 'force' freedom and the promotion of liberal values

WOO GO COMRADE STALIN

please think before you post and consider what im actually saying. facepalming here.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7060|Moscow, Russia

Uzique wrote:

there isn't one because you can't do it in 100 years
then fuck off, would you kindly?

Uzique wrote:

are you not getting my point? jesus h. christ...

STOP IMPLYING THAT THE SOUTH AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE SOMEHOW 'INFERIOR' OR 'BACKWARDS'
i didn't. read my previous posts, it's all there.

Uzique wrote:

your own country is an example of what happens when you try to 'force' freedom and the promotion of liberal values

WOO GO COMRADE STALIN

please think before you post and consider what im actually saying. facepalming here.
my own country is an example of how it IS possible to go from serfdom to nuclear weapons in LESS than a hundred years and of what it takes to do so.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6756
your own country is an example of how it is possible and how to achieve the iMPOSSIBLE of ending up worse than south africa

thank fuck south africa didn't commit mass genocide, ethnic cleansing and end up instigating a decade-spanning threat of nuclear war

you don't have much to clap about just because you made it to space and have nukes, jesus christ, that's a scary mentality

i don't care what the short-term effects oft eh world cup are on south africa. my family owns a lot of land there and we have a cultural and social interest in the nation; you cant accuse it of any weaknesses or wrongdoing, especially from your hypocritical perspective. we fucked with africa as a continent and now we have to have the respectable patience and understanding whilst they sort it out for themselves.
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7060|Moscow, Russia

Uzique wrote:

your own country is an example of how it is possible and how to achieve the iMPOSSIBLE of ending up worse than south africa

thank fuck south africa didn't commit mass genocide, ethnic cleansing and end up instigating a decade-spanning threat of nuclear war

you don't have much to clap about just because you made it to space and have nukes, jesus christ, that's a scary mentality
/sigh. okay, keep listening to your media to get your head pushed deeper and deeper up your ass, dude.

Uzique wrote:

i don't care what the short-term effects oft eh world cup are on south africa. my family owns a lot of land there and we have a cultural and social interest in the nation; you cant accuse it of any weaknesses or wrongdoing, especially from your hypocritical perspective. we fucked with africa as a continent and now we have to have the respectable patience and understanding whilst they sort it out for themselves.
that's the point i was making, which you so conveniently ignored. you DO need patience and understanding of the simple fact that you can't pay somebody to elevate them to your societal level - only time can do that. or, as i said, revolution and dictatorship.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6913|IRELAND

Good video. Although the Rasta, obvious stonner, waster guy was not the best choice of presenter..............
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6981|NJ
I think if anything the people going and seeing the country and the dispair(I've never been so I'm just assuming) of this country might help build it up. Out of sight out of mind.
Benzin
Member
+576|6284
@fass: I think the increase in tourism will only help a piece of the country. The rest of the country that has no skills to take advantage of or any way of picking themselves up and having a fighting chance is going to continue to suffer (imo).

(Aside: Anyone think Shahter is the Soviet version of Shifty?)
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5871

O Africa when will you ever learn?
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6981|NJ
I'm pretty sure that South Africa has a really low wage because the employers have to provide Housing and food for them.

So increased tourism= more jobs= more homes and food for unskilled people(it's not really hard to pour a drink). Those who don't want to do anything still won't and they'll live in shit.
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6952

Shahter wrote:

that's the point i was making, which you so conveniently ignored. you DO need patience and understanding of the simple fact that you can't pay somebody to elevate them to your societal level - only time can do that. or, as i said, revolution and dictatorship.
Mail order brides.  White man --> third world farm girls.

Or in the states: PWT + successful Asian/Black/Latino.

Last edited by Ilocano (2010-06-14 12:16:26)

Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5643|London, England

Ilocano wrote:

Shahter wrote:

that's the point i was making, which you so conveniently ignored. you DO need patience and understanding of the simple fact that you can't pay somebody to elevate them to your societal level - only time can do that. or, as i said, revolution and dictatorship.
Mail order brides.  White man --> third world farm girls.
Interesting. When I was on my way to Iraq we had to stop at the air force base in Frankfurt for refueling. The lounge area was covered in magazines offering mail order brides from shahters country. I guess they found a way to get around the need for revolution and dictatorship.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6866|SE London

Shahter wrote:

Uzique wrote:

your own country is an example of how it is possible and how to achieve the iMPOSSIBLE of ending up worse than south africa

thank fuck south africa didn't commit mass genocide, ethnic cleansing and end up instigating a decade-spanning threat of nuclear war

you don't have much to clap about just because you made it to space and have nukes, jesus christ, that's a scary mentality
/sigh. okay, keep listening to your media to get your head pushed deeper and deeper up your ass, dude.
Which bit are you disagreeing with? The genocide, ethnic cleansing or decade-spanning threat of nuclear war?

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