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Mekstizzle wrote:

what the hell is coke supposed to even do to you anyway

haha what, are you kidding?

rofl burnz. hahahaha.

Last edited by Uzique (2010-06-09 13:27:50)

From what I've seen, gives you energy and makes you an asshole.

dunno mek. i've only seen one guy who might've been on it lol, he was sweating like mad, rubbing his nose and looking around a lot.

Its a great high mek, but only last for a short period of time.  When I was high on coke i remember just having the most engaging conversations and just amazing feelings of euphoria and energy.

Uzi wrote:

it's like speed only times ten, minus the length

and the psychological comedowns are a motherbitch to deal with when you know you can easily get more

euphoria, you-the-man syndrome, mega social chattiness and confidence, hyper reactions and senses, everything feels great, everything is great.

woohoo.

was posting when you posted this, lol.  Man I miss going to huge house parties and getting fucking blown out of my mind. It was fun, but we all gotta grow up.

Last edited by SonderKommando (2010-06-09 13:34:27)

SonderKommando wrote:

Its a great high mek, but only last for a short period of time.  When I was high on coke i remember just having the most engaging conversations and just amazing feelings of euphoria and energy.

the sex was great too. thanks, Sonder.

SonderKommando wrote:

Its a great high mek, but only last for a short period of time.  When I was high on coke i remember just having the most engaging conversations and just amazing feelings of euphoria and energy.

yeah man, im not socially awkward and function perfectly fine without coke - but i fucking MISS those conversations

during one crazy session me and about 5 buddies literally sat in a room listening to music and chatting for TWO straight days. 48 hrs. the conversations started to become cyclical and just dynamically, automatically ended up linking and feeding back on themselves subconsciously. we ended up repeating certain conversations a full 24 hours later with no recollection we'd already had them, with JUST as much enthusiasm and fervor. literally everything is fucking amazing. i wish our brains engaged with one another socially like that all the time. proof that there is no god, imo. no god would design a perfect human being and make every day life and every day ennui as suckish as it is in comparison to THAT motherbitch of a high.

god damn.

edit: i've had sex whilst high on coke and it was mind-blowing. hard to contain oneself. i mean from laughing and being happy. of course!

Last edited by Uzique (2010-06-09 13:36:42)

yada yada the scared people will talk of the dangers and the bad long-term effects -  and they certainly exist

but in moderation, i see no reason to really 'warn' of coke's effects. it makes you fucking happy and confident as you'll ever be in your entire life. a nice jolt like that once in every 3-4 months, or even once a year, is a nice kick up the arse to encourage you to start enjoying every day things a little bit more. when you're weak enough to let yourself go and give in to that on-demand, up-yer-nose dose of insane euphoria, that's when you've gotta step back and start teaching yourself how to appreciate the 'finer' more subtle pleasures in life again.

tl;dr: dunno what the effects of coke are mek? go score some

Monkey Spanker wrote:

I would like peoples opinions &  experiences please on how drugs affect them in their life if at all & how can we tackle the perceived threat from drugs.

there is no 'threat' from drugs, really. the threat is perceived from those above, those in power, because on a society-wide level, the wide-spread use of drugs has negative effects on 'society'. what this means, in practical effect, is that it effects the productivity and participation of users in the arenas of power and control that government authorities and those up-top exercise. what im saying is, that drug-use in moderation in itself is a great mental and spiritual thing to do, it's an amazing personal experience. but when you freely allow everyone in a society access to these things, free-reign, the overall productivity and economic subservience of these people slackens and disappears. it's not in the interest for a 'cohesive' and 'functioning' society. although, of course, the power-brokers at the very top are free to use it -- hell, cocaine even aids and boosts their megalomaniac, egocentric existences. this may sound borderline conspiracy-theory but really it is the sole power-motivation behind the 'war on drugs'.

the creator of The Wire made an apt observation here: "What drugs have not destroyed in our communities, the war on drugs has"

counter-efforts to 'wipe out' the drugs trade or ban and illegalize substances has probably caused more damage and harm to people's social wellbeing than the actual recreational drug-use itself has. many countries and nations - we all know them - have a more relaxed attitude to drugs, and their nations are not in a state-of-alert anarchist chaos. their productivity, certainly, may be lower, and the lifestyle may be more lax and easy-going - but what's the harm? apparently, quite a lot of harm in our over-worked, western world. although, again of course, double standards exist. those at the top use all the drugs they denounce, and also profit from the trade that they attempt to 'ban' in the mainstream. plenty of historical fact about the various western governments of the world controlling and channeling the drugs trade - look up the French Connection, for example. drugs have accompanied human history and experience since the very beginning: who is not to say that the visions in the bible werent just a bunch of bored israelites in the desert on mushrooms? spirituality in northern american and central american civilizations has been much more obviously linked to drug-use for spiritual and medicinal purposes, and even 100 years ago the height of victorian society were condoning the open use of laudanum (opium and alcohol) to cure depressions and other mental anxieties. contemporary attitudes change, but the universal presence of drugs alongside our every day does not.

so what is demonized today by law-makers, religions and other established institutions was in the past, or will be in the day of tomorrow, praised. most people have a very orthodox set of values, opinions and ideals and as such are very much sociological products of their environment: they do not condone casual drug use. some personally do not agree with their use because of anecdotal or personal experiences. that's fair enough - but in my opinion, that should be a choice that is at their OWN liberty to take. there's something very intrinsic and subjective about drug use, and i don't personally think it fair, or right, for the 'officials' of our society to step in and tell us what is fit for consumption and what is not. people should be free to make their own choices, regardless of the health risks, and should be allowed to live accordingly. although, of course, i see the 'necessity' for enforced-order and societal coercion.

you can't have it all, i suppose.

Last edited by Uzique (2010-06-09 13:51:42)

I had a conversation on a similar drug to coke and it was awesome, my mate was telling me about a story in his childhood and kept going off on a tangent and going in depth about every character. I loved it and told him to write a novel...


I know his full family tree now I think.

Depressing when I realised the story wadnt that good...

Uzique wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Assumably you aren't referring to stuff like meth or heroin?

opium was the drug-of-the-day 100 years ago. im talking exactly about that. just because modern sensibilities have changed to an 'ew! no thank you' reaction, doesn't mean the drug is intrinsically evil or sinister. 150 years ago we found the turk and the chinese rather amusing for their smoking and inhaling of such drugs, whilst we casually drank back quarts of it ourselves. there are no 'real' defined moral guidelines for drug-use, especially in the western world where they have been profited upon just as much as any other commodity or marketable-craze.

all drugs can destroy lives. im not denying that heroin won't fuck you harder than casual cannibis smoking. but in saying people have the liberty to try what they want, my hypothetical is also assuming that people have the self-responsibility and education to know just what the fuck they're dabbling in. the problem, it seems, is that 'power makers' know that many, if not most, lack the proper education to be safely trusted-- but, in a double effect, it is this lack of education that makes the liberty-deprived average man such an invaluable asset to their conception of a 'just' and 'proper' society.

do you follow?

Yes. I just hadn't heard of many people people who weren't sucked in by heroin addiction once they tried it, though, even people who would ostensibly be intelligent enough to understand what they were sampling.

cocaine has been loaded with social signifiers in my own experience. but then again there is cocaine as a party-drug and cocaine as a social-indicator and they are two very different things in two very different scenarios.

nuk, many people in the day were totally dependent on opiates, true. in fact, it is hard to discern between the high-scribblings and sober calculations of great poets such as samuel taylor coleridge, who was effectively hooked on the stuff. the thing is, back then it didn't have the same grave and ominous associations- society didn't condemn it, so mid-upper class sensibilities took a politer stance on 'habitual' use. in fact, there's an argument (that i follow in a way, slightly) that says all drugs lift us out of the ennui that is modern-life. that may sound grandiose - it's baudelaire's thinking, originally - but it does carry some weight. whether it's escapism or just a relief from the stresses, pressures and anxieties that our modern lifestyle breeds into us, drugs still have a very contemporary use. even ravers blowing off steam apparently-senselessly on weekends perhaps have some tenuous psychological reason for doing so. these big, mass society-wide 'cultures' and 'phases' don't spring out of nowhere, you know.

i have commented before and mention again how amusingly arbitrary i find many people's moral compass to be - personally and on a wider social level. the drugs that are declared 'fine' and fit for every day casual consumption and those that are banned and considered criminal are not objectively standardized in any way, at all. not when considering medical-health risks, psychological change, personal inhibition or anything. there are some glaring hypocrisies (which cause resultant social problems of their own, clearly) in the widespread use and binging of alcohol and smoking. i daresay there would be less violence and social problems in western countries resulting from alcoholic rowdiness and violence if people were high on weed and cocaine as opposed to wired on alcohol and energy-drink mixers. but i digress. my point is that attitudes to drugs shift and we are a very small and insignificant part of the bigger puzzle. at the moment the agendas and mandates of those in power decree that drugs are bad and of no benefit to human well-being (or rather, cynically, no benefit to their continuance of power and of our productivity)- hence they are banned.

and that's that, really. no amount of jaded former-user talk is going to change that.

Last edited by Uzique (2010-06-09 15:16:50)

I think the problem with the harder drugs is that they seem to have a more profound effect on people who get hooked on them compared to people addicted to, say, cigarettes. With a nicotine addiction you want a smoke every hour or whatever, and yeah it gives you health problems but I never hear of people killing others to feed their addiction.